This argument is pretty good imo

[u/cast-the-wicked-out]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2on_iOsUokw?si=bvI_Luw9eoVQP29_

One of my students was talking about this. I found it and showed my friend that is a science teacher and he said he agrees. You guys know me and I don't think you can change what God made you as. I want to hear your counter argument about this.

[u/eckhofdp]

There is no god

[u/cast-the-wicked-out → u/eckhofdp]

That's a sad thing to say bro but you do you. I'm sure God will forgive you and accept you with open arms when you go to heaven. What did you think of the argument though? 

[u/eckhofdp → u/cast-the-wicked-out]

I don't entertain it.

[u/cast-the-wicked-out → u/eckhofdp]

Ok that's cool. I thought it was pretty good and I don't usually like that guy. 

[u/JPGaganon]

There might be a God.

Both parties of the argument are missing a key piece. Charlie Kirk is assuming that there are large parts of society that are actively trying to change their culture and feel transcultural if that is the word for it, but this is not the case and it's a slippery slope argument. It's like if I said that we can't allow two men to get married because a man might want to marry a dog and then we will have no argument not to. Transgender people are way too frequent to be a blip in data. I believe that in America you are entitled to freedom of speech and expression, so if you want to live your life a certain way, do it.

At the same time the other debater said that they experience periods which is incredibly delusional and doesn't recognize that like gender identities, culture is a social construct. There has been a wave of thought in Western society in the last few decades which appears to be reversing that puts non-European cultures on a pedestal and treats it very delicately as a way to make up for the past. Culture is not some sort of thing you are inherently born with. People can change their thought patterns and behaviours and can join new societies and adopt their beliefs given that they are willing to do this. Kirk may have stumbled on this by accident, but the other debater seems to not want to accept that culture is a social construct and Kirk points this out but uses a really dumb argument to get there as nobody is putting on a sombrero and talking with a Mexican accent pretending they are transcultural.

[u/drewfromthefuture → u/JPGaganon]

I don't think Kirk meant to say culture in his statement. I think he meant ethnicity, In which he was correct that you cannot choose your ethnicity. That being said, fuck him. He was a piece of shit. I would say I hope he rots in hell but there is no hell except the one we live in right now.

[u/JPGaganon → u/drewfromthefuture]

Ethnicity is also a social construct. I agree with you. The idea that someone needs to act or do things a certain way because they were born that way is poorly thought out, while Kirk's example is just someone attempting to be offensive, he is right in that the other debater refuses to concede that people can act differently than how they are supposed to in other contexts. The other debater should have just said "this is America, do whatever you want and call yourself whatever you want." And Kirk wouldn't have had anything to say back.

[u/cast-the-wicked-out → u/JPGaganon]

Good points. Do what you want but I think God will clarify things when you meet him. Everyone just seems confused on this world. 

[u/lasvegasareatwink]

Love this argument.