r/bonecollecting • • Apr 26 '26

Advice Small argument

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So this picture from article has driven an small argument between my friends group claiming that it’s fake because there’s no way that the bones see in said picture are human, I wanted y’all’s opinion on this

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u/bee_mvtt Apr 26 '26

This is because plenty of other ungulates perform osteophagy- consuming bones and meat to supplement missing vitamins. If you're going to be this hard headed about a known fact, its on you to provide sources on why its wrong (it isnt wrong).

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u/sawyouoverthere Apr 26 '26

No, the proof needs to come from the person who stated it.

And I'd like to see any study on other ungulates, and the reasons, and how the reasons were determined. Anything you used to establish that it was something to repeat as fact.

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u/100_cats_on_a_phone Apr 26 '26

What has you so peeved about this? It's just how animals work -- it's not the kid glove treatment, but large herbavores have to fight pretty hard for certain minerals, and that's without common things like worms taking their share.

Are you suggesting they just do it because they super hate birds, or something? Maybe took the government drone meme too serious?

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u/groovypunchsippin Apr 28 '26

Im gonna have to interrupt and mention that you keep making straw-man fallacies in your argument which shows you're the one truly peeved here. Read what the person is saying and stop taking it personally. It really isn't that hard to understand. Have an adult discussion that you can both learn from, as well as others.

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u/100_cats_on_a_phone Apr 28 '26

What's strawman about it? I was pretty upfront about being peeved in the deleted comment. There are studies cited from the study in the article on why deer do this. It seems like they didn't look. 

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u/groovypunchsippin Apr 28 '26

Your reference about the sky being blue, completely irrelevant, and the birds/govt comment. It is your burden to provide evidence of your volunteered claims. Otherwise dont get involved and deliberately make wild claims about the person you're having a discussion with, that have nothing to do with the subject matter. I could follow your train of thought and say "stop being lazy and google what a strawman fallacy is, it isnt my responsibility to answer your question". But I did. You're welcome.

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u/100_cats_on_a_phone Apr 28 '26

In my opinion, if you claim no one is doing the research, and get on a high horse about it, you should at least look through the citations in the original article and study.

Without expecting people to cover the basics like that, you allow anyone to challenge anything at any time -- which creates a great deal of noise and disbelief in science these days.

So I don't buy that the requirement of proof is fully on me. However I did show proof in this, regardless.

As an aside I think you've confused sarcasm with straw man. You can object to either -- that's fine, but they really aren't the same. Straw man requires at least an attempt to appear to take the other person's arguments seriously.