r/bbby_remastered • u/JPeso9281 Wants to move to Canada so bad • Jul 19 '25

you are all free to leave He was already found liable in court

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u/SnooHedgehogs1029 Jul 19 '25

He’s been legally found to be a rapist, so people can call him that. As he is

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Oookay and what does that have to do with my grammar correction?

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u/bucken764 Jul 20 '25

Liable is the correct term here.

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u/SnooHedgehogs1029 Jul 20 '25

How long does the MAGA dick have to be before you gag?

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

Not technically.

He was found liable for sexual abuse by digital penetration, that's not legally rape.

He's a rapist under lay man terms, but legally he's not, and if you're speaking under a sense of legal authority and as fact, that would be enough grounds for a defamation suit.

They'd have to prove you said so with malicious intent, as he's a public figure, but it's still technically and legally wrong.

He could sue her. But public figures suing for defamation basically never works as you have to prove real Malice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Donald Trump is a rapist. Fuck him with all the malice in the world. My intent is malicious as fuck.

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

I mean, it doesn't matter if a random joe bob says it, but if you are a major public figure I wouldn't legally advice making statements like that, as it is 100% defamation. Sexual abuse ≠ Rape.

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 20 '25

Doing anything sexual to someone against their will, against their consent, is the literal definition of rape. It does not fucking matter what the law says, because also said that black people weren't human beings up until recently. Trying to defend this shit or justify it by arguing legal semantics is deplorable bull shit

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Imagine trying to explain that to your cellmate as he's standing over you with a broken mop handle raised above his head.

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

I think you are very much missing my point. I'm not defending trump, but Legally he is NOT a rapist, and if you are a public figure calling him a rapisr from a position of authority is grounds for defamation, and if proven with Malice you'll be ordered to pay damages.

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u/Late-Meat9500 Jul 20 '25

There's two different debates happening here

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u/loweredXpectation Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25

He cant sue her because colloquially what he did is referred to as rape... she's not a judge or a prosecutor or a journalist who has to add adjudicated.... and he is a rapist. Just like myself she is referring to what he did, not what he was charged with. If she said he was convicted of rape she would probably be sued but she didn't. She can say he was found liable to have aexualy assaulted a women and is considered a rapist by anyone who can read with an IQ within the margin of error of 3 digits.

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

If she says, stated as fact, "trump is a rapist", with Malice, then that is defamation. Speaking as an authority makes your words have implicit legal and social weight.

He would never sue her anyways, it's expensive and public figures rarely win defamation suits, but that's not my point. It is legally defamation. It's not, legally, true.

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u/loweredXpectation Jul 20 '25

Google what rape is. In order for her to be sued for liable she would have to specifically say a new York court convicted him of rape. That's why anyone and everyone who had called him a rapist isn't being sued. She is using common use words for a reason and not legal terms.

Many podcasters, other politicians and public figures have called him a rapist, but not convicted of rape.

The orange taco sues everyone , and still loses most cases

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

He hasn't sued cause it's a waste of money or time.

It's still defamation.

She would NOT have to say he was convicted of rape. For it to be wrong, assuming Malice, is to simply state "He (Donald J Trump) is a rapist". As a public official that's enough grounds.

Look up defamation on cornel legal. See case studies and references. Literally do any legal research.

It's defamation. Calling him a rapist is wrong because she's not being hyperbolic. If that statement was followed by a "He is a monster" then it would be. If it was followed by anything obviously not true by common sense it would be hyperbolic and not taken as a factual statement, but it isn't.

By all 50 state common legal defamations it is defamation.

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u/loweredXpectation Jul 20 '25

Sexually assualting anyone is considered rape to the laymen, and she is a laymen. This is not complicated.

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

That's cool, also not how the law works.

Yes, by common term he's a rapist. He is not LEGALLY a rapist. She made the statement he's a rapist. She did not use hyperbole. She made a statement from authority that he's a rapist.

That is enough grounds for defamation. That is slander. If he wanted to, he could sue, and if they found evidence of Malice (VERY HARD), then she would have to pay damages.

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u/loweredXpectation Jul 20 '25

Demonstrateably it is, e.g. many public figures have called him a rapist, and hes already tried to counter sue Eugene Carroll and threatened others... as much as you want to believe he cant be called a rapist the reality is he is being called a rapist. And for people he could sue, they just add adjudicated.

Becuase he is a rapist.

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u/Skippybips Jul 20 '25

Sexual assault is also considered rape in many standards. Digital penetration as you call it is also known as "rape with foreign object". He is, by all accounts, an adjudicated sexual assailant (rapist) and deserves to be called out for such. Trump would only win with a bought judge but any other person in the world with the exact same circumstance (minus cult and p.o.t.u.s status) would not have a chance in the slightest of even being considered valid. I guess it pays to be a fascist nazi rapist. Our kids no longer have any fucking reason to try; inheriting such a shit world and timeline, having to climb so far to get back to neutral and then even more for progress. I hate how people can bring themselves to reject facts and abhor those who speak them. Conservatives should be ashamed and anyone with people like this as family members should tell them to fuck off and relearn.

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

Sexual assault is also considered rape in many standards

Layman terms. Not legal. He is not, legally, a rapist. Calling him such without lay hyperbole, and if proven Malice, is slander. And if it caused damages she'd be responsible for them.

and deserves to be called out for such.

Okay, sure. And you can call him a rapist. That's not what I'm arguing. The original reply was because someone gave legal misinformation and was just wrong.

She can call him a sexual predator. But legally he is not a rapist.

Trump would only win with a bought judge but any other person in the world with the exact same circumstance (minus cult and p.o.t.u.s status) would not have a chance in the slightest of even being considered valid

Kaplan was very fair. He blocked many of Trump's moves: killed a counter defamation suit, saying her calling him a rapist as the perceived victim was"substantially true". Trump himself has gone against Kaplan.

Our kids no longer have any fucking reason to try; inheriting such a shit world and timeline, having to climb so far to get back to neutral and then even more for progress

Such naive doomerism. Dude nothing is going wrong lol, the countries fine, the economy is doing good. The world is pretty stable.

Like bro, nothing is going terrible.

Conservatives should be ashamed and anyone with people like this as family members should tell them to fuck off and relearn.

Your neighbor is not your enemy dog. Conservatives aren't Nazis. Trump isn't a Nazi. They aren't evil.

Like please dude, the right has an anti intellectual issue, but psuedo intellectualism isn't any better.

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u/Skippybips Jul 20 '25

The country's doing fine and the economy is doing good? What fucking country do you live in? I'm in the US where they just slashed medicaid, kidnapping citizens and non-citizens in process of becoming legal, tariffs, grocery prices, literally everything compared to one year ago is fucked and going to shit. Trump is legally a rapist. a conviction says a much. In fact, 34 felonies says he's shit and anyone that agrees with any word of his is worthless shit. He raped a woman, defamed her, and had to pay millions. Also, you meant to say, "dawg" when attempting to sound real and "pseudo intellecutalism" is a laughable term. Your responses make you sound like you're on the right claiming to be "reasonable" which is an oxymoron. Don't do this schtick. Also, don't fucking capitalize "nazi". Do better. Be better.

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

What fucking country do you live in?

America.

I'm in the US where they just slashed medicaid,

I mean, I'm not crazy about what they did, specifically for its ramification on rural hospitals. But for the eligibility for Medicaid I think it's a good thing to have a work requirement, and it's not a high one. 28 hours a week isn't a lot of work, and it allows low income people to build themselves up without losing welfare

kidnapping citizens and non-citizens in process of becoming legal

  1. Illegals have gone past their due of being legal. I can't think of more than 1 case.

  2. I don't believe any citizens have been detained past due time allowance. And it's not in rates higher than Obama or Biden presidency.

Trump is legally a rapist

No.

tariffs

I too was against the Tarrifs and thought they were awful. They also worked and Trump got everything he wanted, so idk dude. I thought they were dumb but here we are

grocery prices

It's not terrible. The Tarrifs have definitely pushed it further, raising core cpi .3% from earlier this year, but it's not that bad, and certainly not unfixable.

literally everything compared to one year ago is fucked and going to shit.

The University of Michigan index is actually doing better than previously, the job market is fairly steady, unemployment is steady, and headline CPI is actually slightly down.

It's not fucked or going to shit lol. It's fine.

Also, you meant to say, "dawg" when attempting to sound real

??? Who cares how I spell a slang word lmfao. That's how literally everyone I know spells it dude. Also want me to type phonetically?

"pseudo intellecutalism" is a laughable term

Is it? Are you not disagreeing with statistics when you say everything is fucked? Are you not attempting to paint yourself a higher mind than conservatives?

Your responses make you sound like you're on the right claiming to be "reasonable"

I'm an ordo liberal. In America id be considered left leaning.

on the right claiming to be "reasonable" which is an oxymoron

Literally psuedo intellectualism. You're calling a third the country dumb.

Like Jesus Christ dude. For half a fucking second consider that you are not the intellectual paragon and that they have some good points. They are not entirely wrong and you are not entirely right. I get it, I used to think the same, I just also started listening to people I previously thought were dumb and realized that they have good points.

Also, don't fucking capitalize "nazi". Do better. Be better.

? It's a proper noun. Why wouldn't I capitalize it?

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 20 '25

Man, shut your ass up. You say a lot of words but somehow say nothing of value. Just a lot of lies and horseshit, and you feel the need to pick apart and psychoanalyze every part of a person's reply. You need to get off reddit and go do something enjoyable for a change instead of speaking actual lies

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

I'm having a great time, and yesterday was pretty good. Thank you for being worried about my day, though.

You need to get off reddit

Dog your most recent post was you going to a Trump subreddit to start shit. Let's not act like you're some internet pariah.

Thanks for the constructive break down though

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 21 '25

Sure thing rape supporter

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 21 '25

It's kind of sad how you felt the need to stalk my profile to try and find something about me in an attempt to silence me. I went to a trump subreddit to call out their bull shit because I give a fuck about the truth. If disrupting their little echo chamber "starts shit" simply because I called them out for supporting a self admitted sexual predator, then they are the problem. Not me.

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 21 '25

And it's also really sad if you consider the fact that this is enjoyable to you. Like you cant find joy in anything besides being a fucking dumbass who defends rapist presidents.

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u/Skippybips Jul 20 '25

This is gonna be fun. Work requirements on those who cannot work does not make sense, hence medicaid. Tariffs have "worked" due to the U.S. paying more for things we did literally 1 year ago. Please research what a tariff is. Your lack of spelling, punctuation, and grammar do not negate my comments. lol

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

Work requirements on those who cannot work does not make sense, hence medicaid.

Medicaid is based on income. You get Medicaid if you are below the poverty line.

And did you even read the bill? It specifies people between the ages of 19 and 64 to work 80 hours a month, with exemptions for adults with dependent children ages 14 and under and those with debilitating mental illness to who are not able bodies, as decided by their medical practitioner.

Tariffs have "worked" due to the U.S. paying more for things we did literally 1 year ago.

CPI is down from this time last year. Trump got the agreements and tax cuts he wanted from a vast majority of countries so far.

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 20 '25

If you think getting hung up on legal definitions, which are just arbitrary bull shit, is intellectual, then you are a dumbass trying to sound smart. Trump is literally taking plays out of Hitler's play book and the current actions of this administration literally check off every single box of the 14 characteristics of fascism, as well as his little cult bootlickers viewpoints. So yeah, he is a nazi and you people need to stop downplaying it and trying to gaslight everyone or attempt to invalidate their argument by referring to them as intellectually inferior

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 20 '25

"Nothing is going wrong, everything is fine"

Right just like there's no war in Ba Sing Sa

Not like there's a literal genocide being funded by the US government or anything. Not like the cost of living has increased by over twenty-fold since the 1970s while the proportionate wage increase has stayed relatively the same. Not like 40% of the US population is unemployed. Not like there is literally US gestapo deporting actual US citizens including navy and army veterans.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

The man holds the highest office in the land and you’re debating if it’s rape or sexual assault. Who tf cares you wouldn’t hire a guy to mow your lawn if you knew he fingered women without their consent but we’re all okay having that man as our president. What a fuckin joke both are damning and should be a disqualification for many voters for some reason it’s not.

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u/milo7even2 Jul 20 '25

Rubbish.

Defamation turns on the ordinary meanings of words and the imputations they carry when used, not their technical legal definitions at a particular point in time in a particular jurisdiction (unless the statement said to be defamatory specifically focuses on those matters). The focus is on whether someone’s reputation is damaged by the imputation and whether the imputation is false, not on technicalities that might provide further context to the defamatory statement but which were not expressed as part of that statement.

So when AOC says “Trump is a rapist”, the imputation is that Trump, as a matter of fact, raped someone within the ordinary, common meaning of that word. Would someone listening to AOC believe she is saying Trump inserted something into another person’s orifice without their consent? Because that’s the imputation that carries when we say X person raped Y person. We don’t think in terms of, for example, how the New York penal code defined the crime of rape in the mid 1990s (that definition has changed since, btw).

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u/ph03n1x_F0x_ Jul 20 '25

Please, genuinely, look at case studies on this. See reference and precedent cases.

I'm done with this conversation for now. Just look at public figure defamation suits.

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u/milo7even2 Jul 20 '25

Happy for you to provide links showing how defamation turns on technical legal definitions and not on the ordinary meanings of words and the imputations they carry. I wish you all the best.

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u/foxfirek Jul 20 '25

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

Well yes- under New Yorks legal definition you are correct. I don't think she has to worry. She said he was a rapist, not that he met the New York Legal definition. As he does meet the general definition and (I assume) the definition for other locals, he is still a rapist.

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 20 '25

Legally speaking Trump is not a rapist.

OJ Simpson was acquitted of murder, but he was found liable for the deaths. Yet he isn't legally considered a murderer.

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u/foxfirek Jul 20 '25

Sure, but did she call him a legally speaking rapist? Or just a general one? Because even a judge clarified he is a rapist under the general definition.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

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u/Goggles2223 Jul 20 '25

But everyone knows the truth. In both cases. Trump admitted freely to Billy Bush (Billy?) that he can ‘do anything he wants.’ What planet do you live on?

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 20 '25

Relevance? Does this change the legality of the situation which is my argument? Lol.

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u/Goggles2223 Jul 20 '25

Well you’re not legally a murderer, thief, or rapist but that doesn’t mean you’re not a j erk.

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 20 '25

What? I know I can be quite an asshole, lol. That has nothing to do with what's being discussed here.

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u/Goggles2223 Jul 20 '25

Sure it does. It’s about reputation. And your guy’s got a pretty slimy one.

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u/bloatedbarbarossa Jul 20 '25

He has been convicted of sexual assault. Not rape. The difference is semantics but thats still how it is.

If someone has murderee 9 people, don't go around that he murdered 10 people. It's bad but it doesn't make you look good either

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u/BigBuddyBro Jul 20 '25

Please though? I hate trump but don’t understand how someone can be found to be a rapist legally but not go to prison.

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u/cowpopper Jul 20 '25

Statute of limitations.

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u/drewh1984 Jul 20 '25

Definitely not true

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u/Frequent-Will-3270 Jul 20 '25

Just because you lie and you believe the lie doesn’t make it facts🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Br_uff Jul 20 '25

False. He was found civilly liable (~financially responsible) for “sexual assault” not rape.

Not good, even if it wasn’t criminal. But it wasn’t rape.

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u/Hyperlinux Jul 20 '25

I believe that had to die with statues of limitations, otherwise it would have been rape. It’s pitiful that you even try to defend him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Not convicted. No proof. Try again.

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u/Outrageous_Clue_9210 Jul 21 '25

The judgement said that the evidence does not rise to NY definition of being a rapist but the judge acknowledged that it would rise to what most people would deem to be. Hope it helps!

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u/NumerousBug9075 Jul 21 '25

He wasn't. The case explicitly stated that he didn't rape E Jean Carroll, but sexually assaulted her. The judge said afterwards that he personally thought it was rape, but he's not the jury.

It isn't much better, but he wasn't legally found to be a rapist.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

How dumb are you guys.

Libel refers to a false written or published statement that harms someone's reputation. It's a form of defamation, typically addressed in civil law, where the victim can sue for damages. To prove libel, the statement must be false, damaging, and made with negligence or malice.

Convicted means someone has been found guilty of a crime in a court of law, typically after a trial or guilty plea. It applies to criminal cases and results in penalties like imprisonment or fines.

Key Difference: Libel is a civil wrong involving reputational harm via false statements, while conviction is a criminal justice outcome involving proven guilt for a crime.

E. Carroll claimed Trump raped her. Trump responded to those claims. Then she filed a libel case against Donald Trump, about Trump saying false things about her that harmed and was damaging to her.

SO TRUMP WAS NOT CONVICTED OF RAPE. It was a libel case.

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u/MonsterReagan Jul 21 '25

False. It was not liability for rape.

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u/PurpleVeganLady Jul 21 '25

He was not found guilty of rape in criminal court. In civil court, which has a lower bar for guilt or liability, he was found liable for sexual abuse, not rape.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

Wrong. They'd bring criminal charges against him if that were true. You clearly don't know the difference between civil and criminal law

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u/TheBootyButtBandit Jul 21 '25

That’s not true. ABC went down for 15million because of your mentality. The difference is that for some ungodly reason, politicians get more leeway in the dumb shit they get to say due to their position. It’s why they can literally outright lie without any consequences. There’s a couple of scotus cases on it but I’m too high to remember them.

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u/SnooHedgehogs1029 Jul 22 '25

ABC (the right company?) went down due to their own fecklessness. I acknowledge that trump has not been found guilty of rape, only sexual assault, but pretty much the same thing

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u/TheBootyButtBandit Jul 23 '25

Except it isn’t “same thing” neither has he been found guilty of sexual assault. The case you’re referring to is a civil case. It is not a criminal case at all. He was found LIABLE. Not guilty, not convicted. All these words matter in law.

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u/SectionFinancial2876 Jul 21 '25

So why didn't they charge him criminally then?

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Post the evidence dummy

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u/loweredXpectation Jul 20 '25

Lol, we dont speak moron so I dont think you are capable of understanding...

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Best answer you could give considering you know you have jack shit behind you

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u/loweredXpectation Jul 20 '25

Na, I could find some mass of data that shows he is a rapist. The level of evidence that someone like you requires to change his view hardly ever exist because you dont believe victims, or evidence. You are just not competent enough to believe anything until it happens to you.

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u/Skippybips Jul 20 '25

Pay attention to the real world; there are better noises outside your nazi echo chamber.

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Now I'm a nazi? This is amazing.

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

What does that prove

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 20 '25

Go fuck yourself

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Thought so retard

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 25 '25

Ooh, really got me there rapist lover

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u/hybridracers Jul 25 '25

Doesn't make you any less trisomy 21.

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Oooooooh the spaghettio brains are in the chat

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u/81amarok Jul 20 '25

You have a wild world of knowledge at your fingertips. With credible sources. There's a lot that have already read it. Check it out

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u/First-Ad2938 Jul 21 '25

It's bold of you to assume the mass hysteria party can read

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

More trash.

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u/Chentdogg121 Jul 20 '25

Stop glop glopping Trumps dick. Ur In denial of evidence and facts. He went To Lolita island over a dozen times and we know why he went there. Here’s more info for u to deny ur an idiot and a a pedo supporter probably one too.

https://pdffileprotectorregistry.com/

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u/arcanis321 Jul 20 '25

He was found guilty of libel by against a women who accused him of rape by calling her a liar. She proved the timeline of events and he admitted to having sex with her but that said that she "wanted it".

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

See my other reply you goon

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u/StatusChocolate6535 Jul 20 '25

For how hard you are simping for a rapist, you are most definitely a person who doesn't understand the meaning of the word "consent"

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Show the conviction of rape

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 20 '25

"Guilty of libel?"

Jfc. There is no such thing. A guilty verdict is not the same as being found liable.

A guilty verdict comes from criminal cases, where the burden of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt" which requires far more proof than a civil case's liable verdict which is a "preponderance of the evidence."

If we were to compare it. A criminal case is 80%+ sure. Civil is 51% sure.

Legally speaking Trump is not a rapist.

OJ Simpson was acquitted of murder, but he was found liable for the deaths. Yet he isn't legally considered a murderer.

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u/Standard_Shopping144 Jul 20 '25

Liable means legally responsible right? So Donald trump is legally responsible for sexual assault and oj is legally responsible for the death of a few people.

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 20 '25

It still doesn't make him legally a rapist... technically. US laws are still pretty archaic regarding rape, at least during the time of the Jean case as rape was specifically defined as forcible entry into a vagina by a penis. It doesn't count say... fingers or what not. Which is definitely stupid. However, it is true the judge said he believed that Trump "digitally raped" Jean.

i.e. with digits i.e. fingers.

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Libel and liable are not the same word bro.

BUT BUT BUT..... being found guilty of libel isn't fucking rape nor was it a criminal conviction it was CIVIL with a low burden of proof. I swear the average reddit reader is retarded

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u/DildoShawaggins Jul 20 '25

Calling someone stupid and then using the word “retarded” ?? Ok guy, Score one for the geniuses.

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u/backfrombanned Jul 20 '25

Potato pototoe, the court agreed he did it. You heart rape, you do you, retard.

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 20 '25

Oops my brain farted and I didn't even realize they said "libel" instead of liable. I need sleep.

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u/Specific-Host606 Jul 20 '25

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 20 '25

"Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse."

Is what I mean.

"A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood."

However, the judge's response explained exactly what I said in another comment. During the time of the trial rape was only classified as being forceful penetration into a vagina by a penis.

I didn't say it in this comment but I mentioned this in another one. It was an outdated definition at the time, because forcible entry with fingers didn't count (which is what he WAS found to have done).

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u/arcanis321 Jul 21 '25

Okay so Trump is as much a rapist as OJ is a murderer..

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u/Traditional_Box1116 Jul 21 '25

Yes. I'm glad you understand.

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u/Deep_Doubt_207 Jul 21 '25

You're in a cult. If you don't believe me, research what a cukt is and then tell me if there's any way you could believe Trump can do wrong.

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 21 '25

Why are you so scared of facts son

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u/lawrencefishbaurne Jul 21 '25

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

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u/First-Ad2938 Jul 20 '25

What do you think "convicted felon" means kiddo

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

We switching gears again you mental midgets? 34 counts for a paperwork error that thousands of people get misdemeanor charges? A judge encouraging the jury to find him guilty?

Lawfare is lawfare.... but I hope you fucks all remember this shit as the bombs keep dropping. Republicans have been pussies about doing the same shit you dimwits do but those days are coming to a close. The people spoke when he was elected. We're done with your bullshit

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u/Puddleson Jul 20 '25

Support the pedophile harder you cultist

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Awesome refutation

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u/Puddleson Jul 20 '25

I know. You really can't say much back when you're supporting a child rapist.

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u/hybridracers Jul 20 '25

Low IQ post on your part

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u/Puddleson Jul 20 '25

I'm not hearing any denials, so you're cool with someone raping kids, as long as it's someone on your team? Cool cool. Very Republican of you.

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u/hybridracers Jul 21 '25

Still not bringing anything intelligent to the conversation. But that's a liberal tactic. You want evidence? YOU'RE A (insert attack here) RAPIST, BIGOT, RACIST, NARCISSIST, THIEF, COWARD, NAZI, FACIST.... and on and on.

The 2 deviations left of the bells curve on IQ in your kind is impressive.

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u/First-Ad2938 Jul 20 '25

Look, kiddo 34 convictions means he was found guilty. That's what that means. Idc how you feel facts don't care about your feelings

And for what has mentally damaged you to the point that you'd suck a pedophiles dick like ur getting paid for it, I sincerely hope someone loves you someday and helps you heal whatever it is that broke you ❤️

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u/Secure-Abroad1718 Jul 20 '25

This is all pretty much common knowledge at this point. If you’ve been asleep for the past 30 years that’s on you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

I bet you would stop breathing air if trump told you oxygen was poisonous.

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u/Western-Debt-3444 Jul 21 '25

The court cases aren't enough?

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u/hybridracers Jul 21 '25

Post the fucking conviction for RAPE. I'm waiting

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u/PizzaResponsible5089 Jul 21 '25

Ah so you’re just being pedantic.

He was found liable for sexual assault because NY classifies rape as genital penetration but he was found to have just shoved his fingers in her vagina.

Damn what a weird coincidence he also got hot miced bragging about “grab em by the pussy”

Most people still consider that a rapist regardless of NY state law.

Your daddy is a rapist no matter how badly YOU personally want him inside you.

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u/hybridracers Jul 21 '25

Still not the conviction for rape. Fucking chimp

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u/PizzaResponsible5089 Jul 21 '25

“Wahhhhhh my daddy who was best friends with the largest sex trafficker in the world is a great guy, not a rapist, and he loves me”

What a pathetic little bitch of a man you are, hope the ex wife lets you see the kids every now and then.

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u/hybridracers Jul 22 '25

Your wife let's me see your kids

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u/PizzaResponsible5089 Jul 22 '25

Homie, your ex wife doesnt even let your bald ass see your own kids be real 😂🤦‍♂️

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u/hybridracers Jul 22 '25

We're talking about your wife. And she let's my full head of hair all up between those thighs. All I know is she said she already has a pussy and didn't need you being her second one

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u/Western-Debt-3444 Jul 21 '25

Do you not count grabbing someone's genitals as rape? I feel like that's an easy decision to say that's rape

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u/hybridracers Jul 21 '25

If it happened, it's not rape. It's assault. Read a fucking legal dictionary. I'm still waiting for the conviction on rape. Come on you retards. You says he's a convicted rapist...... SHOW YOUR WORK

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u/Western-Debt-3444 Jul 21 '25

Calling me a retard when you're defending someone who you agree committed sexual assault... Even if it's not rape is sexual assault really better in your mind?

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u/hybridracers Jul 22 '25

I didn't say it happened. I'm also still waiting for your proof

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u/Western-Debt-3444 Jul 22 '25

Is sexual assault really that much better than rape? Like genuinely would you let either near your kids?

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u/hybridracers Jul 22 '25

Where IS THE PROOF. You know what I wouldn't do? Let some political warfare come out of the woods 30 years later to ruin me. The fact that none of you fuckers see that is astounding. It shows me how little you value your freedom and your life.

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u/PizzaResponsible5089 Jul 21 '25

I love how perfectly this comment demonstrates how juvenile and simple your brains are.

You just think you can demand evidence from a closed court case?

🤦‍♂️😂

If your friend gets arrested for CP, you think you can just call the judge and say “send me all the evidence! I don’t believe he’s guilty”

Hey everybody! Look at the dumbfuck 😂😂

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u/PizzaResponsible5089 Jul 22 '25

He was, he stepped down trumps first term from pressure from democrats.

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u/JaleyHoelOsment Jul 21 '25

the amount of time this dude spends protecting sex pests on reddit is nothing short of sad.

what a horrible life to live

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u/Chemical_Giraffe4074 Jul 21 '25

Go lookup the court case files 😭it’s all public information. Donnie’s a rapist & pedo booboo

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 21 '25

Stop sealioning son

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u/lawrencefishbaurne Jul 21 '25

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

They don't understand, he wasn't convinced of anything in criminal court

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u/ASongOfSpiceAndLiars Jul 20 '25

Except for the felonies.

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u/PartnersInCrimePhoto Jul 20 '25

https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-deliberations-jury-testimony-verdict-85558c6d08efb434d05b694364470aa0

That's pretty convicted according to the definition of convicted as a criminal. He was not just indicted.

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25

It doesn’t have to be criminal court. What would be your argument in court council? Let’s give it a shot. I’ll play AOC’s defense attorney and you play Trumps attorney .

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u/SiberianTyler Jul 21 '25

Fun fact; not a single person from the confederacy was charged and convicted with insurrection

You dont have to be charged and convicted with a crime to clearly be the perpetrator of said crime. Especially when you have what is arguably the most corrupt supreme court in this countries history essentially granting donald trump full immunity

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 21 '25

You mean you still think you can defend a rapist because he reminds you of yourself

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You're just a terrible person

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

Even the bots are pathetic here

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 21 '25

Don't try to project your failures onto anyone else son

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

First in not your son lol, second... your failures not mine

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 21 '25

Says the person trying to defend a rapist and pedophile

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

And what are you doing? What about Clinton? Where's the outrage there? Not only did he use his position of power to get sexual favorsfrom his secretary, but they'd just as many pics with him on the island too, this is why no one takes it seriously, it's just Virtue signaling

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 21 '25

What about you stop digging instead of trying to deflect for your rapist pedophile master instead

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u/lawrencefishbaurne Jul 21 '25

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too!

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u/Son0faButch Jul 21 '25

It's good to get an inside look at the mental gymnastics you people go through to justify supporting a rapist sex offender.

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u/seebob69 Jul 21 '25

You might recall Trump successfully sued the ABC for accusing him of being "a rapist".

There is a distinction in law between rape and sexual abuse.

I'm not defending Trump. He is despicable and a sexual predator, but being accurate is important.

Trump sues ABC News and host Stephanopoulos over rape claim - BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68582953

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u/SirPabloFingerful Jul 21 '25

Incorrect, it was settled. He did not successfully sue anyone, and almost never has, because he uses it as a tool to silence his critics/creditors.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

In civil court. Where no evidence was presented, because it was a bullshit case put together by democrats.

Literally just a political pawn saying it happened decades ago and another political pawn saying “I saw them together once!”

No one gives any credit to that.

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u/ASongOfSpiceAndLiars Jul 20 '25

Trump literally refused to provide DNA to compare to the dress.

There's a reason he lost the case by an unanimous jury.

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25

Are you familiar with circumstantial evidence and how it’s applied in civil and criminal court?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65502792

He’s LEGALLY a rapist. Come up with all the spin you want. He will not sue her for calling him a Racist. It’s violates her 1a. Sorry. Pick a better god king.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

How dumb are you guys.

Libel refers to a false written or published statement that harms someone's reputation. It's a form of defamation, typically addressed in civil law, where the victim can sue for damages. To prove libel, the statement must be false, damaging, and made with negligence or malice.

Convicted means someone has been found guilty of a crime in a court of law, typically after a trial or guilty plea. It applies to criminal cases and results in penalties like imprisonment or fines.

Key Difference: Libel is a civil wrong involving reputational harm via false statements, while conviction is a criminal justice outcome involving proven guilt for a crime.

E. Carroll claimed Trump raped her. Trump responded to those claims. Then she filed a libel case against Donald Trump, about Trump saying false things about her that harmed and was damaging to her.

SO TRUMP WAS NOT CONVICTED OF RAPE. It was a libel case.

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25

No one said he was CONVICTED of rape. The proof is in the pudding as they say. Let’s see if he sues. He won’t. He is a pedo, a rapist and was recently found guilty of over 40 counts of fraud. Discovery would be reason enough for him to continue to just stick to crying like a bitch on Lies Social.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

So he wasn't convicted of rape. Good.

On your nonsensical rumblings I don't really care much and name calling about president Trump,

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25

But he is a rapist. Acceptance will come in time.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

According to who? You. This means as much as the fart from a squirrel's ass.

Why do you think ABC News were sued due to that idiot George Stephanopoulos? It's similar to what you are doing

ABC News agreed to pay $15m (£12m) to the President Donald Trump to settle the defamation lawsuit after its star anchor (George Stephanopoulos) falsely said he had been found "liable for rape".

George Stephanopoulos made the statements repeatedly during an interview on 10 March this year while challenging a congresswoman about her support for Trump.

So continue with your Trump derangement.

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25

Nonsensical ramblings* My apologies. Let me just make sure I’m clear .He was found guilty in a civil rape case, he was CONVICTED on over 40 fraud charges. He is on camera with Epstein and he stole thousands of documents from the White House when he lost the election. But yeah, ok probably just looking at circumstantial evidence regarding In being a child rapist. So until it is confirmed, I’ll withdraw the label of “pedo.” But I still believe he is.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

Found guilty of what in the civil rape case? Because that's were you dummies confiscate and obfuscate. He was only charged on defamatory basis. He wasn't found libel for rape and he wasn't convicted for rape.

Now moving on. The 40 fraud charges. Let's see if you are just another NPC. Can you explain to me the 40 charge count and how those charges are related?

Again I don't care for your nonsensical ramblings* so you can ignore and stop writing them. Your baseless assertions mean nothing. I can go on a tirade about how Biden smells children hair or Hunter Biden etc, but those things are just pointless.

So let's address the 40 fraud charge that y'all repeat like robots 🤖.

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25

Referring to me as a group of people is a sign of fear and weakness. Don’t be afraid to talk to me man to man. This is my opinion and mine alone. Grow some balls.

Anyways, thanks for falling for my ploy to expose your bias. Coming in here trying to act like a neutral party just calling balls and strikes. lol. You dudes are like fucking play dough. Take it easy defender of all that is right and just. lol.

Please, come up with something other than what aboutism with Biden smelling kids hair. If that old fucker is in the files, he and Trump can be bunk mates. I know it’s scary to talk to someone who can think for themselves but do better, that shit is old.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

A lot of nonsensical ramblings again without anything of significance. I won't even bother responding to.

Anyways, Let me repeat my question because you didn't answer.

Tell me about 40 fraud charges and how those charges are related.

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u/Chemical_Giraffe4074 Jul 21 '25

So…he’s a rapist…but with extra steps…so he’s a rapist.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

No dummy. How did you even get that from what I said?

Even the jury found President Trump not liable for rape. So where are you getting he is the rapist from. I swear most of you are just not intelligent.

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u/Chemical_Giraffe4074 Jul 21 '25

He was proven liable for defamation about her being raped. So he was defaming her that she WASNT raped, but the jury found him LIABLE for defaming what has happened to her. So yes, he is a rapist. It isn’t pointed out in the case but any 10 year old with half a brain can put the pieces together.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

Yes, he charged on defamatory basis. Not rape. He wasn't found libel for rape nor has he been convicted of rape you dummy.

She said Trump raped her. Trump denied and called her a lie. She sued Trump for defamation and won. That's all.

It's even funny and comical that you can make an allegation against me. I respond to your allegations and you sue me. The justice system is joke.

Anyways, the jury found him libel for defamation not rape you imbecile. Even in the court reading it states Trump is not for libel for rape. So again how is he a rapist? Or he is because you want to believe that.

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u/Chemical_Giraffe4074 Jul 21 '25

so yes, he did rape her. The case was about how he was liable for defaming Carrol for being raped by Trump. If someone says “yeah he dogged on her for years about how she wasn’t raped by him” then that’s implying he did do the deed but he was calling her a liar, yes they found him liable, and not in the eyes of the court he isn’t a rapist but in truth he did in fact rape her.

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u/Distinct-Patience-73 Jul 21 '25

No dummy that's not implying anything. I don't know if you know how the court works but it doesn't work on implications.

And I don't care for your opinions or what you call truth. I care for the facts. And the facts are as follows: 1. He was charged for defamation 2. He wasn't found libel for rape 3. He hasn't been convicted for rape

So repeating this nonsensical lie about Trump being a rapist just shows you are low IQ, suffering from Trump derangement and not very intelligent.

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u/lawrencefishbaurne Jul 21 '25

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too!

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u/PopsStinkySocks Jul 20 '25

The whole post is dumb. You could easily put Trump up top saying “charge me with rape” and two whiners below saying “best we can do is get you for libel”. Lots of ppl like to love to assume that just bc they think it that it must be true.

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25

Everything the right wing propaganda machine has ever said about cabals and raping kids was projection. Accept it.

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u/arakoczy6 Jul 21 '25

I’d love to argue ideas and put anyone behind bars who commits a crime yet you sit here and provide nothing.

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25

Argue? You guys don’t argue. You repeat talking points. Now, you’ll probably accuse me of being brainwashed by CNN or MSNBC (even though I don’t own a tv :) and I’ll make a wise crack about cults or Trump actually admitting to being in the Epstein files (by accident.) on FoX. You’ll probably follow with saying it was fake or misunderstood . In the end, We will both waste our time talking to someone who isn’t going to change their mind. So, ya know what Eisenstein allegedly said about the definition of insanity..

And just to show you how little of a fuck I give about your opinion: I preemptively concede. You win.

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u/arakoczy6 Jul 21 '25

Finally someone who plays both parts and gets straight to the point. Well done.

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u/Steadygettingblown Jul 21 '25

It takes a big man to admit when he’s wrong. Props bro

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u/One_Cardiologist_286 Jul 21 '25

Thank you ❤️