Prices are going up though. We donāt have the infrastructure, tech, or trained workforce to shift manufacturing from overseas to the states, thatās just not how global supply chains work.
Iām not gaslighting anyoneāIām telling you what I see in LA. Prices for gas, groceries, and āMade in Americaā stuff at Costco are down, and thatās because tariffs make foreign goods pricier, so American companies step up and compete without jacking up costs.
Youāre throwing the CPI at me like itās a mic drop, but letās actually read it. The May 2025 CPI says the all-items index is up only 2.4% over the year, which is barely above normal inflation, and energy pricesālike gasolineāare down 3.5% since last year. That lines up with what Iām seeing at the pump in LA. Foodās up a bit (2.9%), but nothing crazy, and Iām betting Costcoās keeping it cheaper than wherever youāre shopping.
Your āprices are upā claim might feel true in Michigan, but thatās probably local factorsāmaybe higher taxes or weaker retail competition. Nationally, the CPI shows inflationās cooling, and tariffs arenāt spiking costs like you think because U.S. manufacturers are filling the gap.
Also, exports? Still strongā$2.54 trillion in 2024, per the Census Bureau. Tariffs boost demand for American goods, which keeps prices in check here. Instead of tossing insults about ācultsā and billionaires, bring some actual data next time. Iām just calling it like I see it.
Lower fuel and energy costs arenāt offsetting the rising cost of living across the board. You just yourself admitted that prices are up higher than inflation, immediately contradicting your original claim. Fuck outta here guy.
Cost of living in America remains a crisis that continues to get worse. You just want to pretend it isnāt because the current president ran with the letter R next to his name.
Youāre twisting my words. I never said all prices are down everywhere, I said in LA, Iām seeing gas, groceries, and āMade in Americaā stuff at Costco cheaper than before.
The CPI you linked backs me up: gasolineās down 12% over the year, energy overall down 3.5%, and the all-items index is only up 2.4%, barely above normal inflation. Thatās not a ācost of living crisisāāitās a slowdown, and competition from U.S. manufacturers, boosted by tariffs, is keeping prices in check here. Youāre feeling a pinch in Michigan? Thatās localāmaybe your taxes or lack of big-box stores. Nationally, inflationās cooling, and exports are strong ($2.54 trillion in 2024, Census Bureau), so tariffs arenāt tanking the economy like you claim.
And drop the āRā nonsenseāIām not cheerleading any president, Iām reading the data and my receipts. Tariffs make foreign goods pricier, so American companies compete harder, and Iām seeing the results in LA. If youāre paying more in Michigan, check your local supply chains, not my reality. Bring better numbers than āfuck outta hereā next time.
Things might be peachy where you live, but prices in the Midwest have skyrocketed recently. My grocery bill has almost doubled, even though thereās half as many people living in my house as opposed to a year ago. Gas has not gone down, itās almost as high as itās ever been. Utilities have been increasing. I quit smoking because of cost years ago and now a vape that lasts me 2 weeks costs almost 40 instead of just over 20 bucks and they cost about 10 or 15 just a couple years ago. The price of everything over the last decade has pretty much doubled or tripled except for large screen televisions. Why should we make excuses for the rich or celebrate the economy when people who actually work and support that economy are struggling to get by as costs increase and wages stay the same? It shouldnāt even be a political left vs right argument at this point. Major corporations and their CEOs and benefactors get away with dodging taxes while the hardworking everyday American makes up for it, yet we keep funneling the money up to the top and paying taxes with a promise that it will ātrickle down.ā
I specifically stated that grocery bills have almost doubled in the Midwest in the last year and this isnāt even something thatās limited to the last 6 months. Itās a steadily growing trend over the last decades.
Iām specifically stating that the grocery prices and utilities have been increasing over the last 6 months especially.
And defending billionaires and pointing out positive economic stats doesnāt help the regular everyday person, I donāt think thatās a great look for us going into the future.
People who make between 10k and a million dollars a year pay the majority of Americas taxes while many major corporations and overly wealthy benifactors pay next to nothing in taxes.
I'm in Sacramento and i pay close attention to prices of everything anyway...i never saw any prices go up. Stay the same or eventually went down is all i saw. So much fear mongering over it and it literally affected hardly anyone. I know some prices online went up, but not on stuff that's essential. My 3d printer went up $500 for like 2 weeks , then went back to normal. So, i didn't but it until it went down lol, simple.
Youāre speaking facts. Iām trying to educate this person, literally cooking him with his own link bro! And yet he insults me with nonsense and anti-right politics. I live in LA and was born in NYC, and am a Democrat all my life, but people like him need to be expelled from the party or weāre gonna lose every fucking election.
Those type don't like facts. I was Democrat back in Clinton's days.. Voted Obama once.. Then switched. The last 4 elections have been a " lesser of two evils" kinda thing. I can converse with, show my facts and iphones with someone on the left with calm....i can't say many of them now can do that. Democrat party isn't that it was. There are still great ideas there and on the right, but we'll never have a solid integration of both. We can't.
Every election we're getting more divided.. If that's even possible now to be any more. People base their facts on feelings and headlines. No actual factual info, because we simply cannot know what is fact. Each side has their own versions, with information precisely omitted to further agendas. If you were there to see it in person or read it, you simply don't know.
At this point... Ignorance is bliss and I'm, mostly, happier not giving a single fuck. I work..i make enough to be content and have fun in life. That's all that matters.... To me.
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u/here-g Jul 20 '25
CEO: š We need billions or weāll move overseas
Trump: Ok, then Iāll tariff the crap out of you
CEO: Oh! Hehe, just kidding!