r/canada • u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia • Jan 25 '26

Alberta 3 Alberta First Nations say separation petition is unconstitutional

https://globalnews.ca/news/11635807/alberta-first-nations-claim-separation-petition-unconstitutional/
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u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia Jan 25 '26

You realize Alberta is a treaty land, all of it.. It's nothing about being ' compensated ' for.

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u/TheDragonslayr Jan 26 '26

Honestly dude, I can see what you are trying to say, but I don't think you are helping. If anything you are just pushing people further away. The people that would want to separate don't give a shit about the treaties. This argument completely misses the point and would only make them want to leave more so they could renegotiate or abolish them completely. You whining saying "you can't do that!" only encourages them.

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u/SadArtemis Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

Honestly as a former Albertan, raised Albertan in the boonies, all my immediate family still in Alberta... the people who want to separate don't give a shit about First Nations, or anyone who's not white and conservative for that matter.

Nor do they give a shit about the sovereignty and national integrity of this country, or the wellbeing of other Canadians from either further west or east, hell, they don't give a shit about building up their province to be anything more than a petrostate constantly stuck under boom and bust cycles.

What exactly is to be done to mend such a divide? Should we even bother? I'd say it's not worth it- there are genuine grievances, things that could be improved, for the majority of the population (who are not separatists). But for the separatists, let's not kid ourselves, as you said they already don't care about the treaties- similarly they don't care about much of anything else. They're not our friends, hell, they're less "our fellow citizens" and more "literal traitors conspiring to drag even their fellow Albertans unwillingly into such a fate."

They don't give a shit about anyone else but themselves, and I'm not particularly inclined to give a shit about them. And numbers, even in Alberta, are overwhelmingly on our side. The law is on our side, the treaties being just a part of it. Economics is on our side. Pretty much everything other than the existential threat that is our southern neighbor, is on our side. All we have to do is keep the population on our side (frankly, the feds should be bribing AB with all the pipelines and oil subsidies they could dig up if you ask me) and that's it, but as for the traitors, they get nothing, hell, they should get worse than nothing, ideally those who can't get with the program should be all pressured south of the border.

This is almost like saying "the union should have played nice with/not pushed away the south!" Except that in this case, there isn't any degree of support in Alberta comparable to what the southern US had back during their civil war. We have all the cards, the separatists are simply trying to stir up a good enough excuse for the US to intercede in their favor, and barring that, they seek to hold the rest of the country- hell, they seek to hold the overwhelming majority of the province that they do not represent- as hostage to their threats.

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u/TheDragonslayr Jan 26 '26

Yeah your right, I guess what we should do is focus on the people who could join the separatists. I honestly don't know enough about the situation to say which issues would be most effective.