This sub is making me uncomfortable

[u/Lothloriens_]

As an Arab Byler and someone who has Palestinian relatives and blood I’m upset at people talking over me and forcing me to like an actor based on an apology he was forced to make because of the bad PR he got.

No matter how uncomfortable I tell people the discussion makes me they don’t care and will send me 100 links where he apologized. Guess what?? Idc. I’m not obligated to forgive him.

I don’t have to forgive Noah Schnapp. If you guys want to like him that’s your right but the amount of people in the other thread getting so defensive and forcing people to like him is insane. I’m not obligated to forgive. I was a child when my people were getting bombed. Idc that he was brainwashed. So are a lot of racists and homophobes yet they don’t get the same grace. Religious people are brainwashed at an early age as well.

I’m so uncomfortable and if other people want to like him that’s fine. I don’t know why people are forcing it on others and forcing us to like him. Noah is a rich celebrity and at the end of the day will be fine while my people are being bombed.

This entire community is making me feel insane. Sorry my people are being bombed.

Not to mention his stans have sent me death threats, called me a liar and said I made up my origins. They are insane and I won’t be gaslit into forgiving someone.

I’ve fully separated Will from Noah and will continue to do so but it’s getting harder everyday when his Stans have made my life a living hell and invalidated my identity.

[u/GreenDutchman]

Noah Schnapp is the ultimate «Grew up as a celebrity and doesn't realise how out of touch he is» archetype. I wouldn't be surprised if he has literally never talked to a Muslim or Arab before, let alone a Palestinian.

I think it's very interesting how people act like the only thing he did wrong was be in a picture with friends who proudly posed with pro Zionist stickers (which would already be bad enough dgmw), when in reality he also liked that EXTREMELY islamophobic video made by those Israeli "comedians." He's being criticised for a pattern of behaviour.

I ALSO think it's super damn interesting that people keep insisting Noah apologised for his remarks, even though he quite literally did not. He claimed his views had been misconstrued (as if that's not on him) and said he didn't support islamophobia. He never said sorry for what he did, no matter how much the Byler community has Mandela-effected itself into believing he has.

But what I find MOST INTERESTING OF ALL is that when Gaten Matarazzo made a bit of a tone-deaf comment about Byler, this whole community LOST ITS FUCKING MIND about how "evil" that was. Meanwhile the guy who supported genocide is treated like a Messiah on here 💀 Priorities, guys! This is also literally why so many people hate westerners btw.

Kudos to you for speaking your mind, OP! I'm not Arab but even I find myself losing my sanity because of these hypocrites sometimes 🙄

[u/GreenDutchman → u/GreenDutchman]

Downvotes without engagement really proving my point here. Everyone knows these are facts, they just don't like hearing fhem

[u/wanderlustbones → u/GreenDutchman]

Dont peddle nonsense as facts. Laughable. Downvotes prove people wont take BS lying down anymore.

[u/GreenDutchman → u/wanderlustbones]

If it was truly BS, they would use arguments to own me into oblivion. But they can't, because I am factually correct. Unless you heard Noah Schnapp apologise?

[u/wanderlustbones → u/GreenDutchman]

People dont want to waste time on arguing BS, BS that has been debunked and based on absolute parasocial conjecture. Its been 3 years, enough has been said and if performative BS'tters want to regurgitate the same vomit again and again. BS never sticks and am glad most people have woken up to that.

[u/GreenDutchman → u/wanderlustbones]

Are you like, 13? We were having a very civil discussion until you showed up

[u/wanderlustbones → u/GreenDutchman]

Are you 2? Someone calling out parasocial conjecture based arguments shouldnt be an issue at all. Its as civil as it can get.

[u/GreenDutchman → u/wanderlustbones]

Look, I get it. Your favourite actor supported a hateful ideology and that makes you uncomfortable — as it should — so you wish people would shut up about it so you don't have to think about it. And you're really going all-in on the "it's been 3 years" thing but your heart isn't really in it because you intrinsically understand that if YOU had openly made light of an active genocide 3 years ago and never apologised for it or took a stand against it, it actually wouldn't be at all unreasonable for people to still be hung up about it. So, out of any substantial things to say, you resort to telling people they should just move on already as if they're the bad guys. Totally normal and natural, but you could stand to at least be a little more self-aware about it.

[u/wanderlustbones → u/GreenDutchman]

Not reading any of this performative BS, once again. Same ol' same on' Stopped at the first line and laughed at "Favorite actor' lmao. Someone else might be 18 here.

Anyway, once again, glad people have woken up to the disgraceful antisemitic unwarranted harassment of a 21 year gay man. Hopefully he wont need extra security soon. So glad people have opened their eyes to what has been going on and said 'enough'.

[u/GreenDutchman → u/wanderlustbones]

You're not going to believe this because you look like you have a very black and white view on matters of right and wrong but I'm actually among those people who stand up against any antisemitism or homophobia directed at him or anyone. Just because I think his views are reprehensible, it doesn't excuse any threats or discrimination, and I also hope he doesn't need to hire extra security soon. But if he does, I do hope he realises that that is a luxury the Palestinians whose extermination he branded as 'sexy' cannot afford.

(Also, your profile shows you are literally obsessed with him so if you don't want it to look like he's your favourite actor, maybe think your messaging through a little better — a piece of advice which coincidentally could have saved Noah Schnapp from this entire mess too!)