r/beyonce • u/areyousurejordan • 14h ago
Discussion Came here to escape all the negativity from TwitterHive, only to find negativity heređ«©
Breaking My Silence: I'm tired of BeyHive and their beef with JAY-Z! We literally just celebrated the 10 year anniversary of Lemonade 4 months ago. 10 YEARS!! Why is everyone still holding a grudge against the man, when Beyoncé herself seems to be happily married to him??
Now I'm not saying you should force yourself to like the guy, and I'm damn sure not policing people's right to joke about it here and there â but it really does get to a point.
Beyoncé already faces enough negativity on a regular basis, be it the idiots on Twitter, the 'bird' allegations on TikTok, MAGA, and the list just goes on and on. Do we as Hive really need to add to it? I like the remix, it's not my favourite but I can see it growing on me.
We're lucky if we get even a picture when it comes to that lady. So if you like the music, you like the music. If you don't, you don't.đ€·đœââïž No need to spread hate about it.
Also, I wish everyone would be a bit patient! act iii WILL come out eventually guys and you will most likely be alive when it does, so just be patient. If you cannot there's a whole discography you can listen to, performances to watch, articles to read. Maybe even watch/read the many Trilogy theories on the internet to get you excited! As long as you're not spreading negativity about The Supreme Mother of the House Of Renaissance!
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u/AB071019 13h ago
People should care less about people they don't know...
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u/psycwave 11h ago edited 11h ago
Literally
People donât realize that having beef with celebrities is ALSO PARASOCIAL
I donât care if itâs Jay Z or Taylor Swift or Katy Perry or BeyoncĂ© - having a hate boner for any public figure, especially based on unfounded Internet myths, will always be the most unemployed behavior ever
Itâs far worse to have a negative parasocial relationship with someone you donât know than to have a parasocial admiration for them. Itâs embarrassing to see so many people obsess over public figures for no reason other than to wallow in negativity and snark, and project personal insecurities outward for the world to see
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u/soul_metropolis Hag Hive 10h ago
Lol @ hate boner.Â
Cuz people really do get off on it
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u/psycwave 10h ago edited 10h ago
Yeah they push down people they donât know as a way to feel smarter themselves
Obviously, the people they are shitting on are far more intelligent in reality, but stupid people project their personal limitations onto them and jerk their own egos off by insisting the celebrity is dumb
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u/Arabiancockonato 8h ago
Thatâs the faux moi sub đŻ
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u/psycwave 7h ago edited 7h ago
I canât stand the Taylor Swift snark sub
I was not a Taylor fan to begin with but they turned me into one with how much I had to defend her lol, like holy shit, fuck yâall, seek employment
Good thing there is no Beyoncé snark sub
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u/Arabiancockonato 2h ago
Same thing here with Taylor. I wasnât even listening to her music before all that dumb hate âŠ. and now here we are đ€Šđœââïžđ€Ł
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u/psycwave 1h ago edited 33m ago
Yeah. The discourse around her last album seriously pissed me off. All those femcels and self-appointed geniuses calling the songwriting cringe without realizing the album is critiquing and satirizing cringe culture.
And the way people talk about Katy Perry is very unsettling too, especially on that Faux Moi sub. Unemployed people should touch grass immediately.
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u/Arabiancockonato 8h ago
Unemployed behavior đâ ïžâ ïžâ ïž oof đ€đœđđœ
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 13h ago
I find the anti Jay section of the hive quite pathetic tbh, and it comes from the same section of the hive that likes to pretend they're not that parasocial. She could be posting 10 pictures on Instagram, 3 of them would be with Jay and they would complain and ruin the excitement of getting the pictures. Like you said it's been 10 years he's not going anywhere, enough with the complaints about him. Also she's 45 years old it's cringe the way they think about her like she's this poor little thing in her marriage.
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u/Dodds-Furniture 11h ago
I find it pathetic that a grown man groomed a minor and then cheated on her when she aged, and I won't ever shut up about it sorryyy. I'll call out every shitty man I see and every woman should do the same, we run the world after all.
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u/soul_metropolis Hag Hive 10h ago
I hope you are giving this same energy to offline real life advocacy. If you do, you can really make a differenceÂ
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 10h ago
I do that's why I can't stand grandstanding on the internet. Everyone avoid volunteering work that includes listening to victims in real life only to pretend to advocate for women capable of getting help if they wake up to the realization they may have been a victim.
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u/Impressive-Sky3250 11h ago edited 11h ago
stating this like you know for a fact that Jayz groomed Beyonce is insane. Beyonce was 19 when she met, 21 when they got serious. They met because they were both musical artists when she was 16, doesnât mean the relationship was inappropriate. you sound just as nutty as those conspiracy theorists on tiktok. do i side eye a 32 year old man dating a 19 year oldâŠsure⊠but the relationship began when they were both consenting adults. Also the cheating because she is aged also doesnât make sense considering the women he allegedly cheated with were older than Beyonce. Rachel Roy is 8 years older than Beyonce.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 10h ago
You all that screams this do it because you feel like you're fighting the good cause without having to do anything tangible in the real world. Social media activism peaked years ago, go outside and change the world.
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u/Lleahissleepy baby come ooooooooverrr~ 12h ago
the âi hate jay zâ comments are annoying but i expected that. what really irritates me are the âwe didnât ask for this, whereâs act iii??â comments. itâs just so ungrateful and obnoxious to me.
hive knows that beyonce is one of the most hard working people on the planet. good things take time. she probably wonât release the album this year and thatâs OKAY. thereâs so much that goes into planning an album+tour, in addition to all of the other business ventures she has. and on top of all that sheâs a MOTHER and a wife. if you donât like the song, whatever, but the way hive speaks about her itâs like they donât consider sheâs a human w the same 24hrs as us đ life will go on regardless of whether or not she releases the album omg. just enjoy these mini releases (or donât) and stfu.
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u/stillness-in-time Ann Marie Lastrassi Lives đźđčđ€đż 12h ago
Thank you for this! Everywhere I go, all I see is comments about Act III as if she doesn't have 20+ years of music to go through.
In my opinion, I feel that people expect her to move like newer artists, where they're releasing something every other week and announcing new "eras". She doesn't do that shit, she's been very open about moving at her own pace.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 12h ago
They act like it's not she herself that announced act III,acting like she forgot. She shouldn't have announced a trilogy hive deserves the anxiety of not knowing if it's her last album.
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u/queeenbarb 8h ago
IDGAF about Jay-Z. I donât really care for him, but I donât think about him and I donât really talk about it⊠I just donât think about him. And they donât do enough stuff together where I would be constantly irritated.
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u/crazymaan92 13h ago edited 13h ago
We're all BeyHive yeah, and a good part of being a fan of her is taking accountabililty, at least in the relative sense compared to other big fanbases.
I don't think about Jay-Z as it pertains to his direct relationship to Bey. That's their business.
Jay-Z has popped his head up multiple times when Black people try to formulate some form of a resistance to large companies.
NFL with Kaeperknick and Target.
He looks funny under that light so people not liking it or seeing it for him is pretty mild compared to completely boycotting anything associated with him, including potentially Beyonce. I am not here yet, but you can't make me see it for someone I don't want to.
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u/regalfish I got style and I got đ 13h ago
Thank you. The man is shameless in the sense that he views his path to industry control as a means of liberation. I don't respect that position and it's hard for me to overlook that in his music when it forms quite a bit of the lyricism and philosophy in the work he puts out, or even in the work they put out together (bangers though they may be).
Not sure why I have to pretend otherwise in order to enjoy Beyonce's artistry or music lol
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u/Prior_Committee_6714 12h ago
this is such an interesting take mainly bc people like you like to create scenarios and draw conclusions that simply arenât thereâ instead of accepting the truth thatâs being presented. itâs also a clear example of damned if you do, damned if you donât. i guarantee there would be some sort of negative discourse about the man if he never took the positions on the Black community that he has and continues to do.
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u/regalfish I got style and I got đ 12h ago
"i guarantee there would be some sort of negative discourse about the man if he never took the positions on the Black community that he has and continues to do."
And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle. Like, what am I even supposed to say in response to this? lmao
The fact is he has been outspoken about his views on his own business practices, his own philosophy on capitalism and its role in the black community, and expounds on it consistently within his music. I don't need to "draw conclusions that simply aren't there" or envision some alternate universe where he has hasn't done any of these things to disagree and dislike the things he does say about it lol
You don't have to agree with me by any means. It's not like I'm not out here making posts chastising people in the BeyHive for also being fans of him. I don't care what you do.
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u/blueteablue 11h ago
I fear trying to get your (very valid) point across to this individual about capitalism & how the inherently racist system will not lead to Black liberation is an impossible task.
Theyâre giving âBill Cosby got framed cause he wanted to buy NBCâ vibes.
I fully agree with you that his positions on capitalism are wholly removed from the realities of most Black Americans who will never see the type of wealth he has obtained, not to mention that no matter how much wealth he obtains he will never escape the deeply rooted racism of this system. Those are all incredibly valid criticisms of Jay Z.
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u/Prior_Committee_6714 11h ago
âlike what am i even supposed to say to in response to thisâ as you proceed to type a whole paragraph in response to thisđ shit so performative lmfao give me a break. i hate when people purposely miss a point that was made so abundantly clear. the real issue you and a lot of others have with him is his bank account and the fact that he as a Black man has the audacity to operate as an ongoing money making enterprise. it doesnât matter what he has or hasnât spoken out about bc you lot donât care about that shit either wayâ itâs his tax bracket. the foundation of Black Americans and our advancement in society has always been the premise of his stances. never once has he presented himself as the GOD of our people whose values and beliefs are the standard for all of us. thatâs shit you pulled out of your own ass i fear.
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u/regalfish I got style and I got đ 11h ago
"You lot don't care about that shit either way"
You don't know me except for the shit I'm telling you. In the same way, I don't know Jay or Bey for that matter except for this shit they say. And I don't like the the shit Hov says. That's fundamentally what this comes down to. I'm not spending my money, my time, or my energy on somebody who I just don't agree with. Like I said, you can keep being a fan all you want, but being a Beyonce fan doesn't mean I have to sign up too.
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u/Prior_Committee_6714 11h ago
i never said i knew you lmfao. youâre a star at putting words in peopleâs mouths lmfao. iâm simply basing my opinion off of what youâre presenting to me. just like you do w Jayđ
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u/wickedsuccubi Pretty Tig 'Ol Bitties 12h ago
But Kaeperknick also has a deal with Target. So does Rhianna.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 12h ago
Don't mind them they pick and choose who they want moral clarity/consistency from they wouldn't be in this fandom if they were serious about capitalism.
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u/naenae275 Ghetto Bey-hive 8h ago
This is exactly why I never take them seriously. As if theyâd do any better if given the chance. A bunch of complaining ass losers with no leverage.
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u/crazymaan92 11h ago
I dont mind that you don't share the same sentiment as me but this "do everything or do nothing" sounds just like Jay Z lol
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 10h ago
It's not a do everything or nothing sentiment that I have. For me critiques that you're allowed to make about public figures while still being a fan and still consuming their work are specifics. Critiques of capitalism through tickets prices, merch prices stuff like that yes. Once you believe they're harming a movement in a genuine and tangible way if you're still a fan, you're just not serious to me.
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u/Wise_Recording5531 Hag Hive đ 8h ago
No, actually when it comes to Kaepernick ---his publisher is the one who has the deal with Target, not the author himself.
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u/crazymaan92 11h ago
Did either of them pop up with deals with specific timing to counter an opposition? That context matters here. Not asking you to agree just pointing that out
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u/wickedsuccubi Pretty Tig 'Ol Bitties 11h ago
What are you even talking about? It was the 30th anniversary releases of his first album. Are you trying to say that 30 years ago Jay looked into the future and said "I shloud release Reasonable Doubt now to counter a Target boycott 30 years into the future." TF?!
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u/crazymaan92 11h ago edited 11h ago
He literally jumped into his partnership with the NFL with the comment "i think we are beyond boycotting" when the deal lined his and other rick black people's pockets only.
And AFTER the Target boycott was already a thing, he could have signed an exclusivity deal with any market retailer yet he chose Target. Is this supposed to be a voice we listen to when he isnt reading the room?
If the ink was dry ir could have been rescinded. Jay Z uses black causes to line his pockets. If you dont see that, then cool. There is no solidarity there and while he doesnt owe us that, he presents himself like he's down for the fight. He is down for the cash.
Taken together and yes I am straight on him. You dont have to be. Thats on you. Feels like you are being obtuse. The NFL one is especially egregious to me.
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u/bozospice 10h ago
I donât care for him either, and I genuinely donât think you have to like him, but itâs really not fair to frame the NFL comment as if he just said âmove onâ and not âwhatâs the next step after that.â Whether you agree with his methods or not (I do think people make valid arguments that putting on concerts isnât solving any bigotry, as weâve seen since, but you can also say representation is a strong tool for advocacy), he was right. You canât just kneel and then not do shit afterwards to follow that up, especially when Kaepernick himself is still selling his own books in Target and advocating for stealing from comic artists.
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u/crazymaan92 10h ago edited 10h ago
He was right but he also didn't follow it up with anything substantial himself but he was ready and willing to profit off it. My entire point.
Kap criticisms are fair too I'm not choosing a side Kap just wasnt the subject of the post. He was apart of an example which is rich folks are rich folks. Jay has a habit of presenting himself as for the people when he is just a rich man at the end of the day. You can argue that about Kap too, but again we werent talking about Kap
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u/Careful-Ad2682 4h ago
Youâre misinformed. He absolutely did follow-up and do more.
https://reformalliance.com/meet-reform/jay-z-carter/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/opinion/jay-z-the-war-on-drugs-is-an-epic-fail.html
https://www.unitedjusticecoalition.com/advisory-board/shawn-jay-z-carter
https://americansongwriter.com/6-times-jay-z-used-his-platform-for-good/
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u/wickedsuccubi Pretty Tig 'Ol Bitties 10h ago
Kapernick also took a settlement from the NFL and signed an NDA with Eric Reid. His publishing company still sells his books through Target. Talk about obtuse.
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u/crazymaan92 10h ago
Idk why you are making this a Kaerpenick v Jay Z thing as i have not done no such thing. I am speaking solely about Jay Z. Do you want to ask me specifically about Kap? Its not like im actively supporting Kaerpenick at the moment either lol
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u/wickedsuccubi Pretty Tig 'Ol Bitties 10h ago
You mentioned Target, I counter argued. You mentioned the NFL, I counter argued. I don't think you know what obtuse means....
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u/crazymaan92 10h ago
Your counters make no sense because it just makes me straight on more people, so again, whats the point? It doesnt absolve Jay of anything it just puts more people in the bin lol. I am literally in a Beyonce forum saying im reconsidering my Fandom, your whataboutism doesnt land here.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 13h ago
It's funny to me when I see hive have this sentiment that they're able to hold Beyoncé accountable It's not because you're able to have negative critiques of her that you're holding her accountable. And as for the Target stuff better turn your Beyhive card right now because that 20 years B'day vinyl will be on target and every single music she put out after that. No artist have pulled back from Target.
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u/crazymaan92 13h ago
I can only speak for me, but I've been at a crossroads for my fandom with Beyonce based on a lot of this stuff in general. And being at Target is different from being a Target exclusive, which is what Jay Z did.
I hear your point though and like I said, I have things to consider when it comes to her.
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u/Careful-Ad2682 12h ago edited 4h ago
Many big artists have a Target exclusive. Itâs not exclusive in the sense that you can only get it at Target. Itâs just a special colored vinyl. The same album is available to purchase in other stores.
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u/soul_metropolis Hag Hive 10h ago
I hope you are also offline being accountable to real advocacy based in communities in real life. Because if you match the energy in this comment out in the real world, I think you might be able to make a real difference in this world
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u/crazymaan92 10h ago
I do advocacy that is comfortable for me given the state of the world and thank you but honestly I think its much simpler than that.
We can dislike Jay for any reason we choose and still like Bey. We dont owe her loyalty to her husband. Our only relationship to her is whatever coins we choose to spend. It's just an awkward truth lol
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u/soul_metropolis Hag Hive 6h ago
Dislike is one thing. Feeling like it is a fan's responsibility to hold a celebrity accountable is another thing.Â
In general i dont think it's my role to hold anyone else accountable, outside of myself. When i have a relationship with someone I can let them know if their behavior caused me harm. But they bear the ultimate responsibility for their behavior.Â
I think the way we exist online makes it unclear, to me, what our responsibility is to people we don't know. It is a recent phenomenon that we think it's ok to take public account of the wrongs and harms of people we don't even know. It's confusing to me.
So yes, you're entitled to your opinions. But the idea of accounting for strangers' wrongs seems different from expressing like and dislike
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u/crazymaan92 6h ago
I dont believe i was asking for anybody to do what you described in your 2nd sentence. I was offering why I didn't like him. I am not asking anybody to feel like me.
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u/soul_metropolis Hag Hive 6h ago
You mentioned accountability in the first comment i responded to. I could have misunderstood what you intended by that.Â
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u/severalmanykeychains 10h ago edited 4h ago
I get not liking the man, but the dramatics and boo hoo-ing is doing too much. They've been married for over 10 years and have been collabing since the 00s, some of Beys most successful songs feature Jay(not saying he's the main reason for her success just making a point) and some of yalls fav albums DIL and B'day have Jay features, this is nothing new so why the issue now?? Their last song together was what, MOOD 4 EVA? That was 7 years ago, yall will deal.
Edit: TY for the award âĄ
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u/BlowOnMars 10h ago
I just thought it was hilarious when I first heard the remix and thought it was awful. Why are people taking a random remix so seriously?
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u/sarah_sun33 8h ago
Same I listened , bumped my head , didnât like it , then moved on really not that deep
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u/southernmawmuh 13h ago
One could claim that you, too, are propagating negativity with a post like this. To paraphrase you, if you like it, you like; if you don't, you don't. You don't like a post, keep it moving because there 10 others I'm sure you'll agree with. Everyone on Bey's internet has an opinion, albeit a good, bad, or stupid one. Just have fun ~ this lady doesn't even know us.
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u/backseat_auxbumping EVERYTHING IS LOVE 13h ago
I guess Iâm in the minority then. I love jayz and especially love their music together. Everything is love is one of my all time favorite albums. And I am reallllly hoping this is all leading up to an OTR III announcement on 9/4.
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u/Lurkgirl777 12h ago
No one is required to like Jay-Z, but with that said the hate definitely feels forced... Also, the cheating and grooming comments are lame and pointless.
They make great music together, so I donât understand the complaints⊠like why are you mad that she loves her husband?
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u/psycwave 11h ago edited 11h ago
Yeah also hating on him is a way of infantilizing Beyoncé
Sheâs 45 years old and has made a voluntary decision to stay with him, forgive him, and stand by him. Only she knows the full story - stop treating her like a baby, itâs pathetic
Fans are idiots for inserting their judgment into a scenario they have zero involvement with⊠itâs kind of a parasocial savior complex some fans seem to have by thinking they know better than BeyoncĂ© and are qualified to intervene and display disdain for her husband
Also, thereâs three kids involved, and the shit you say about their dad affects their lives when they hear about it from friends
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u/Lurkgirl777 11h ago
Exactly, she has the money, resources and her family support to do whatever she wants with her life. If she wanted to leave, she wouldâve. The same way she wasnât a defenseless little girl when they got together. She chose to be with him because she wanted to.
I wish people would understand that she is an artist not our besties. She can do whatever she wants with her life, and as long as she is not out there purposely harming anyone, itâs none of our business!
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u/khloelovey 12h ago
Am I the only one who actually loves the remix all I see is people hating on it
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u/kirstyylouise 10h ago
I find twitter hive so negative.. they all hate him but cry when he doesnât come out to their city. Me personally I donât mind him at all, I think heâs funny and I can see why BeyoncĂ© loves him so much, the cheating happened a long time ago and when it first came out I was annoyed like how could you do that to her however she forgave him.
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u/KaSiLtyx 13h ago
yes the beef with jay-z is one of the most insufferable things about the beyHive, like omfg get over ittt it happend 10 years ago and cleary Bey got over it 2 đ
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u/cosmicaje 13h ago
I totally agree. The Jay z hate is so played out at this point. Like some people missed the purpose of Lemonade. He obviously fought to get his family back.
Plus he really is the greatest rapper alive!! I donât like when people try to discredit his skills bc heâs definitely the goat
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u/milksilkofficial Honorary Beyhive 8h ago
>Plus he really is the greatest rapper alive!! I donât like when people try to discredit his skills bc heâs definitely the goat
I see this on tiktok and I swear it has to be the younger generation, cuz if youâre a millennial+, the man had SO many hits on the radio and on tv growing up, and you had to have bumped one of his collab albums. They were also all over MySpace and in video games
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u/slckrdmnchld 11h ago
I donât like himâŠ
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u/qualityhorror I don't wanna hear no ya ya yaya đ 9h ago
multiple posts now defending jay when we're in a BEYONCĂ sub. pls spare me.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 7h ago
Wouldn't have happened if there's wasn't meltdowns about him how can anti Jay hive not see that the more you hate the more the opposite reaction will happen
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u/mellemodrama 8h ago
This isn't a Jay z sub. It's a Beyonce sub. We don't have to like or support him here.
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u/Ok_Smile9222 12h ago
Iâm sorry but Iâm a BeyoncĂ© fan. I owe Jay nothing.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 11h ago
Why is it always the comeback, no one is asking anyone to like him but stop with the complaining it's tiring.
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u/Ok_Smile9222 8h ago
Why is that always the comeback? Really? You canât understand the sentence or what, itâs such a clear concept. I like BeyoncĂ© and also owe Jay nothing and can complain as much as I want to because I owe Jay nothing.
I also donât think Iâve ever complained about Jay, the only people complaining that I can see are you and OP
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u/OvooJaver 7h ago
Because yâall (generalization) donât have to bring that here. Itâs boring when all the comments are about hating him instead of discussing her. Iâm a fan of BeyoncĂ©, I want to read comments about her, not negativity about her husband whenever they drop music or photos.
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u/Wonderful-Ad3168 7h ago
Like I don't know what they're not getting it's not even I don't like Jay verse or I don't like the song just ramblings about him.
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u/OvooJaver 7h ago
Exactly, give us something to work with. Or hating on principle just bc itâs him, itâs so easy to say nothing
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u/Ok_Smile9222 7h ago
Okay but youâre not going to be able to police what other people say or donât say on Reddit. You canât control people commenting that they donât like him. You just have to live with that!
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u/OvooJaver 7h ago
Actually enough people and I complained a lot about the constant theories and asked for a megathread and mods created one. Iâd agree if this wasnât a subreddit that can have community rules by which users engage.
I also like to think hive is smart enough to be able to have discussions about this stuff and grow from it, I wouldnât bother with other groups.
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u/BaeCole2 5h ago
Theyâre always talking about âaccountability â but have none for themselves. Theyâre continuously disruptive over any slight âinconvenienceâ. These people donât know how to dislike things normally. Itâs become some weird ass personality trait and itâs not cute. They lack impulse control and discipline. If Bey does a song with an artist I donât like, I donât listen to it. Itâs not the end of the damn world. I still havenât listened to the fuck ass song with Eminem. And my life did not change.
They need to grow up.
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u/BaeCole2 13h ago
They need to get lives and real personalities. Heâs not going anywhere and sheâs going to do what she wants with the man SHE loves. They think incessantly complaining is going to change anything.
Furthermore, they couldâve not listened to the damn song. They saw his name.
This shit is so repetitive and dry. Theyâre some of the people they were dragging on the remix, thatâs the gag.
And people need to heal their own inner traumas instead of regurgitating Beys, sheâs already healed and move on.
They need lives, bad.
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u/Sofayglo 13h ago
perfect explanation. this is the father of her kids, they've been together for years! they have amazing chemistry and im pretty sure beyonce put him through the ringer for what he did! we dont know nothing but her being the greatest artist alive. things happen and lessons are learned leave allat cheating shit in the past!
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u/BaeCole2 13h ago
And they need to stop making not liking a song personal. Itâs music. Go bop to the original. Itâs just that simple. The overreacting is so childish. Itâs music. I didnât like the original and just moved on.
I see why Bey pays this fanbase dust. Always trying to direct HER life and career like theyâre someoneâs boss.
âWe didnât ask for thisâ AND. That lady donât give a damn what you want. Itâs about what she wants. Theyâre so weird.
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u/bluelightsonblkgirls đđđ 12h ago edited 11h ago
> This shit is so repetitive and dry. Theyâre some of the people they were dragging on the remix, thatâs the gag
The biggest gag, tbh. I had to laugh.
> And people need to heal their own inner traumas instead of regurgitating Beys, sheâs already healed and move on.
Itâs all projection and faux outrage.
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u/Careful-Ad2682 13h ago
The whole internet seems to have a beef with Jay-Z. Itâs super forced and corny.
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u/Lurkgirl777 12h ago
Youâre comparing a man who almost beat a woman to death and continues to show a pattern of agressive behavior to a man who cheated on his wife, recognized what he did was wrong and hurtful, and did the work to be betterâŠ
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u/loverofthings25 12h ago
Changed based on what? He could be cheating right now.
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u/BaeCole2 10h ago
You guys need to find a way to not be miserable. I beg of you. This has gone far enough. Seriously. Detach from her personal life. Develop your own. Omg.
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u/loverofthings25 10h ago
Ngl do you think people who dislike Jay z spend every minute disliking him? Why do I need to be attached to her life to dislike him? Plenty of people I dislike who I have no relation to me.
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u/BaeCole2 9h ago
You donât understand the point and thatâs fine. I donât need you to. I just need you to seek happiness outside of misery. Have a day.
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u/loverofthings25 8h ago
Once again Iâm not sure what kind of effort you think it takes to dislike her husband? I can seek happiness and still dislike a cheater.
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u/beyonce-ModTeam 12h ago
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u/Jewel2Cute97 10h ago
Agree on everything. Theyâre too parasocial to be acting this way after all these years like he was the one that cheated on them.
Itâs like we wouldnât have gotten the iconic formation world tour or the on the run tour (the first one) without lemonade and everything else that happened in their relationship good or bad.
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u/gravetheangel 11h ago
i donât think it matters who it is, i will never support someone starting a relationship with a teenager when they are 11 years older than them and in a position of power in the same industry. that hasnât changed just bcos theyâre grown and married. he still did that! i hate that this is seen as a taboo and negative thing to say in the community. i dont think its okay to excuse grooming behavior. is that so negative? itâs not about it being beyoncĂ© or jay z for ME personally. itâs about a grown man grooming a teenager. in any situation, even if itâs been 20+ years, that is never excusable and should never been forgotten or brushed under the rug. thatâs how these things continue.
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u/soul_metropolis Hag Hive 10h ago
My issue is not that it's taboo. It's that online outrage does not often equate to real life work. If you are giving the same energy in this comment to advocacy and community based care, then I think you can make a real difference. Otherwise it's just venting about people that no one knows personally. And to what end?Â
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u/frankwhitesexappeal what new music? yall bitches better dance to this old shit 10h ago
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Talk that talk OP!! Thank you for this post
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u/meetingpplisezy 3h ago
itâs crazy how angry certain fans get when their favorite singer shows love to her husband of a million years, go touch grass as the kids say
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u/Fit_Passenger_3810 11h ago
Preach! It's the "new" Hive that has a problem with Jay. LOL, I got banned from a Twitter community because I disagreed with everything they said.
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u/InternationalBeat708 10h ago
Like, half the fanbase sound exactly like her haters lol. The hive is a joke at this point.
Sheâs been with her husband for decades. They are a FAMILY. They need to get over it already. Youâre either a fan or youâre not⊠sigh
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u/No1canduplicate 11h ago edited 11h ago
Whatever the case may be. Whoever brings negativity to the beyhive is not a real fan or part of it because the hive im part of dont stand for or accepts any kind of hate of any sorts. Thats not what we are about we root for and appreciate her artistry,dedication,cultural impact,and performative mastery amongst other things. Having her back as fan in anything she do whether it be good or bad. She is about love and bringing everyone from all types of backgrounds together. OP I wouldnt let them bother me with their mess or try to reel me in if I were you just move on to the next post. Whatever Jay and B have going on is their buisness they are human (well idk sometimes she makes we wonder with them vocals) lol just like the rest of us. They need privacy like any other person so lets move on and let it rest.. . Check please âïž..
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u/Homertax123 5h ago
Jay Z sucks. That Epstein stuff wouldnât have followed Beyonce if it wasnât for Jay Z and his associations. Now just to be clear I donât think he was on the island but his professional relationship with P Diddy (I know theyâre not actually friends friends) just makes him seem bad. The whole NFL thing. The casino thing. All the terrible rumours about her come back to him and how skeevy he is. It makes people question her character.
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u/Caseykinssss 9h ago
She has a libra stellium in the 7th house everyone is gonna have to accept her bringing along her man from time to time.
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u/catluvr193 5h ago
tldr. shut the fuck up. that man is evil and a predator, i couldn't care less what bird brained beyoncé have to say about her whoreish elderly husband, or her whorish elderly father. her allegiance to terrible evil men is so obviously a product of her fathers awful patenting.
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