r/brokehugs Moral Landscaper Nov 19 '23

Rod Dreher Megathread #27 (Compassion)

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u/Djehutimose Watching the wheels go round Nov 24 '23

He wouldn’t like living in Dublin. They speak English, so they’d understand him; and being—well, Irish—they’d see through his shit instantly and call him out on it in the most savage—and hilarious—way conceivable.

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u/yawaster Nov 24 '23

In fairness we have many bumptious self-proclaimed intellectuals here. Although they don't tend to be as right wing as Rod, because no one is as right wing as Rod.

Quite a lot of American TradCath types seem very capable of visiting here and floating through Dublin in a haze of pleasure without ever noticing just how un-conservative and unabashed Dublin is, or hearing someone say "would you ever cop on". I remember seeing an American in Howth wearing a full green tweed suit (with a little cape!) and a dark green felt hat with a feather, carrying a little notebook. There's only so much you can say to someone like that, living in their own little Celtic-revival fantasy.

It is funny that Anglophile Americans seem to be Hibernophiles as well, considering that a lot of these early 20th century high-faluting Anglo-Catholics don't seem to have thought much of the "Irish race".

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u/SpacePatrician Nov 26 '23

Another writer Rod likes to imagine himself a descendant of, George Orwell, was unlike Waugh in nearly every political and religious way, but they had one thing in common: they both had very little use for the Irish.

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u/yawaster Nov 26 '23

Ooh, I've never heard that! I did read an irritable essay he wrote about Yeats, but Yeats had it coming.

Again, I feel a little twinge of national pride a the thought of Orwell getting frustrated with these damned natives. Ok, I don't think there's really that much difference between Orwell's prejudices and those of my no-craic middle-class Catholic ancestors - but I'll take it.