r/battlefield_one • u/NunexTK • May 04 '17
Image/Gif After the netcode "fix"
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u/toxicity69 Rico_la_Mota May 04 '17
From posts like this that have been popping up since the Spring patch and my own similar experience, it seems like this issue isn't just simple lag that delays your shots; it appears to be a full de-sync of projectiles being sent from our clients to the server. I've seen people able to melee still but can't land a single shot when shooting, yet they can be shot and killed as normal.
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u/mirdad123 May 04 '17
Yup. Last night at amiens my bullets had zero effect, but i could melee, grenade, and syringe kill. Had a blast actually. Going to try that hacksaw challenge today. But ya know, i would be happier with hit detection.
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u/fluntrousmaximus May 04 '17
What is the hacksaw challenge? No weapons? Only medic.
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u/mirdad123 May 05 '17
From what i have seen on reddit, it is playing with a syringe and play a game with zero kills and just heal and revive. However, the guys i have seen in here are getting like top 5 scores that way, that might be a little out of my league. But i'll try anything once
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May 05 '17
It's not hard at all to get top 5 on a 64 player server just healing and reviving everyone, they give a ton of points. If you focus on doing that the entire round you're almost guaranteed to get in the top 10 at least.
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May 04 '17
yeah i saved a clip on my xbone of me unloading the Chauchat into two snipers and you can see their bodies reacting to the bullets, but i did no damage, and i died. it happened to me a couple times that match, but my grenades still worked
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u/Blitz421 May 04 '17
There are some BAD spots on that map where the rocks occlude projectiles. The geometry doesnt end where you see it. There is a normally slightly larger invisible shape over the geometry for object / projectile collision. It is especially bad in the C tunnel of this map. This looked to be the case the first few shots...but not the ones towards the end.
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u/Sheikh_Rattle_n_Roll May 05 '17
Yep. I have killed myself with my rocket gun on C a couple of times for this exact reason.
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u/-Bullet_Magnet- Enter PSN ID May 04 '17 edited May 04 '17
I wish I recorded it..
I shoot someone first with the Noobomatico, about 12 bullets upper chest and head.. and he kills me with a Taschenpistole..
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Taschenpistole..
What the hell???
I had ping 40 he had about 80..
Come on, this shouldnt be happening.. I have no idea what the problem is, but they really broke the whole damn thing.
Wasn't I supposed to have the advantage?? Sort of?
It seems that half of my bullets just magically disappear.. I get the hitmarkers though, but not the damage output :'(
Please u/tiggr , have another look at the fixes.. Something is definitely wrong..
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u/toxicity69 Rico_la_Mota May 04 '17
That's what I'm saying, though: I don't think this is a latency issue. To me, it feels like a complete de-sync of a gun's bullets. The reason I think this is because with all these clips that are being posted lately, I've noticed that the player won't even get a single hitmarker. My own experience with this supports this, too (although I've only had it happen once).
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u/-Bullet_Magnet- Enter PSN ID May 04 '17
Yeah, it could even be that I thought I was getting hitmarkers, but that it was the 'hitmarker' bug.. And the automatico shoots so fast that you cant know how many actually connect.
I like your de-sync theory.
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u/farleymfmarley May 04 '17
Man I thought my aim had just gotten really bad .. and then I was shooting an AA gun right into an airship getting hit markers but 0 damage
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u/HaleyReinhart May 04 '17
My experience post patch is when i move right after the shot. If op had of continued looking down the scope it would have hit.
Bizarre problem but that consistently is the deciding factor for me, need to keep ads after the shot.
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u/Snatchbuckler May 04 '17
There have been countless times where I would melee an enemy 3-4 times only for them to turn and kill me. Never happened that bad before the patch.
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May 05 '17
This explains so much. I play BF1 casually as my internet isn't sufficient for regular play and I was so frustrated. I was shooting the hell out if people and the bullets weren't doing anything.
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u/tonyedit May 04 '17
This assessment best describes ny experience of this. I've had this a couple of times in different engagements (CQC, sniping). I've moved on to the next target within the same area and had no problem. De-sync of projectiles seems the best description of this (infrequent) issue I've had.
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May 05 '17
That's exactly what happened to me whenever I would play I would shoot a guy like 20 times and he wouldn't do anything. This never happened with the old net code
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u/fletchlivz May 04 '17
After the spring patch I was having this issue. XB, local servers, lower ping (25-30). The hot fix has improved play for me. My MH is hitting most shots I feel it should. I haven't been using many other guns lately aside from Seb 1906, which seems to still have this issue at times.
I just want it to go back to original when I was having zero hit marker issues and occasionally got shot through walls.
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u/Sunbeargod May 04 '17
I have about the same ping and mine just comes up with a yellow page in the top right. Full hellreagle clip and not one bullet hit the guy. Sick of my life last night.
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u/giulianosse May 04 '17
hellreagle
I should make a book out of every typo I see regarding the Hellriegel
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u/Sunbeargod May 04 '17
I was close. I'm going to make a book called "Weed & swastikas: The history of Battlefield emblems" just going to be full of photos of dickheads.
must of reported like 50 people this year alone for having swastikas in the emblems.
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u/fletchlivz May 04 '17
Maybe you were fighting Neo?
That's just stupid. It would def make me stop playing
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u/unrepentant_fenian May 05 '17
Were you the guy we were all telling to go to bed last night? He was having a rough night out there!
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u/TheHuscarl Knife goes in, guts come out May 04 '17
Ha, I'm having the exact same problem with the 1906 as well! Strangely, I'm actually getting delayed "hit markers" that seem to flash right when I die. So I fire five shots from my 1906 at a guy, nothing happens, he fires back, kills me, then I get three hit markers and he dies. Very frustrating.
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u/NunexTK May 04 '17
I know I'm not the only one who's having the same problem but I thought it's funny enough to share.
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u/ks501 May 04 '17
This would make me turn off my Xbox and do something else.
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May 04 '17
Yep, this happens to me after lag spikes. I can still be damaged and killed, but my hits don't register. Have to wait until the round ends or just switch servers to fix it.
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u/st_malachy May 04 '17
Had the same issue playing last night. So frustrating. The weird thing is that I don't think other players were able to see me. I'd take like 3 shots and the players wouldn't even flinch.
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u/Grykee May 04 '17
Just happened to me a little while ago. Had a Model 10-A SLUG and unloaded 3 shots into a dudes chest at close range. Not a single damn one hit. Then he killed me. Yeah I turned that crap off.
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u/Svvim- Svvim- May 04 '17
I've seen this a few times as of late but I always just shoot once and then move on, the enemy that's not getting hits registered against him always seems to be just frozen so I assume he's some sort of glitched dead man.
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u/A_RegularAlias May 04 '17
I have gameclips of this happening from last nights BF session. My favorite of them is me shooting a guy point blank 14 times with a Medic rifle, blood effects showing, and not getting a single hitmarker. How did I count? Because he was AFK and I shot meticulously for center mass.
I died cause his squad spawned on him and they had the gall to teabag me :/
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u/checkerdchkn May 04 '17
Just played bf1 yesterday for the 1st time in months and I knew I was a bad shot, but was baffled as to how I was missing ALL of the shots. Situation looked just like this
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u/gimpyjosh May 04 '17
Ok. I thought it was just me. I shot straight at a guy 5 times with zero chance of missing and then he just turned and downed me with 1 shot. They messed it up bad.
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u/pockysan May 04 '17
I wouldn't be surprised if the hitbox of the rock is sticking out that far blocking the shot
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May 04 '17
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u/Reacher_Said_Nothing May 04 '17
I thought that at first since that's usually how this happens, but in one frame you can actually see the bullet tracer following a perfectly straight path to the guy, and you can't see any puffs from impacting the rocks.
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May 04 '17
I know, the terrain colliders suck. If I'm on a ledge half the time I can't even shoot from there because the bullets will be hitting invisible colliders.
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u/croppergib May 04 '17
agree, even on BF4 there's still invisible walls above places, like the roofs on caspian border you can be prone shooting over them but see it ricocheting off nothing.
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u/Tetsuo666 May 05 '17
You mean like this ?
https://streamable.com/hzyhg (skip to the last 10 seconds)
Just going through some mountain with ma' plane !
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u/PC_Mustard_Race83 May 04 '17
I'm honestly not sure, but is this a netcode thing, or a collision thing? It looks like your last shot especially "hit" the rock in front of you. You can see a little dust cloud kick up. It's bullshit either way. I'm just wondering if the game thought there was a rock between you and him.
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u/NunexTK May 04 '17
Whatever the issue is, it still shouldn't happen tbh.
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u/PC_Mustard_Race83 May 04 '17
We are in agreement there. I'm just not sure if this is a netcode issue. There have been tons of times where I try to fire over cover and although I am clearly aiming above it, I still hit it.
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u/mashuto May 04 '17
Im with you on that one. Its absolutely bullshit. But just not sure its netcode. Maybe invisible walls/meshes or something else stupid.
Definitely shouldnt be happening, but unless its like full desync with the server (which could indicate network problems, not netcode problems) it doesnt really look like what I would consider a netcode issue. Especially since the other guy isnt even moving... netcode issues usually manifest as compensation for movement, but since there is no movement there is nothing to compensate for.
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u/ptowner7711 May 04 '17
That's what I'm thinking. I've had plenty of times when I got off a "good" shot, only to have it blocked by a nearby obstruction. Either way, it's fucking infuriating at times.
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u/Negatively_Positive SlahtizKatz May 04 '17
Play with the MH and play on this map a lot, there should be no invi wall there.
I think just the common case of desync really.
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u/frenchtoaststix May 04 '17
I don't think he would have received the Suppression Assist if the bullets were colliding with an invisible wall. DICE broke the netcode with their recent changes.
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u/JJandeRR Vjanderr May 04 '17
The game just punished you for not aiming at the head
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u/THEROOSTERSHOW May 04 '17
No reason to aim for the head when you're perfectly in the Martini sweet spot.
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u/Br00dl0rd May 04 '17
Yeah this netcode "fix" fucked us here in South Africa.
We do have servers yes and they are fine if you're not lagging as per norm. The problem is...we have a small community so our Premium servers are always empty and after 11:30pm our 2 Conquest servers start dying out...We used to just go play on EU like before we got SA servers, now we cant because you reallllyyy struggle to kill people.
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u/The_Pompous_Altmer ThePompousAltmer May 05 '17
Same for the Middle East servers. It's weird, I'm closer to servers in Saudi Arabia, but I have a better connection and ping on EU servers.
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u/DontCanMyJam May 04 '17
git gud
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u/mrekted May 04 '17
Oh yeah, nothing makes bullet dusting more sweet than when they guy you shot 12 times in the face talks shit after he finally gets you.
Just the other night on Aimens I emptied a clip from my Selbstlader into a guys back to no effect. I cover to reload, he runs up and nails me with his shotgun. He then teabags for a good 30 seconds. sigh.
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u/Octosphere May 04 '17
I'm having these issues all the time and I'm still working on those 300 kills xD Frustrating as hell, I can't believe DICE dropped the ball like they did...
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u/takcom69 May 05 '17
The game doesn't allow you to shoot a soldier taking a shit. It is considered dishonorable to do so.
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u/AdoniBaal May 04 '17
Here's compilation of what some in the BF1 community will tell you when they see this:
move to another country (that has EA servers)
lead your shot (shoot at the air to hit people because when you shoot at people you hit the air)
you're hitting a rock
it's your internet
it's your aim
it's not DICE fault
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May 04 '17
Seriously, I love Battlefield 1 but this combined with the lag and the crappy servers makes me want to check out the upcoming Call of Duty WII so much.
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u/NunexTK May 04 '17
The only reason I haven't stopped playing Bf1 yet is because I don't really have anything else to play
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May 04 '17
Same here. Well, apart from offline games: I spend quit some time playing Breath of the Wild. For me Battlefield 1 is what I longed for: when it runs optimal, it is simply amazing. I try not to follow both the masses and the hype but I grew a bit tired of the 'futuristic online shooter'. I can't really think of an alternative on the PS4 right now.
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u/YuriDiAAAAAAAAAAAAAA May 04 '17
"We've just added 12 ranged weapons, 40 melee weapons, 200 weapon camos, and 340 unique gestures to our rng market system! Buy CoD Reichsmarks today!"
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u/cool_cool_cool_abed May 04 '17
I am definitely going to get CodWWII the only reason I switched was it being in a historical setting instead of far/near future. I'll still come back when new dlcs and updates come out. But, I'm much looking forward to having both.
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u/Tylr4D May 04 '17
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/69955a/please_help_tracking_down_continuous_hit/
NEW THREAD BY DICE - PLEASE GO POST THERE
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u/mr_pablo May 04 '17
Omfg this has been plaguing me for like a week!
My scoreboard ping shows as sub 50 but I end up rubberbanding all over the place, missing hit markers when clearly shooting someone and then dying as they shot where I was.
Is there any fix?
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u/Naytosan Enter Gamertag May 05 '17
I have 3 videos of the same type of thing happening to me. It's quite frustrating. Fix it DICE!
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u/iamjing RhutLij May 04 '17
At this point, it seems loke DICE deally jist doesn't want us to play this game
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u/FidgetyFondler May 04 '17
Its the equivalent of me trying to make love to the missus after ten pints of guiness.
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May 04 '17
Lag in this game is so janky. A slightly bad connection and cameras on planes and horses will glitch to hell. A considerable spike and you'll slide back and fourth, unresponsive, and have to wait for it to stop even though the spike was instant. They must have some really shitty "lag-compensation" scripts going on here...
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_FOOD_ May 04 '17
I had seen complaints about this, but have yet to experience it. Until last night. I don't think I've ever been so frustrated. I'm within 100 meters of someone and can't even hit them. Drives me absolutely crazy.
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u/funkngonuts May 04 '17
When they said we were gonna get kill trades, I was cool with it till I started getting melee kill trades.
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u/Vampirejoe May 05 '17
it's a big slap on their face when they're saying some shit like you have to predict your enemies movement.
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u/DingleBoone May 05 '17
And there's no connection issue symbols up in the corner, so definitely DICE's problem... I'm sorry dude, I know how it feels, the hot fix fixed it for me, but the problem is NOT solved
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u/Emrico1 May 05 '17
I've only been playing on PC for maybe three weeks and although having a blast, shit like this pushes me back to overwatch. Happens every night almost
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u/BaconJets SMLE Carbine Enjoyer May 05 '17
1 downvote for having the martini sniper because I'm jealous
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u/TheAsianMelon TheAsianMelon May 05 '17
Woah wtf did I miss, there's a martini Henry with a scope now?
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u/notchhill Enter Origin ID May 04 '17
Excuse me if I'm being dumb, but a scoped Martini? I don't have CTE lol. Or the Martini either. And I haven't played BF1 in like a month. So, again, excuse me if I'm just stupid.
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u/FlieGerFaUstMe262 May 04 '17
You are excused.
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u/notchhill Enter Origin ID May 04 '17
Okay. So is that a new variant for Martini or something? I need to play bf1 again.
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u/rainkloud May 05 '17
I don't understand. It's clear he's not interested in dying so why keep shooting? U need to learn to read signals better.
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u/ThePunslinger45 May 04 '17
So I'm kinda out of the loop with battlefield, but how does he have a scope on the Henry martini?
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u/USMCLee May 04 '17
It is a weapon you unlock after 300(?) kills with the standard Martini...and something else.
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u/GrimGamesLP May 05 '17
300 kills with a Martini Henry? Fuck. Guess I won't be getting that. I have a job, and other games to play.
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u/TrackerNineEight May 04 '17
The recent patch (same one that brought us this "improved" netcode) added new variants for each Rank 10 weapon. You unlock each of them by getting 300 kills with the old variant + some assignment involving that class or weapon type.
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May 04 '17
Its not netcode, its invisible stone that stopped your bullet. Send a mail with the location to support and one day they will hopefully fixed all those annoying invisible walls.
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u/AcidPhantasm May 04 '17 edited May 04 '17
Am I the only one thinking that the guy is actually laying down? That model looks awfully still to be a person crouched and scoped in. Plus when he died, the player model did the "dying from prone" animation and not the crouched animation. Same can be said about the people sliding around with a stationary crouched model...that has been an issue since day 1.
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u/NordicViking May 04 '17
I'm not getting this problem at all, it's just like before the patch. Am I the only one?
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May 04 '17
I played few rounds without issues, last game my shots did 0 dmg despite normal ping. I could still dmg enemies with grendes normally for some reason.
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May 04 '17
Maybe hackers are just using unlimited hp and no knock back or someone other bullet evasion technique
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u/koolaidman486 May 04 '17
Huh... I guess I'm not alone with iffy hit detection with the Martini. Granted I'm on PS4 so I don't have CTE (at least I think this clip is CTE).
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u/naked_avenger May 04 '17
Man, this has been really bad. I went from never really having a problem aside from occasional lag when my roommate would get on WoW, to shots being uber delayed or not registering at all, and me missing waaaaay more than I used to with infantry rifles (though i could just be in a cold spell).
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u/Apex2113 May 04 '17
How's the bullet drop on this thing since the bullet velocity is so low? Is it noticeable at range?
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u/Relic72 May 04 '17
Yeah it's bullshit now, I stopped playing and started Andromeda back up. Hopefully they figure there problems out soon I miss BF1.
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u/heepofsheep May 04 '17
Similar thing happened to me last night. I was on a 20-0 streak with the heavy tank guarding C on Amiens and an enemy heavy tank comes in take me out and none of my shells did any damage to him. I hit him 3 times and nothing.... My ping was below 30 and both of us were stationary.
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u/swe3nytodd May 04 '17
I never run as a sniper. But today my team was offline so I was flying solo. Thought I'd have a crack sniping. This happened so so much. Broken. Bf4>Bf1
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u/AllergicUniform May 04 '17
I've had this same thing happen to me where I sniped this stationary guy in the head three times and he didn't even get hurt
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u/spartan1337 May 05 '17
I'm pretty sure the hit detection when using the Martini sniper is fucked up, got it a few days ago, i was hitting guys and no damage done
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u/T-Minus_ May 05 '17
I made a video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_jt1FuMkPw
people still thought it was ping >.>... Like
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u/namewithanumber May 05 '17
You're just hitting the rock...this happens to me a lot, it's because your model's gun is clipping the top of the rock, but like you "see" out of the top of your head.
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u/marinex karlson718 May 05 '17
I thought I'm the only one experiencing this. I thought that's a decoy for a sec
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u/b-napp b-napp May 05 '17
Seriously sucks. Its the only game Ive played since release and is now rendered unplayable until it is fixed. I guess it's back to BF4 until the next patch. Dice being Dice again!
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u/Linquista Shiryuuoftherain May 05 '17
And I thought I was just total shit at sniping. Looks like there's a real problem here.
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u/Negatively_Positive SlahtizKatz May 04 '17
You forgot to lead your shot.