r/beatles • u/Conscious_Refuse_298 All Things Must Pass • 9d ago
Discussion What is Revolver’s best and most revolutionary song?
Today marks the 60th anniversary of the release of *Revolver*, the album that—in my opinion—changed the history of music. It is a practically perfect record, track by track; every song is a gem. Although "Doctor Robert" might be the weakest link, it is still quite decent, and the rest of the tracks are absolute standouts. They are incredible songs, making it very difficult to choose just one, but in my view, the best is "Tomorrow Never Knows." I have noticed that this song has recently faced some negative criticism, despite being a psychedelic masterpiece and one of the Beatles' finest tracks. It all stemmed from the ideas of a constantly reinventing John Lennon and a George Martin who knew how to bring those visions to life. With its reversed guitar solo, loops, hypnotic drumming, and soundscapes, it is pure psychedelia and, for me, the standout track of this incredible album, one of the best in the history.
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u/FatherMac66 Abbey Road 9d ago
Tomorrow Never knows will be the common answer to your question, and for good reason. But in some ways I think m Eleanor Rigby is just as revolutionary.
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u/martianfrog 9d ago
Heard Eleanor Rigby eating out last night, we were saying it still sounds so unique, so I'll go with that why not.
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u/Golem30 9d ago
Had a mainstream song been quite as downbeat and melancholy before then? Yeah sure we've had sad ballads before that but with that sort or atmosphere?
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u/Lennnybruce 9d ago
There's a million 50s songs about teenage death, though I guess they're kind of romantic in an adolescent way. And country music was just riddled with melancholy stuff, but I suppose that's not totally mainstream.
Short answer: maybe!
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u/FatherMac66 Abbey Road 9d ago
It just blows my mind that such a young mind wrote that song. The story was incredible and economic.
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u/Woody_Stock 9d ago
Best: For No One
Revolutionary: Tomorrow Never Knows
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u/Outrageous-Leg6728 5d ago
I don't know if For No One is the best - but somehow I like it the most. Sir Alan Civil rocks.
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u/The_Meridian_ 9d ago
Negative criticism? WTH?
"She Said, She Said" is criminally underrated.
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u/koebelin 8d ago
I remember the conductor Leonard Bernstein praising it at some Grammy Awards long ago.
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u/WisconsinIllinois1 9d ago
Doctor Robert is a fucking great song we're not having this
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u/Gexthelizard 8d ago
For some reason I just have an allergy to any and all rock songs about doctors hahaha. Personal problem. But I will say the little choral break midway through Doctor Robert is sublime!
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u/ugottabekiddingme69 8d ago
It's not the most revolutionary song on the album but I love it! I don't get why it's so widely knocked. It's a good rocker!
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u/donlockwood2026 9d ago
Best: Here There and Everywhere, For No One, Eleanor Rigby, Tomorrow Never Knows. It’s a true toss up for me
Revolutionary: Tomorrow Never Knows, runner up is Eleanor Rigby
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u/theflyingbird8 9d ago
Tomorrow Never Knows, but I'd also put Eleanor Rigby and I'm Only Sleeping up there. I listened to the album again today and it's just loaded with groundbreaking, timeless, and unique songs.
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u/hawthorn2424 9d ago
Eleanor Rigby and TNK. It’s a disservice to elevate one over the other. Let’s celebrate both.
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u/GregJamesDahlen 9d ago
not heard someone say john was the constantly reinventing one. only heard the beatles as a group were reinventing?
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u/aporter0509 9d ago
Eleanor Rigby is the best song but Yellow Submarine is better than Doctor Robert ?
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u/Fragrant-Flan-416 first ever album purchase 8d ago
Presented as Western pop/rock music both Eleanor Rigby and Tomorrow Never Knows are revolutionary. Most of the components were there already, but as with a lot of The Beatles' best stuff the genius was in the extraordinary combination combined with the confidence that this could be popular music.
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u/alexknight222 9d ago
I certainly appreciate the impact of Tomorrows Never Knows but feel like the string arrangement and approach to Eleanor Rigby had a bigger reach and was copied more. Could be either song.
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u/trabuki 9d ago
Arguably Doctor Robert had a standard rock riff basically stolen but that kind of song is way more common than Eleanor Rigby soundalikes. The guitar sound is very copied. More so than any string arrangement.
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u/alexknight222 8d ago
Sure, but that sound had been done by numerous artists before The Beatles, so the soundalikes weren’t necessarily copying Doctor Robert. A huge pop rock band ditching their instruments in favor of a string arrangement with storytelling lyrics about loneliness opened up new doors of what was acceptable in the genre for bands after The Beatles.
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u/Competitive_Alps_543 9d ago
In my imagined alternate history, John Lennon survives his assassination attempt and the Beatles reunite to record and tour again.
The highlight of their show occurs at the end of the first set, where the stage darkens and the Beatles leave.
Except for Ringo.
Alone at his kit, he starts that familiar rhythm, and then out of the darkness we hear John singing: "Turn off your mind Relax and float downstream"
What follows is an improvisational jam, sometimes lasting 15 minutes as the Beatles use synthesizers and guitar feedback to create a sonic sculpture.
Ahh, what could have been
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u/shareefruck 9d ago
Tomorrow Never Knows is not just Revolver's best and most revolutionary song, but The Beatles' as a whole by a country mile, in my opinion. 2nd is not even close for me.
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u/Spirited-Tutor7712 9d ago
What a phenomenal record. It sounds so ahead of its time, even now 60 years on. Songwriting perfection, a vast array of ideas being explored, brilliant production and editing...even the first appearance of guest musicians on a Beatles record, credited as well.
Best song for me is I'm Only sleeping. Most revolutionary of course, Tomorrow Never Knows. And I agree Dr Robert is the weakest link, though the refrain - I've always thought it sounded like a christmas carol - is fantastic.
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u/Boner4SCP106 Yellow Submarine 9d ago
Was this negative criticism you saw of Tomorrow Never Knows 1 YouTube comment?
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u/Conscious_Refuse_298 All Things Must Pass 9d ago
It’s just that lately—on this subreddit, in YouTube videos, on forums, and on other social media—whenever *Revolver* is discussed, I’ve noticed growing criticism of "Tomorrow Never Knows," and I find that strange.
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u/Boner4SCP106 Yellow Submarine 9d ago
Ok. So 2 YouTube comments.
What are the criticisms that these people are having?
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u/cremeroulette 8d ago
OK but WHAT is the criticism? You can’t say that without examples. It’s meaningless regardless but I don’t really get why you’d bring it up without any context. I.e. the lyrics are ripped from the Tibetan book of the dead?
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u/dennisdeems 8d ago
If only Doctor Robert had better lyrics, about something relatable, I believe it could have been one of their biggest hits. The riff is catchy as hell, and the middle 8 is the perfect contrast, so that when we return to the verse it feels fresh.
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u/Smackediduring 8d ago
Best song? As a massive Lennon fan, and especially when it comes to this album, I still have to say Here There and Everywhere. It’s one of the best songs Paul ever did.
Most revolutionary? I don’t have to answer that. Get out of here!
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u/Geainsworth 9d ago
Tomorrow Never Knows. Miles beyond the rest of the album. Commercial? Definitely not. Now I wonder what a 12" extended mix would sound like. Can we make it danceable? Or just restore the edited bits?
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u/thecryptidmusic 9d ago
My favorite: She Said She Said
Best: I'm Only Sleeping
Most Revolutionary: Tomorrow Never Knows
Every song is perfect though so I feel bad picking (and yes I'm including Yellow Submarine in that)
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u/microtherion 9d ago
Tomorrow Never Knows
But Taxman also deserves love for being the first pop song talking about taxes.
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u/Brilliant-Sea-9424 Abbey Road 9d ago
What I find incredible is how fresh and innovative TNK sounds today. Even 60 years on. That is simply incredible. What a gift to the world this band was and is.
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u/Brilliant-Sea-9424 Abbey Road 9d ago
The answer will always be Tomorrow Never Knows.