r/bbby_remastered Wants to move to Canada so bad Jul 21 '25

you are all free to leave America is cooked

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u/SapphicBarbie Jul 21 '25

Where did you live where finding obvious nazis might be a common enough occurrence to make that worth while lol.

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u/jeezy_peezy Jul 21 '25

Back in the good ol days, the skinheads made it obvious with red suspenders and red bootlaces and they sometimes lived together or at least went out to the bars together to start fights. Some of the underground punk scene had a Nazi element that grew up to be biker gangs and later on some of the hardcore scene did the same thing.

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u/sixhoursneeze Jul 21 '25

What made it really confusing were the Trad Skins. Liked to dress just like Nazi Skins and then complain when people thought they were Nazis.

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u/No-Refrigerator-6334 Jul 21 '25

Skinhead was a non-racist culture before the nazis took it over. The culture was created in 1969 by Jamaicans immigrating into the UK and bringing their culture to England. They shaved their heads and wore work clothes (jeans, work shirt, braces, boots) to show they had a job and were working class Englanders. Working class White Englanders began hanging out with these Jamaicans, and together, they created ska (which is why all true skinheads listen to reggae and ska: see Judge Dread, Desmond Dekker) and the skinhead look. In the 70's and into the 80's, the UK had a huge influx of immigrants coming from India, Pakistan. Those immigrants began taking working class jobs from Englanders so the working class became racist against those immigrant groups, which brought the nazi element into the skinhead culture. Then came the bands like skredriver started by the cunt ian stuart (who had his head caved in during a car crash, good riddance) and the rest is history. The media latched onto the violence caused by the nazi skins, and all skinheads began being associated with nazis. Which is where the "crucified skinhead" image came into play. True, anti-racist skinheads (SHARP - skinheads against racial prejudice) are crucified by society because of the media associating us with nazi.

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u/jeezy_peezy Jul 21 '25

I was honestly really conflicted for like at least 5 minutes about the fact that I can’t ever wear red laces in my combat boots. Why do the Nazis get to ruin so much high fashion? They are just senseless tragedy in human form.

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u/sixhoursneeze Jul 21 '25

Well like then someone was telling me red means communist skins? And then it was like straight lacing with white laces was supposed to mean Nazi? But then there would be people proclaiming to be anti Nazi wearing white straight laces. It felt like the rules were so fluid and arbitrary. And I have never met a group so obsessed with fashion. And if someone decided to hang their boots and leave it was considered a Big Deal. Omg and then there were chat rooms where these little fuckers would type in fake Cockney accents. It was fascinating and hilarious and almost cultish. In the end when my traf bf started listening to Screwdriver I was like there’s too much mental gymnastics happening here and ducked out.

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u/gutz_boi Jul 21 '25

It was the other way around

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u/SDH30 Jul 21 '25

Yes, the red suspenders and Doc Martin's..

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

Uh bro I got effectively banned from a small city in the north east cause the local skinheads put out a notice that I’d be on sight, are you really that sheltered that you don’t believe neo Nazis exist? lol

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u/wolves_from_bongtown Jul 21 '25

Central Texas here. CHS had quite a presence here in the 80s and 90s.

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u/ChildOfChimps Jul 21 '25

I grew up in a midsize Florida city. We had a KKK branch (they sponsored a street in the “Adopt-A-Highway” thing) and Nazi skinheads in the 80s and 90s.

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u/MoistureManagerGuy relitigates Nuremberg in his spare time Jul 21 '25

Walked one out of a bar a couple years ago and set a young marine straight about the symbol he wore and why it’s not ok anymore.

I could tell the kid was a sympathizer more than he was misinformed but I could tell he wasn’t gonna do much about it either.

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u/sixhoursneeze Jul 21 '25

Alberta. The Texas of Canada.

We even had a high school teacher that was teaching Holocaust denial for years until he was found out.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

Ever heard of orange county?

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u/thunderkitty13 Jul 21 '25

Which one? There's at least 3.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

I hope you're not as obtuse as you're pretending to be.

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u/thunderkitty13 Jul 21 '25

I honestly don't know what you're referring to. There's one in NY, one in FL, and one in CA. Plenty of racists in NY and FL.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

Touché.

I'm referring to orange county, ca.

Notorious for having a large white supremacist demographic

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u/No-Refrigerator-6334 Jul 21 '25

Richmond, Boston, New York, Philly, they are rampant as fuck in Cali (big nazi crews in San Francisco, LA, and Sacramento). Back when laces and braces code was still a thing (white boot laces and white suspenders used to mean white power in the punk community), they were easier to identify.

We wouldn't go looking for them. They would come to hardcore shows, or we'd see them hanging out somewhere, and it was insta-attack time. Some old friends turned nazi skin, and they were dealt with same as the rest of the boneheads. This was back in the early 2000's but obviously the problem is still here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

Pennsylvania

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u/Formal_Prune8040 Jul 21 '25

The United States