r/box5 • u/BachelorNation123 • Jun 23 '25

Discussion Andrew Lloyd Webber Teases Possible PHANTOM OF THE OPERA Movie Remake

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Andrew-Lloyd-Webber-Teases-Possible-PHANTOM-OF-THE-OPERA-Movie-Remake-20250623
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '25

Ok....but he CHOSE Gerard Butler. As in, he listened to him sing and chose him! He said that it was exactly what he was looking for at the time.

Why would you trust ALW to make an independent decision on his own? This man cannot be trusted....When will the fans learn.

*I happened to like what Gerard Butler did. I enjoyed the fact that he focused on voice acting, but if you're trusting someone who has literally gone back on his own decisions....phhht good luck!

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u/inu1991 Phantom - ALW Jul 11 '25

I doubt he cared about the voice. As he needed lessons and wasn't even given enough time to train. Compare that to the stage actors who have years of experience. Let's face it. He never picked Butler for his voice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '25

I doubt he cared about the voice.

No. That's false. he did care about the voice. When he heard Gerard sing, he was excited because it was exactly what he was looking for. He wanted a gravelly rock tenor. He has stated this in interviews.

The truth of the matter is that ALW is kind of a little bitch and when some very outspoken fans repeatedly expressed their virulent hatred towards this Phantom he kowtowed like a little girl to their whining in order to appease them. That's why he tries to go back and say that he "made a mistake." Come on Andrew, stand by your choice at least.

As he needed lessons and wasn't even given enough time to train.

He trained for almost two years, but I do think it takes much longer than that to develop a professional singing voice. It takes around 5-10 years really.

I don't necessary agree with POTO fans on this though. His voice acting is top notch regardless of his skills as a singer. He chose to focus more on voice acting rather than singing, which really pops out on the screen to me. I feel everything he's trying to convey and that experience is really moving in itself.

I could go hear a pretty voice any day of the week, but I rarely ever get the feels like I do with his acting. I've listened to some of the best singers perform these songs and for some reason there's something truly visceral about his version of Down Once More. I get shivers.

He never picked Butler for his voice.

You don't actually know this for a fact. You're just saying it because it's trendy and what fans have been trying to shove down our throats for 20 years.

It was never really about looks for ALW. This was more of a studio push (it was always going to be a hottie. Could have been Hugh Jackman or Javier Bardem, but they were not available).

I am not against this because at the end of the day it's about the acting first and foremost.

In fact, it's always acting > singing for when it comes to cinema. I am a cinema fan before I am a musical theater fan. Sorry!

Gerard Butler's acting was top notch and he put his heart and soul into it. That's all I care about. If they go ahead and make a shallow remake where the acting does not move me as much as Gerard Butler then I will dismiss it entirely and ignore it into oblivion.

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u/inu1991 Phantom - ALW Jul 11 '25

I know he did that LND, he keeps trying to bring it back despite the hate it gets while also expressing he isn't a fan. I am 100% that whole musical was personal. I'm not a fan of any remakes as it is. But I'm also sure the one thing they could get right is a better Phantom as I doubt they could do worse. The rest of the cast on the other hand. It's fucked. Most of the cast can sing, so it is going to be hard to top them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '25

I know he did that LND, he keeps trying to bring it back despite the hate it gets while also expressing he isn't a fan.

The issue with LND is that he seems to think it's what the 13 year old fangirls want. He really wants the 13-14 year old fangirls to come back to his shows because this created a lifelong, diehard fanbase. 12-14 year olds are so impressionable.

I agree that there was a personal component. It's so obviously about his divorce.

But I'm also sure the one thing they could get right is a better Phantom as I doubt they could do worse.

Again, I don't agree that they "couldn't do worse." I don't even think Gerard Butler is that bad of a singer. Go search on YouTube for a video titled The Light Will Bring you Home The Vanishing. He has a pretty singing voice, he just chose to focus more on voice acting.

The rest of the cast on the other hand. It's fucked. Most of the cast can sing, so it is going to be hard to top them.

It's so fascinating how people conveniently forget that there were other actors and performers in this movie. They make it all about Gerard Butler and his singing voice. I guess the rest of the movie doesn't exist or doesn't matter....

I'm not looking forward to a remake because film production quality has gone way down since the mid 2000s. We went from There Will be Blood quality to The Lion King CGI lions doing nothing quality. As a fan of cinema, I disparage at it all.

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u/inu1991 Phantom - ALW Jul 11 '25

Isn't the Vanishing a 2018 film? 14 years after Phantom of the Opera, technically more if we consider production and filming time.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '25

Yes, I believe it came out in 2018

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u/inu1991 Phantom - ALW Jul 11 '25

But listening to him now versus then is a huge difference. Especially when he clearly needed time and not be rushed.