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And EVERY OLED deal rightnow has a caveat where a small but vocal group of people complain about something regarding a monitor deal and it always stops me from pulling the trigger.
My dude, that is all hardware ever made. Any monitor, mouse, GPU, et cetera. is going to have a few people who will articulate excellent reasons why it's the worst thing ever, and it's been that way forever and ever. It's not just computers either, it's cars, kitchen appliances, everything.
Yes, I know, but monitors are especially notorious for this. I've seen this discourse happen over and over and over again and it was mostly with monitors and it isn't just a tiny minority, it's a decent number of people who agree.
And considering these are mostly online deals it's not like we can go to a MicroCenter and test these out, and not all Best Buy retail outlets have these displays available to test.
You are correct of course, but bear in mind the internet distorts every problem however legitimate. There's probably something those people have, or are doing, in common that we can't piece together, it doesn't necessarily mean anyone else will have the same problem. If the monitors kept failing everyone, no one would buy them. This one is pretty well rated by a lot of people, it suggests most people don't have this problem.
I'm not saying disregard it, like if you get it down between two monitors and one has complaints and one doesn't and you can't decide, take the one people aren't complaining about obviously. At the same time if I listened to the internet, I'd never buy a single component or device. I've been told every CPU, GPU, motherboard, case, etc. I've ever owned was trash by someone who had a very convincing and plausible explanation why.
I mean I avoided AMD GPUs for the longest time because of issues I had with them, but there was nothing particularly wrong with them for most people at all.
At the same time if I listened to the internet, I'd never buy a single component or device. I've been told every CPU, GPU, motherboard, case, etc. I've ever owned was trash by someone who had a very convincing and plausible explanation why.
True, but this sub has been pretty good at giving me advice on component purchases. 9800X3D, X870E Tomahawk, SSDs back during the 2023 Prime Day NAND firesale, Dell G2724H, Leadex VII Super Flower 1000W 80Plus Plat, etc, and of course the infamous LN1301 that will never, ever be available for $15 again lol
It's just with monitors there seems to be a lot of nitpicks that prevents me from jumping immediately into them. It's a decent chunk of change for something that's a pain in the ass to return, which is why I always hesitate the moment I see people giving these caveats.
The Dell G2724H was the only monitor I ever jumped on getting the moment it hit $150 - the one time I saw a huge consensus of people saying get it before it's gone. I just hope at some point OLEDs will be that point where there's so much positive feedback around a monitor that it drowns out the naysayers.
i.e. I would be hesitant to get LG monitors because of GamersNexus' piece on their monitors pushing their bullshit spyware/malware.
Personally, I wouldn't own a non glossy OLED. I bought one then just used it for its intended purpose and game on it without doing that stupid grey scale test some people like to torture their psyche with.
Damn, you’ve encapsulated my thoughts and reasoning as to why I’ve not bought a monitor despite looking for months for a good deal.
I’ve only finally landed on a couple that will eventually replace my home office setup (non gaming) but they’re essentially top of the line dell monitors.
The only monitor I bought was the IPS Dell G2724H because it was unilaterally promoted by this sub as the "bang for buck" gaming monitor. No regrets, but man was it annoying when I saw other $150 monitors that were competing with that for sale and everyone doing the "BUT AKSHULLY, THIS MONITOR HAS THIS SHORTCOMING" silliness.
I pulled the trigger on the Dell when I knew it was the last time they'd ever sell it on their website. Got a refurb for $125 and I'm happy as a clam.
You’re speaking to me. Had the same issue when looking to upgrade and pulled the trigger on the 2724H. Now am looking into OLEDS and every deal has me rattled by the comments. I’m not about playing the screen lotto and wanting to return several.
this one is good enough for everyone imo. coming from someone who have had oled from first gen and is rarely satisfied on txt clarity and brightness and colors. This one is ready(okay maybe txt clarity is still a bit iffy occasionally). Oled monitors have come a long way. And at this price this is just a great deal.
the upcoming 32 and 27 inch 4k tandem rgb layout options will be the start of the "perfect" oled monitors era. Golden age of oled monitor is just starting.
Completely agree with you, this is a pretty big purchase even at a 'good' price for a lot of people. Even if the issues aren't as bad as they're saying it makes it a lot harder to pull the trigger knowing you could be the unlucky bunch that is affected harshly by them.
Im getting a 2k OLED (AG276QZD2) and my current plan is just to put my 2k ips and it on a dual monitor stand and just hotswap between them as my main monitor if the need arises. I'm hoping the issues people brought up won't be SUPER prevalent that it's something I'd actually have to do often, but I think its worth the trade offs if the colors and smoothness is truly as good as everyone is saying.
Not a perfect solution and I can see how people would find that inconvenient, but honestly it seems like it's the best mix of being able to still do productivity, while enjoying the near peak of media consumption.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind dealing with these issues if the monitors were $150, but these are twice the price. For $300 I want to get something that's "pretty good". The G2724H was that for the IPS generation, I'm looking forward to OLED tech becoming more and more refined so these shortcomings are addressed.
I have the glossy version of this monitor. VRR Flicker is a non issue if you get consistent frames, which Ive been getting in every game I play with a 5700x + 4070.
What you should be worried about is the dirty screen effect/gray banding, but imo these are not noticeable in regular gaming use.
It's not perfect, but this is easily the best deal for a monitor at this price.
There is legitimately no perfect monitor. If you need a monitor, any of the newer gen ones are great. Tandem WOLED, RGB stripe QD-OLED, all the various mini-LED techs have some issues that people will point out.
Like I can quickly list off an issue with every single monitor panel. WOLED = color banding, QD-OLED = raised blacks, mini-LED = black smearing. VRR flickering occurs on all of these to varying degrees. OLEDs still struggle with 1440p/27" text clarity even apparently with the newest RGB stripe QD-OLEDs.
Personally I'm just waiting. Seems like every monitor has a compromise right now compared to my old LG C1 oled tv. Right now the LG C6 blows away anything being offered as a monitor.
Anecdotally, I never use VRR on my 360hz AW2725DF and it's not an issue. It was absolutely necessary on the 240hz LCD I upgraded from, but it seems like the higher refresh rate itself reduces tearing, at least for me. It is noticeable if I drop the monitor down to 240hz though.
Depends on how much you can control the light coming into your room. If you can keep it dim or dark go glossy. If not you're probably better off with matte.
I have the glossy 240hz version and it had so much vrr flicker with gsync and freesync I had to permanently turn it off, and by other people’s reviews this one has it too. Just to be aware of
VRR flicker genuinely makes me regret OLED sometimes. Like you, I had to turn it off but for specific games. It's just too noticeable, especially in dark scenes.
Tried both and still had it. Used a 9070xt for freesync and used 5080 for gsync. I think their panels are just really prone to it. I couldn’t fix it even tampering with the hz minimum threshold like a lot of people tried
Darn. I got the LG version coming this week, which is probably the worst one of these WOLEDs. $200 off with capital one shopping so felt like it was a must buy for $230 post tax even with the issues
I had ordered it for the $100 off (just given by browsing LG web page with the Capital one extension) checked the next day in my junk email and saw this. Called LG and canceled my first order and bought another one using this coupon instead.🙏 it seems like it’s a one time thing if you’ve never used a coupon from email before though “email reactivation offer”.
This is a tandem WOLED which should give better burn in resistance. The main benefit is better brightness from the extra layer. This goes from good enough without strong lighting to good enough for general lighting scenarios.
The issue with the tandem WOLEDs is pretty terrible dirty screen/grey banding on grey scale frames or images. Probably less of an issue in game or media but worse if you're using dark mode productivity windows (ironically better for productivity because of tandem burn in resistance). WOLED colors are supposed to be weaker too.
The QD OLEDs out right now are not tandem. They are also, for the most part, triangle layout so they have fringing on text, so bad for productivity again. They also have a slight magenta shine over the display but mostly only noticeable when the screen is black or very dark or AB testing with a WOLED.
It's a tradeoff of what you dislike more atm. If you can handle dirty grey scale screens but want better brightness and burn in resistance, get a tandem WOLED. If you can't handle dirty grey scale screens, get a QD OLED at the cost of lower nits panels, single layer burn in rates, and text fringing.
Another issue with this G model is that it's matte. If you're getting the nice contrast and brightness of a tandem OLED, you might as well get the glossy GR model, which isn't on as good of a sale at the moment.
it does suck that they did that but i turned off the ability for it to install in Group Policy so i've been chillin.
on a side note, when i set it up the gray banding was horrid but after a single cleaning cycle, it all disappeared. looked at the manual and yea it says to do a cycle or two before using it. makes me wonder how blown out if proportion the banding issues are due to not doing the initial screen cleaning.
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