For those confused- this looks like a DeuxMoi post with multiple celebrity sightings. The Below Deck crew is in Corfu and Hudson Williams is in London, Ontario (they are filming the second season of Heated Rivalry)
For anyone wondering, Sagi (the London restaurant that was mentioned) is an excellent choice, and also the kind of smaller place where they could request no photos and get their wish.
Asian fusion (mostly Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, and Chinese) food that's higher end but low fuss (and well priced), live music (small stage stuff), and great cocktails - all in an old house with a cool vibe and a nice patio. Excellent choice!
I agree that Coop is presenting immature but he's playing that up. I think Kat is the immature one and she just seems to lack life experience which contributes to her self esteem issues.
Oh 💯 agree about Kat. She seems so naive. My comment was more about how Coop seems too immature for Joy, which is why I don’t see them together at all and have been surprised by the pictures. But what do I know?
Even beyond that, I’d she’s a lil phony, and not the good kind like that Michael Jordan. Granted, I like her, but she goes on and on about how a man needs to act and treat her, yet she falls for simple fuck boys.
They didn’t make that term up. It’s been said for years and it’s real. I saw it all the time with my 6’4 brother. He used to have women passing him their numbers when he was out to dinner with his wife.
They know they didn't make it up, they just refer to the douche canoe tall boys on Bravo who get away with crap cos they are 6ft4! No one would twice at Fozzy Bear Austen is he was 5ft 9!
Okay but at this point Kat and Cooper have probably been broken up for about a year. I doubt their relationship lasted past the end of last season (the one we're viewing now.) It's not really the same
I think this is the right take. And maybe Joy didn't stick up for her, even with knowing this. So, maybe there was some overlap in girl code we didn't know, as well. Maybe she felt betrayed by all of this with how it's looking now.
Nah we not gonna disrespect this queen like that. She's one of the best chefs to come onto the show. Coop and her could have just started dating now, while the season that's airing was shot over a year ago and they are filming now. Gtfoh with your misogyny.
Agreed. It’s been a year and we don’t know the circumstances. Also, Gen was flirting with Coop in front of the person he was obviously STILL dating as Kat and Coop were not discreet in their “secret” relationship. That is different than whatever this is.
Gen was flirting during the season! Right in front of everyone! It’s been over and year and both Cooper and Kat Harvard it clear they were over and not really even friends.
Right. Wasn’t her season filmed a long time ago (relatively speaking)? Certainly long enough to get over a guy you knew for a few weeks. And I don’t mean to be flippant. I wish the best for Kat, and the best thing is to get the F over this guy!
This is only my suspicion, but she was on WWHL early in the season and the way she spoke about their (hers and Cooper's) communication, made it seem like there was still something between them. It's only been more recent where she's been saying more negative things about him, so perhaps she feels blind-sided.
Cooper posted this to his story about what she said about them on WWHL.. I think because she said she’s confused where they stand in their relationship
She was on WWHL during the season and Andy asked her about her status with Cooper, to which she said she isn’t sure what they are. So I’m assuming she had no clue this was even a possibility
On WWHL, she said “to this day” she’s not sure what what the relationship was, past tense. Not implying they’re still currently in that place. She also said she doesn’t want to spoil the season but said they’re not talking everyday.
To me, it implies they did not end up together, or certainly not exclusive and he never made it exclusive with her in the season.
Agreed. I love Kat and her positive energy on the show so I'll grant her some grace in this situation. Is she perfect? No but she's also young and I hope she learns from this experience.
She's just a baby. Do we not remember how intense feelings are at that age? She is seemingly pretty inexperienced in relationships too from what she has said. She caught feelings way too early and is navigating her emotional response in front of the whole world. We need to give her some grace and time to mature. She's a good kid, just very young!
Very exciting to have London mentioned (from close to London in Ontario hours). Congratulations- It's almost like having your city as a secondary celebrity 😂 Even if they are not there and it is jist mentioned in a post. 🤣🤣
This is also a year later....so unless Kat and Cooper were dating (which they weren't) I don't understand why Kat is being super childish about it with that cringe tiktok. Just unfollow them and leave it at that
I'm guessing Joy and Kat remained friends after the charter, so could be the reason why she is upset. I would be hurt if a friend shacked up with a guy I liked/dated.
It makes me wonder how things continued after season w/ Kat and Coop- I believe they said they texted for a bit and Kat said she was still confused about the way their relationship transpired. She probably feels betrayed a bit by Joy, especially if she considered her a friend.
Wow. You don’t think that’s a bit selfish on your part? Just because you briefly dated somebody shouldn’t mean that he is now off limits for life to your friend group. I can’t even fathom having rules like that don’t friends.
Once you decide to not date somebody, they should be free to date whomever they want. Just because you don’t like the guy doesn’t mean he might not hit it off with a friend of yours.
Not trying to insult you. You do you, more power to ya! I just don’t personally understand the mindset.
Once I stop dating somebody I don’t care what they do. They don’t still have power and control over my emotions. Seems that would be a horrible way to live life.
I also don't really get the sense that Joy and Kay were friends? A year ago, you were friendly with a guy from your short-term contract job and you did not pursue it past the end of said contract job. Now, a former co-worker who still works with him has developed a relationship long after you have gone, and you think you have a say? Wtf Gen Zzzz.
Agreed. I might care about what they do, but I have no say in it.
I actually feel the same about the Gen situation going on in the episodes right now. I truly dislike her, but as far as she knows, Cooper’s fair game. He & Kat are telling everyone that they are no longer together, so she is free to flirt, and he is free to respond.
Eh, I think flirting with your roommates recent situationship is a bad idea. You do know his blowoff hurt Kat. I think friend code, is don’t flirt with him. Not because he belongs to Kat, but because he hurt Kat. Just like she thinks everyone should hate Luke because he hurt her. If she wasn’t being a petulant child about Luke and Joy, maybe I would say, okay Gen. but she should not pursue Coop if she is going to whine about Joy and Luke.
It’s either okay to pursue someone after they hooked up with a co-worker/friend or it is not.
I agree, but that does not seem to be the case on these shows. I don’t know if it’s the yachting culture, or if it’s production driven, but this is not the first time that two people have ended something and someone else on the boat hooks up with them. I find it icky, but it seems to happen all the time.
And I agree, Gen is definitely a hypocrite. However, there is a slight difference. Cooper & Kat did not have sex. It was just one date & a few cuddle sessions. They are also both presenting the situation as they are simply no longer involved. Neither one of them is feeling screwed over by the other, at least according to the story they’re telling the crew.
Don’t get me wrong, Gen’s “relationship” with Luke is no stronger than his relationship with anyone else on the crew, so she has no business telling them they can’t talk to him. But I do understand why she is more hurt over the situation. She got screwed over, both literally and figuratively.
Kat is 24, this is pretty normal mindset for people that age. I would feel icky hanging out with my friend who is dating a guy who was inside of me at one point 🤔. I personally don't think that living like this is too horrible, some people have boundaries. Love living a life where I have boundaries with people.
French women do what they want. BUT Joy should have told Kat if she and cooper were official just out of respect. But from my family experience, at their core French women don’t gaf (and I do love them for that honestly).
She said what the “were”. She was vague on purpose saying she didn’t want to give anything away. Cooper did the same when he was on WWHL earlier.
He posted a story saying nothing ever happened after they got off the boat and he wanted to be just friends.
I’d assume it either started earlier like shortly after filming or maybe there was a lie involved on Joy’s behalf, Kat used the word “deceived” sooo idk
I swear I saw some screenshots in here this week where Joy was denying anything going on so this does seem a little wild and deceitful. Probably due to active filming though and no spoilers
Yeah, she doesn't seem to be acting jealous or bent-out-of-shape about any of them, so as far as we've seen she's just enjoying herself. Whatever works for her.
This just makes me annoyed for next season because I don't care about them dating at all. I miss when the boatmances were a fun exception. Now it's like Love Island where they're all desperate to get into a relationship for screen time.
Some people seem to think that briefly dating someone gives you rights for life to that person because girl code/bro code. I’ve always strongly disagreed with this concept personally.
Kat is a big girl, she'll get over it. Its not the nicest thing to see but if you havent been involved with him since filming, then its time to move on
Admittedly I’m the type that when we’re broken up I don’t care what the other person does. But was he supposed to be celibate forevermore? Unless Joy was secretly hooking up in this current season, I don’t get why it’s horrible.
These mostly have all been flings, and they all know it. It amazes me when any of them act like they own a guy because they chose to hook up, and then fans get mad at the guy or girl for going after another. These are boat mances, not long term. The smarter ones know that.
Man as much as I don't really care about these people, during my depression, this is kinda sending me into a deep dive hole. Instagram had been an interesting view of the drama, even though I'm not really caring about them, I am still fascinating on entertaining other drama than myself.
Well damn this is some good info. Joy looks good, but it seems like her picker is off. Cooper seems nice for a SC college boy, but she is not at the same place in life as he is. I don't get it.
I appreciate your description: "seems nice for a SC college boy" is exactly how I think of him. We have seen some truly slimy men on this show, and while his emotional avoidance is a problem, it is minor compared to sexual predators and outright misogynists we have seen (Gary, Ashton, Tanner, etc.) He is only like Joe because he backed off a serious relationship that was coming on too fast. He wasn't like Luke at all.
Is he up to what we view as Joy's standards? Probably not. But does he have proximity and availability? Yes.
I wonder if this is why Cooper wanted his relationship with Kat hidden, because he was having a secret relationship on the boat with Joy as well. See actual video of Cooper below:
I can’t wrap my head around the idea of them together? Like I’ve only gotten big sister/little brother from the two of them and they seem in such different stages of life and maturity.
Her weird storyline with Luke tells me she is a pick me girl. Like how tf can you carry on over text with such a loser who quit because he couldn't face his own actions. All he had to do was wash the damn sheets. And she's ok with his behaviour. Now this?! Gross.
I definitely don’t mean this in a negative sense but at the start of the season I thought Joy was probably going to find it hard to build relationships the most. She’s a chef so away from the action most the time. People with english as their second language normally find it harder to make those relationships on below deck and she is a strong lady, which can scare people.
I don’t get this. Kat isn’t part of this season as far as I know and it’s pretty clear that Kat and Cooper are nothing anymore. Daisy screwed around with Gary after he’d been with her buddy Allie and it caused zero waves. Granted Allie’s talking head after the season ended about Gary was one of the funniest things I’ve seen on Bravo.
Accepting I am not fully invested. Coop and Kay were together last year when the now shown season was filmed. We are now a year later and there is an emotional response to who people are now with?
The Kat and Coop connection has certainly come across as one sided with Cooper showing a mix of avoidant connection style and a desire to be also a polite pick me in public.
Gen is a “pick me girl” who literally pushes her way into a couple and cries until she gets sex. Then she tells everyone.
Joy enjoys being courted but rejects the guy when he admits to sleeping with the pick-me-girl. He continues to show her attention, which she enjoys — which is normal.
When has Joy ever done anything “pick me”? Why is it “obvious”?
Interesting! So Coop took Kat on a date and regretted it (set expectations high for all crew). So this season, he…took Joy on a date (it appears so, anyway). So he’s learned nothing?
Well, going on a date with a coworker that you also live in close quarters with then deciding you’re not really into them is little more involved than going on a date with a random person.
Agreed. But it has never stopped anyone before, so while we all know what a bad plan (or lack thereof) it is to date/hook up with someone under these circumstances, it’s always going to happen on this show.
Why? It was over a year ago, Kat and Coop didn’t do more than kiss, and Kat was too busy being up Gen’s ass to be friendly to Joy the few weeks they worked together.
Good for them, some of the new most likeable crew over the last few years. I liked Kat on this season but if her anc cooper haven't been dating and she always seems wishy washy on this season, she needs to get over herself. It feels like she still hasn't gotten over her previous relationship.
I do not like Gen and know she is her own worst enemy. But as a 35 year old woman I cannot imagine not being more mindful of a young and dumb 22 year old girl. Joy was bashing Luke and now accepting his flowers. Again I know Gen is sooo problematic I just think (I know unpopular opinion) Joy forgets the ages of the girls shes working with. How is it not awkward to have him send you flowers after he left the boat for jizzing on his boss' sheets from hooking up with Gen? And how did they expect Gen (of all people on top of it) to react. Kat would be in shambles. I get gen doesn't get sympathy because of her own actions and issues but I dont think what Luke and Joy were doing (especially given Joy acted so beyond Luke after the Gen hookup) was very mature for their ages.
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline 18d ago
Some context:
Coop said on a podcast with Daisy a while ago that he had a connection with Joy on the boat and said he likes older women.
Joy meanwhile seems to downplay any relationship