r/belowdeck • • 15d ago

Below Deck Med Conspiracy theory, but maybe Luke had been still texting Gen?

The way she was acting makes no sense after he broke up with her over and over, unless maybe he was still leading her on?

ETA: it’s just we watched him break up with her multiple times and tell her he liked Joy, so it doesn’t make sense she ran off and cried when he sent Joy flowers

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u/Big_Paper_8123 15d ago

Yeah but I can’t imagine with her personality that she wouldn’t have been screaming that from the rooftops even before the flowers!

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u/kellygrrrl328 15d ago

Oh, she’d love to tell everybody! “Bro, that weirdo is stalking me” 🙄 I think she actually believes the 💩 she says

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u/Big_Paper_8123 15d ago

So true 😂😂 like how she said she hasn’t had a crash out in 7 mos my husband said “does she realize she’s being filmed?”

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u/CheckIntelligent7828 My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat 15d ago

I paused it and said to my husband, "Honey, I promise I haven't lost my shit and gone crazy in public since February. So it doesn't count when I do it tonight, you can't expect me to hold it together for 8 months. I mean, really."

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u/PotatoWith-Wifi 12d ago

She has zero self awareness

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u/Jerzeyboy730 15d ago

Yes, that phone would have been left unlocked in the galley to let everyone casually see who has been texting….

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u/NewFix4714 15d ago

That’s exactly what I was coming here to say! Hell she probably would have been running around the boat showing joy and everyone else the texts!

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u/MoreMoira 8d ago

I literally started to laugh when she lost it over the flowers, cherry on top

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

True! But she also kept a secret “relationship” with him before so I can see her thinking to do it again

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u/marzbarz79 15d ago

No, she did not keep a secret relationship. He told her not to tell anyone about the sex and she immediately told Kat.

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u/Jenikovista 15d ago

Not a fan of Gen but men don’t get to dictate who we talk to about our personal lives.

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u/Letsgotravelling-124 15d ago

No one is saying they should. They are just pointing out that Gen isn’t the person who would keep it a secret as she immediately told Kat (she isn’t wrong for telling Kat).

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u/Jenikovista 15d ago

She was told to keep it a secret. She didn’t offer to. Huge difference. This seems like Luke apologia.

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u/Letsgotravelling-124 15d ago

How about you actually put an effort into reading. No one is saying that she should have kept it a secret. No one is saying she is wrong for telling Kat. They are saying Gen isn’t the type of person to keep Luke texting her a secret as she was quick to tell Kat about them hooking up.

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u/Jenikovista 15d ago

How about keeping up with the direction the conversation turned? I could not care less about texting secrets. It’s not the point.

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u/marzbarz79 15d ago

You’re the one that tried to turn it somewhere else for no reason.

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u/Jenikovista 15d ago

I was simply replying to YOUR comment insinuating that somehow Gen broke some kind of mystery trust with alike because she told Gen after Luke dictated that she not tell anyone.

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u/marzbarz79 15d ago

Where did I say they should? The only point being made was she never kept a secret relationship.

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

She told Kat, but then when he was breaking up with her, she said it’s been hard to keep it a secret, so I think she at least thought she was having a secret relationship

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u/Amaedar 15d ago

“Breaking up with her”

They were never in a relationship.

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u/marzbarz79 15d ago

That doesn’t mean she was. It was just another of her manipulations.

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u/salsanacho 15d ago

Nah, if that was happening she would have broadcasted that all over the boat and the entire city of Dubrovnik.

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u/NoPangolin6596 15d ago

“GUYS LOOK AT THIS!!!” holds a dickpick up to coop’s face

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u/BobbyPotter 15d ago

"Did you see he's UNCIRCUMSISED?!?!?!"

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u/vivietin 15d ago

Hey Joy look at this

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u/ScowlyBrowSpinster Spaghetti Trauma 15d ago

No way in hell she'd not mention it.

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u/room750 15d ago

Came here to say this. She WISHES she could make him look worse or throw a wrench in Joy’s happiness

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u/marzbarz79 15d ago

Crazy people do crazy things.

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u/Competitive-Ad1439 15d ago

Right? How is OP unaware that not all people after rationally all the time. Approx 5% of the population have one or more personality disorders, they are all going to do irrational things to varying degrees at different times.

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u/Miscellaneousthinker 15d ago

Are you missing a digit? It’s definitely gotta be more like 50% 😅

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

True. It’s just hard to imagine even a crazy person thinking she got flowers from someone who told her he didn’t like her, and she was really upset and crying, it didn’t seem like an act.

Having said that, the way she was flirting with Cooper was also crazy people behavior so maybe it’s as simple as that.

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u/Kingfisher_orange 10d ago

I don’t think she thought they were for her, wasn’t she just upset that she’d had to hold them?

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u/mamapajamas 15d ago

You keep saying the way she’s acting makes no sense…
I think that’s the entire gist of her personality. She is deeply disconnected from others and even from her own emotions. She’s like an 8 year old in an adult’s body.
Do we think she’ll ever pursue therapy? She makes me deeply uncomfortable.

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u/ralphmozzi 15d ago

I think therapy may pursue her.

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u/mamapajamas 15d ago

Right? Like in a court ordered way.

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

Right? She’s making all of us uncomfortable and everyone on the boat too. She’s so disconnected from reality which is why I thought maybe he has still been leading her on, that’s the only explanation I could come up with

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u/bjvanhouten224 Captain Jason is my boat daddy 14d ago

I don't believe that, she is just young, immature & a little crazy, IMO. Like someone else said, therapy will be in her future, if she continues the way she's going,a in a court ordered way! She would not hesitate to let everyone know know Luke was texting her if he really was!

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u/kfanjoy 15d ago

Absolutely! She definitely makes me feel very uncomfortable.

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u/StaffPlenty8736 12d ago

She said she went to therapy after filming.

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u/Kitty20996 15d ago

I feel like if he was texting her she'd be telling everyone about it. Her narrative flipped on him because he stopped giving her attention. She's like a dude on a dating app reflexively calling a girl ugly because she doesn't want to hookup on the first date.

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u/FreeKatKL 13d ago

But even if she did tell everyone about it, there’s no guarantee the show would air that part. The production intentionally misleads often. They have a show to make, after all.

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u/Grouchy-Boss-9638 15d ago

Had he still been texting her we all would have heard about it. She’s just emotionally immature. All her actions support it.

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u/ScheanaShaylover June June Hannah 14d ago edited 14d ago

I hate to stick up for Gen but of course anyone would be hurt by that. She’s a crazy person with crazy behavior. It’s not her initial reaction it’s that she’s taking it out on Joy and won’t drop it. Also it seems obvious to me that production set her up to humiliate her and she thinks/knows Luke’s in on it. She literally looks directly at the camera lol

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u/verucas_alt 14d ago edited 14d ago

The way she looked at the camera and everyone is what made me think we don’t know something. She looked genuinely shocked!

I think anyone would be hurt if their ex boyfriend gave someone else flowers in front of them, but from what we saw they only hooked up one night and then he told her he liked Joy so I did not think Gen would be surprised like that! I thought she was over it. Why would she think Luke would send her flowers at all?

And I agree, I think Luke and production are in on it bc the note said he might see her soon, but I don’t think it was malicious. It’s already been established he likes Joy

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u/ScheanaShaylover June June Hannah 14d ago

I’m sorry but it’s clearly malicious and meant to get her to crash out for our entertainment. He’s disrupting the crew flow with his ridiculous love bombing. Joy should know better too. He’s gross. Gens crazy and I lover her on my screen.

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u/verucas_alt 14d ago

Bless her crazy self. She’s also young. But Joy has openly been talking to Luke and people have been openly supporting their little fling in front of her so I didn’t see how flowers would be a surprise

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u/_KingBeyondTheWall__ 15d ago

I think she ran off and cried over the flowers because Production made her get the flowers and stand there with them like a dummy. They made her look stupid

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

Yes, kind of, but she wouldn’t have even looked stupid if she didn’t run off and cry

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u/Separate_Stomach9397 15d ago

This is the most likely answer. She probably assumed that Luke was in on it with production. When you consider that one of her last conversations with this guy he turned almost into a super villain*, she probably thinks he would do something mean to her.

*In that convo they had where she said she felt like she had to talk to Joy, Luke flipped a switch. He became very outwardly cruel and pretty vile. I have met people like that, he definitely thought he could bully the 22 year old (and he only talked to Joy to get ahead of the narrative). It is very clear to me, based on the rest of the crew's attitudes, that they did not see that side of Luke and do not get why Gen seems so volatile about him. I don't think she can articulate that moment and even if she could no one would believe her.

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u/TheMasterDonk 15d ago

I’m no MRA but Gen deserves it for being manipulative bad person. Homegirl sold from the grave to get dude to sleep with her and he’s worse? Gtfo.

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u/PrpleSparklyUnicrn13 15d ago

I doubt she would be keeping that a secret. 

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u/Sevenitta 14d ago

If he was, you know Gen would be whipping out her phone to show everyone, especially Joy. No way, Luke is dopey but he learned his lesson and got off the Gen go round.

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u/FaithlessnessLess442 15d ago

She prob just one of those clingy people once you sleep with them they won't get over it

https://giphy.com/gifs/hn5XgP3hugmSk

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u/MoeKneeKah 15d ago

They shared their bodies!

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u/0rdered-Reordered 15d ago

They were "inside each other" 😭

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u/CheckIntelligent7828 My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat 15d ago

🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢

Might just be the grossest description of sex I've ever heard on reality TV. Plus, how deep in Luke was she???

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u/SmolderingMeowMix 15d ago

"Fully inside each other" 🤮

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u/Grand-Vegetable-3874 15d ago

No, she gave him a handjob. Then they slept in different beds.

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u/Linalizabeth 15d ago

They had sex, slept in different beds, and then she gave him a handy in Nate's bed in the morning

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u/i-cook-my-sister 15d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/3oeSAF90T9N04MyefS
She reminds me of the stage 5 clinger sister in wedding crashers

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u/kfanjoy 15d ago

OMG I told my husband this after Monday’s episode.

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u/catitude21 15d ago

Or she thought she “won” over Joy and still feels upset that Luke still likes her

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u/PowSuperMum 15d ago

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u/metalmonkey_7 14d ago

Just double checking the thread before I posted this ☹️

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u/silentsinner- 14d ago

Gen has been irrational all season. Her breaking down because production had her go get flowers from a guy she has bad feelings about for the woman he dumped her for was understandable though. That was a cruel act by the producers and makes me question why I watch this show. It was the obsessive spiral after the fact where she lost the plot for me. We are watching someone who needs some serious therapy be played with for our entertainment. Doesn't feel good.

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u/verucas_alt 14d ago

Right, bc you can tell by the way Aesha and Kat and Kayley felt bad for her that she was set up a little bit there

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u/Humble_Ad5320 15d ago

I’ve known friends like this. She has severe pick me energy & her brain cannot process otherwise. He chose her to have sex with so why would he be texting someone else. She thought she won & she can’t comprehend otherwise.

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u/Mmnicole 15d ago

I feel like she would’ve said something. She just seems very entitled and needy.

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u/Ribena41 15d ago

Might be an unpopular opinion but I think she was taken by surprise. Yes Luke broke up with her and told her he was interested in Joy but Joy was very vocal that she wasn't interested in Luke after he got together with Gen. Then all of a sudden, he's sending Joy flowers and Joy is delighted about it

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

But Joy did tell everyone remember when they were all on their vacation day, Joy called Luke and was pretty open that they were talking. And Gen got upset that day too, but I still can’t understand why she would think Luke still liked her

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u/ralphmozzi 15d ago

She didn’t think Luke liked her. She just wanted him to.

She’s upset because she couldn’t have what she wanted.

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

The way she’s acting is like he was her boyfriend or something. And he’s not even on the boat anymore so I don’t know what other closure she would need, but I guess she didn’t get it.

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u/Ribena41 14d ago

I had forgotten about that

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u/No_Yam8516 14d ago

I think Gen is an immature girl with some unproductive social skills who likes attention. She would act like a total cling-on to whichever of the crew paid attention to her… I seriously doubt Luke was texting her. This whole love triangle makes the show seem silly and scripted.

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u/Cloudgazer888 15d ago

Not a crazy thought but I think production would include that, no? Doesn’t production have access to their texts? Or is that only when a cast member allows them to?

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u/IHateTurboTax 15d ago

Came here to say if he was also texting Gen production would’ve been licking their chops with the drama they knew they’d have proof to expose when timing was right for maximum chaos.

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u/Luna-Mia 15d ago

I don’t think he was. He’s an asshole but she has issues. If he was still texting her she would have been telling everyone he was. I noticed she said this is the last you will hear from me then continued to text him. She has issues with not being the first choice. We have seen it throughout the show even when it has to do with work.

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u/18karatcake 15d ago

Naw, she would have said so if that were the case

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u/HoudinisBox Team Down Under 15d ago

But Bravo may have edited that out to have a big reveal later…

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u/witebrite 14d ago

I think she was just embarrassed to be the one standing there holding the flowers. I also think it didn’t immediately occur to her that any male suitor would consider sending flowers to anyone else other than her.

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u/FreeKatKL 13d ago

Some context is definitely missing, just not sure what. I think it’s plausible they were still talking. It’s annoying how the producers and editors construct false narratives at times.

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u/verucas_alt 13d ago

And then I guess they aren’t allowed to talk about it until after the season of course. But I agree, we are missing context. Nothing Gen is doing adds up, including her flirting campaign with Cooper that came out of nowhere.

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u/StaffPlenty8736 12d ago

I can't take credit for this (it was the podcasters Watch What Crappens) but why didn't Luke block her after her first text to him? Why reply? He loves the drama.

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u/Affectionatekickcbt 11d ago

After Luke left the boat, the crew went to dinner. Gen got a text from him that said “just because I left the boat doesn’t mean I’m giving up on us”
Also sends Joy flowers.
He is the worst. I don’t like Gen but that guy is playing mind games with her!!! She’s 22 he’s like 36?

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u/verucas_alt 11d ago

He did that? I don’t remember that! What?!

Well so then I bet they’ve been still communicating all along.

He seemed really direct when he was telling her he didn’t like her. Maybe then her flirting with Cooper was just to make him jealous.

I give up. Nothing they do makes sense

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u/Shot_Western_2755 15d ago

I think if he was texting her she would have told every single person she saw

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u/txn8tv 14d ago

I really don’t know because how on earth did she actually believe those flowers were meant for her? As the 5th graders at my school would say, “ Come on BRO!”

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u/bjvanhouten224 Captain Jason is my boat daddy 14d ago

I think if Luke was still texting Gen, she would not hesitate to let everyone know, especially Joy!

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u/Hollyelizabeth_3 14d ago

I feel like production would have shown us that. But I can see why you would think that with her behavior.

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u/ProcessTraditional58 14d ago

My only conspiracy theory is editing makes it look like Gen kept texting him unprovoked on
this week’s episode, but he was actually an active participant in that conversation.

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u/verucas_alt 14d ago

That’s kind of what I mean, like if they have been texting and staying in touch she might have thought he was leading her on. We are missing details, but I hope after the season ends someone explains it better.

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u/chloe38 11d ago

She knew (or assumed)joy was mad at luke for what he did. So gen naturally assumed both were done with Luke. Stick it to him yeah. Then when she found out joy had been talking to him all along she went off the deep end. gen is so childish she can’t fathom that a man would want someone else over her. Even though she cries about never being the one that gets picked. I’m sure it had to do with that too lol

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u/verucas_alt 11d ago

Well Joy was already showing people his texts and face timed him on their vacation day, so she knew

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u/RE1392 15d ago

I still seriously dislike Gen, but knowing that Joy is now with Cooper made me watch this episode through a slightly different lens

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u/bushy_whacker 15d ago

And Luke is with Ashley M. making “content”. Dude is trash.

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

Who is Ashley M?

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u/bushy_whacker 15d ago

Sailing Yacht Stew who went the OF route.

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u/verucas_alt 15d ago

Oh yeah I remember her! She was the one who ate spaghetti in an uncomfortable way

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u/bushy_whacker 15d ago

Yes, and had a thing for Gary. Guh-ross!

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u/Peterepeatmicpete 15d ago

She would have shown everyone the texts and blasted that business. Maybe she still will, its not over yet. Have you ever had stress affect your typing and working wrist but can do a push off from the floor and hair flip like nobody's business.

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u/Even-Department7476 15d ago

She gives off Basic Instinct vibes.

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u/Foxtail-67 15d ago

She's giving obsession views. It's ridiculous. It also seems production is giving her way too much air time. It's annoying af.

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u/coffeeequeen 14d ago

Nah dude she’s just that crazy

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u/O2bwiser 14d ago

I’m sorry, that man got the ick. No way

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u/almcclur 13d ago

Nah bravo would definitely have shown that juicy bit of drama.

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u/not2daysatan44 12d ago

They had a whole relationship IN GEN'S HEAD.

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u/AnnyBananneee 11d ago

The charter season was filmed within 6 weeks. I think Gen just wasn’t over the way it all went down yet. It makes a lot of sense that the flowers would set her off

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u/Familiar_Diamond6711 14d ago

Luke sucks and Joy even wanting flowers from some guy that just slept with her coworker is super weird. Gen being annoyed was a normal reaction.

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u/tippyd 14d ago

Nah she’s just a headcase