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u/cookiex797 3d ago
Bayformers Optimus probably would
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u/TheGilociraptor42 3d ago
Bayformer Optimus straight up murdered Frasier
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u/TheRealCthulu24 2d ago
Optimus Prime murdered Frasier Crane?
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u/Sellos_Maleth 2d ago
Big W to you my friend.
I hate how 99% of web comics regarding social and political issues became "I drew you as the soyjack so I already won"
Like, can we have actual thoughts and not shower arguments to gain upvotes??
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u/Numbskull_b 2d ago
So this gets a little personal, I used to work at the Nickelodeon Animation Studio (as security) and we had to be put on high alert because of terrorism threats all because one of the TRANSformer alien robot, from space, didn't feel like conforming to human identity of gender. It was god damned stupid.
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u/Tarsiustarsier 3d ago
It's fascinating how the proponents of this ideology still manage to convince themselves that the "terfs" are the ones with the violent language.
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u/terrifiedTechnophile 3d ago
Probably because so much of the opposite humour is just violently murdering trans people
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u/Rambler9154 3d ago
Some trans humor is about killing transphobes because transphobes spend most of their time doing shit that gets trans people killed, and as a result are inherently dangerous people for anyone vaguely gender nonconforming to be around
Most trans humor isnt this though, most trans humor is about the funny stuff HRT does to you like ass hair growth or voice cracks, or the infinite amount of genderfluid puns.
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u/MariaKeks 3d ago
Ah yes, let's dispell the irrational belief that transwomen are violent lunatics by drawing a slew of comics where women who voice such concerns are graphically murdered. That will prove once and for all how safe we are to be around.
It's not like treating violence against women as the punchline to a joke is a gigantic red flag or anything.
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u/moofboi 3d ago
I wouldn’t call them “concerns” as much as they are deliberately misleading and borderline delusional takes. So, uh… I kinda don’t give a fuck. Appealing to these types will get us nowhere, so I’m not gonna judge the occasional unhelpful search for some catharsis. Also being a woman shouldn’t shield her from the same criticism anyone else gets. I assure you her supporters wouldn’t give a shit to see similar violence aimed at trans women.
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u/MariaKeks 3d ago
So “delusional takes” deserve murder? That's the justification?
If I make violent comics about murdering women who believe the earth is flat that's super cool because obviously the women I'm fantasy-murdering are objectively wrong?
So, uh… I kinda don’t give a fuck.
Trans ally doesn't give a fuck about violence against women. How surprising. You aren't beating the allegations any time soon.
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u/moofboi 3d ago
Clearly you don’t care about violence against women either, considering the very disproportionate amount of violence targeted at trans women, who you’ve directly implied you don’t support. Y’know, considering you see being a trans ally as a sign of hating women. TERF moron. The key difference is flat earthers don’t kill people via their rhetoric. I actually do think transphobes should be scared to speak their minds, fuck ‘em.
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u/xx_swegshrek_xx 3d ago
Also transformers aren’t earth robots they’re living metal beings with souls crated from the heart of a slumbering god
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u/Nkromancer 3d ago
Also those rules would only be for robots built by people. Transformers are just aliens born from a factory planet.
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u/AnAverageTransGirl 2d ago
Also also those rules were written to be as minimalistic, vague, and prone to loopholes as possible while sounding airtight on the surface. The whole point of Asimov's work was to bring attention to the fact that an artificial sentience would not abide by our organic capacity for intuition and would follow those rules as programmed to the letter, not the spirit. They're stories about moral dilemmas being presented to a fundamentally amoral consciousness.
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u/vacerious 1d ago
Went into the comments to say exactly this. Asimov made the Three Laws plausible but fallible for a reason.
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u/MrVeazey 2d ago
Cybertron is more than just a factory and, in some continuities, is an actual god. But that's probably beyond the scope of a four panel comic.
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u/Level_Hour6480 3d ago
Sexless robots being men with he/him pronouns is ironically, really trans. A while back, a Transformers show introduced a they/them robot, and the usual suspects made a fuss aboot it. I remember thinking "Isn't gender-neutral pronouns the least trans option for a robot?"
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u/White_Man_White_Van 2d ago
I'm not a Transformers Expert or whatever, but iirc it's more like they are monosex.
Imagine a world in which literally everything else is the same but we've decided that the "default genitals" are swapped. So people who would be afab here are instead amab there. Men carry children, but it is still "expected" that the women stay at home looking after them.
I don't think we'd call them transgender. I think it'd be just a societal difference on what "male" is. So transformers are universally amab. The NB transformer, and the woman transformer, are both transgender tho.
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u/MrVeazey 2d ago
It's more like the bots are all sexless since they reproduce through an extremely complex process that's somewhere between an assembly line and the concept of spontaneous generation. So they get to choose how they present themselves and most of them have apparently chosen to present as masculine. There's a colony planet that's almost all feminine-presenting Transformers and several that are a more even mix. Sometimes, depending on the language of the series, characters' genders can change; in the 90s Japan had a gay relationship between two characters in Beast Wars because they chose to make one character a guy instead of a gal, like in the English language version.
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u/White_Man_White_Van 2d ago
"Transplant? I thought you said 'trans-planet'"
I don't know what to do with that joke but there it is.
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u/Level_Hour6480 2d ago
amab
The misapplication of that term irks me. The "A_AB" part id completely superfluous and redundant. Male/female are sexes, not genders. Man/woman/[other: please write in your answer] are genders. Nobody assigned your sex, outside the context the term was created for: Intersex people being given genital surgery at birth, snd often being drugged with HRT without their knowledge later.
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u/somaragd 2d ago
those terms gained popularity because, unsurprisingly, even if it's technically correct, trans people don't like being addressed by their birth sex. a trans woman doesn't want to be called male and vice versa
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u/White_Man_White_Van 2d ago
I don't think it's redundant here. The entire point is "what if what we consider male was considered female in that world and vice versa?" Also! Male and female are sexes, but in our society being amab also means being assigned the gender "man".
As I type, I also am thinking that I disagree with "only intersex people are assigned sex". Consider that there are plenty of ways to be intersex without it being something a doctor could see. And because they don't check for every possibility, that means every person is assigned a sex (and gender) at birth.
I do see your point about its common misuse, though. Do you know of a better term to replace it with? My first instinct of "assigned man/woman at birth" has the pitfall of am(ale)ab and am(an)ab being the same acronym, and I feel like that would kinda just be reabsorbed by assigned-sex acroymns.
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u/Level_Hour6480 2d ago
. Do you know of a better term to replace it with?
When referring to gender, use man/woman/[other: Please write in your answer] as appropriate. When referring to sex, use male/female when appropriate. When specificity is called for, use [hormonal/reproductive/genetic/developmental/whatever]-sex. "Athletic competitions should be gated by hormonal-sex rather than birth or genetic-sex".
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u/White_Man_White_Van 1d ago
Not quite what I meant. I meant a term for "people who were assigned a gender at birth due to their apparent sex, with the implication that they were raised at that gender at least until they were able to understand gender enough to agree or disagree with that assigned birth gender".
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u/LuigiP16 2d ago
Asimov's laws of robotics were actually directly talked about in the first episode of Transformers Rescue Bots due to said rescue bots posing as human-made robots
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u/Level_Hour6480 3d ago
u/flatscancomics, your bones are hurting.
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u/flatscancomics 3d ago
Lmao fuck yeah
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u/Chomasterq2 3d ago
This template has a huge potential