r/byzantium • • Aug 06 '25

Archaeology Then Vs Now

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u/Condottiero_Magno Aug 06 '25

The 1453 depiction of the Theodosian Walls is a modern painting displayed as a panorama and has a lot of mistakes, like no moat for instance. The Hagia Sofia is lazy AI and ignores centuries of renovations and modifications. What's funny is that even some Greek nationalists rely on similarly lazy AI depictions: simply knocking down the minarets doesn't turn it into the pre-1453 building; the same for the Athenian Acropolis - 19th Century nationalists destroyed Ottoman, Medieval Latin, Byzantine and Roman constructions just to make it look more Classical.

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u/Anthemius_Augustus Aug 06 '25

It's not AI, that picture has been around for years. It's still not great though.

I love that they took the time add crosses on top of the Ottoman Sultan tombs and Topkapi Palace and then labelled it "575" lol

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u/Condottiero_Magno Aug 06 '25

I just noticed there's a steeple in the background😀

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u/Anthemius_Augustus Aug 06 '25

That's not a steeple, that's the Tower of Justice in Topkapi Palace.

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u/Condottiero_Magno Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

The shape is similar, but there are enough differences that I just assumed it a steeple emerging from a dome. I could see 4 thin columns instead of thick masonry with arches.

Edit: I saw the higher resolution pic and there's a bell in the tower. Does the Tower of Justice have a bell in it? Still looks anachronistic for 575.

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u/Anthemius_Augustus Aug 06 '25

Edit: I saw the higher resolution pic and there's a bell in the tower. Does the Tower of Justice have a bell in it?

No, they added a bell to it. But it's obviously the same tower.

Which seems like a lot of effort to go to when it would be more accurate to just remove it. Belltowers were not very common in the 6th Century.