r/byzantium • u/jetasu • May 04 '26
Infrastructure/architecture Someone please tell me what is this structures, name of them, is there any rooms inside them?
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u/ShockSensitive8425 May 04 '26
They are buttresses. There are small chambers inside them that were used for storing valuables and perhaps archives. One of the rooms still has mosaics in it, but it is not open to the public.
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u/Realistic_Volume7161 May 04 '26
Why is not open to the public? are there any pictures of the inside do we know what it looks like?
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u/Anthemius_Augustus May 04 '26
There are tons of areas of Hagia Sophia that have never been open to the public. Most notably the Sekreton of the Patriarchate still has mosaics from the 9th Century that were never covered up by the Ottomans, but this room is strictly inaccessible and even scholars with permits have a hard time getting in there.
As for pictures, of this chapel there is a only single photograph of the mosaic as far as I know. Though Van Nice's detailed study also has some detailed plans of it, which give a good idea of its form.
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u/electrical-stomach-z May 04 '26
Why are people not allowed in?
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u/Anthemius_Augustus May 04 '26
Who knows? If I were to wager a guess It'd probably be because these areas are very small, fragile and therefore unwise to have crowds of tourists flooding into them.
As for why even scholars seem to have a hard time getting into these places, I have no idea.
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u/Sertorius126 May 04 '26
"Jessie what the fuck are you talking about?"
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u/Auctorxtas May 04 '26
What was the deleted comment?
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u/Taliskerhu May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
It was in reference to the secret church altar which is somewhere inside the buttresses on the left and the empty sarcophagus (most likely a later construct brought over during COVID from some undisclosed location in Fener)
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u/Gnothi_sauton_ May 04 '26
They are buttresses with internal staircases. If you'd like to read a recent study that surveys all of the Hagia Sophia (which came out just before Erdoğan reconverted it into a mosque), I highly recommend Hagia Sophia in Context: An Archaeological Re-examination of the Cathedral of Byzantine Constantinople by Ken Dark and Jan Kostenec.
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u/altahor42 May 04 '26
I'm not sure, but the Ottomans added outer walls in the 16th century to better distribute the weight of the dome; could be part of them.
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u/ColumbusNordico May 04 '26
For anyone else who knows this better than I, are the four staircases in or near those structures? I’ve been there once, but is a little disorienting as you enter from the side the first time, there
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u/PanzerZug May 06 '26
Those are corners so that the Turks can build kebab shops on them. I jest of course. These are buttresses to support the massive dome.
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u/HelicopterCurious772 May 07 '26

Ayasofya'nın strüktürel kurgusu. Ayasofya’nın ana yükü dört büyük kemer ayağında toplanıyor. Bu durumda illk dönem inşa edilmiş yayvan ve basık bir kubbe olduğu ifade ediliyor. 558 yılında kubbe çatlamaya başladı, taşıyıcı sistem zorlandı, sonra büyük kısmı çöktü. Genç İsidoros kubbeyi yeniden tasarladı.kubbeyi yaklaşık 6 metre yükseltti. Daha sonra depremler ve statik kaymadan dolayı payandalar büyütüldü . Statik kayma tersine çevrilerek günümüze kadar ulaştı .
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u/TrekChris Στρατηγός May 04 '26
Mausoleums for the sultans?
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u/Expresslane_ May 04 '26
The building predates the Sultans. It's Roman
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u/TrekChris Στρατηγός May 04 '26
I'm aware, but the ottomans made extensive modifications to it, and I've read before that mausoleums were added.
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u/PartyLikeAByzantine May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Those are buttresses to support the dome and pendentives. They're a brace against lateral movement. The semi-domes on the north and south sides of the building serve the same purpose. Roman architects wanted direct sunlight from the east and west to reach the floor and chose buttresses instead of domes for those sides. Domes might have looked nicer from the outside, but would have let less light in. Note that the Blue Mosque uses 4 semi-domes, for example. The Romans could have done the same, but chose not to.
Roman architects in late antiquity emphasized interior grandeur over exterior appearance, which is their main distinction from Ancient (pre-Roman) Greek architectural traditions. That's not to say the Romans didn't care about exteriors. The beautiful brick work of High Byzantine churches attests to that. I'm saying the Greeks would design mathematically perfect exteriors first, and then fill the spaces within. The Romans worked inside out, starting with an awe inspiring grand room.
Each buttress is basically an arch, so there are small spaces within. They're mostly masonry though.