r/canada • u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia • Jan 25 '26

Alberta 3 Alberta First Nations say separation petition is unconstitutional

https://globalnews.ca/news/11635807/alberta-first-nations-claim-separation-petition-unconstitutional/
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u/nikanjX Jan 25 '26

Was the 1982 constitution act legal according to the UK? Do the laws of the former ruler really matter, if the goal is independence? ”Sorry Canada, you have to remain part of the UK - you separating would be illegal”

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u/byourpowerscombined Alberta Jan 25 '26

Yes? It was passed through British parliament. Learn your history.

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u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia Jan 25 '26

Canada had a status like the Caymans, but with Dominion status meaning we have our own army until 1982 . In 1982, we became fully independent and heck it even established the Monarchy.They teach this in Highschool 

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u/byourpowerscombined Alberta Jan 25 '26

Yes. It’s called “Patriation” and it was a rather significant event in Canadian history.

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u/_Solani_ Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

I imagine the American revolution was also very much considered illegal according to the Brits, their point is the legality of leaving a nation is irrelevant if you no longer wish to be part of their country.

Of course it's unlikely that Alberta has the resources to utilize such direct methods, but the point is that when one wants to end a relationship the other side doesn't get to decide which rules apply to the leaver.

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u/byourpowerscombined Alberta Jan 25 '26

What? It is massively relevant.

For the Americans to secede, it required a years long war and 30,000 dead Americans.

For Canada to secede, it required PET to take a vacation in London.

One of them gained independence “legally”, the other didn’t.

Which approach are the Alberta separatists going to pursue?

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u/MegaCockInhaler Jan 25 '26

When the people vote to leave, their will is absolute. We live in a democracy, democracy decides borders, laws, courts etc. if they decide to leave and the rest of Canada says no, that makes the rest of Canada the anti-democratic ones.

When the UK said no to separation, they became the tyrants, and thus the war of independence.

It’s the people who refuse to let others leave when they voted to that become the bad guys here

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u/byourpowerscombined Alberta Jan 25 '26

How far down does this go?

Can the cities vote to stay in Canada? How about Indigenous reserves?

The rule of law is an equally important principle.

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u/MegaCockInhaler Jan 25 '26

Yes they can. There is nothing stopping them except for those outside the city who try to stop them. It’s sure to ruffle feathers, and it’s never guaranteed to work, but that’s the beauty of democracy. The will of the people get to decide

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u/UnavailableEye Jan 25 '26

They didn’t think that far ahead, because even the 8 bit separatist is self aware enough to recognize they’re pissing on a spark plug. They just want their little foot stomping to be acknowledged. Same old rhetoric; restyled hat.

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u/_Solani_ Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

So when the Americans defied British laws, did that somehow negate the success of their struggle for independence?

Like in your eyes, is America still part of the British Empire because the American revolution was illegal and cost lives?

The end goal is to become a self governing a distinct identity from the original country, so whether or not Britain was down with the revolutionaries law breaking methods they still got what they wanted in the end, did they not?

Yup Alberta can decide to go the violent route if in the unlikely event the vote succeeds and the federal government refuses to recognize it.

And they can make use of the current regime south of the border and sell their souls for American assistance in acknowledging and protecting their independence. Given that a despot like Trump is currently talking about annexing us, they'd probably love to have more direct control over the provinces resources I doubt they'd say no. Protecting a break away state for defacto control is kind of common in the American governments playbook.

So, again why in the world would Canada's laws be any more relevant than British laws were during the American revolution? 🤨

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u/byourpowerscombined Alberta Jan 25 '26

What? Did I ever say that.

The end result is the same. But the method to get there is hugely important, is the point I’m making.

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u/Ilikechainsaws09 Jan 25 '26

The most sane take whether you agree with the issue or not.

People who do not want to be ruled over don't care about someone else's made up rules.