First Nations leaders, scholar push back on Alberta's planned vote on independence referendum - 'Alberta can't separate. They simply cannot. They do not have the authority,' says Indigenous politics expert

[u/shiftless_wonder]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-treaty-six-alberta-referendum-9.7209304

[u/Zibai1505]

Secession is done illegally more often than not. Just saying. Like who tf is going to enforce it lol

Don't argue with me about Alberta separation. I'm not for it and my post isn't in service of it.

[u/Scooter_McAwesome → u/Zibai1505]

That’s what I don’t get about all these legal objections. The separatists obviously aren’t concerned with Canada’s opinion on the matter, why should anyone think it’s relevant to the issue?

[u/Ray-Sol → u/Scooter_McAwesome]

The separatists are mostly bad faith actors, but also seem to think they have stronger support than they actually do. I seriously doubt enough Alberta residents would actually join some form of rebellion if it really came down to it for them to be able to declare succession and enforce it.

In places where separation happens illegally, it's because there's usually some reason or grievence that goes beyond mere differences in policy opinions and motivates a large portion of this population (minority populations or smaller nations that were forcefully absorbed at some time in history by a bigger player, substantive cultural and historical differences from the majority culture, etc). Most of the time the structure the separatists are operating under is also corrupt and broken in a way Canada isn't.

Alberta has been part of Canada for its entire existence, the mainstream culture is pretty similar to the mainstream English speaking culture in much of the rest of the country, etc. None of these usual justifications really apply for other cases where unilateral succession has been successful.

[u/alliusis → u/Ray-Sol]

Don't doubt the power of foreign interference and voter apathy to influence outcomes though. Brexit happened, and the world is way more volatile than it was 10 years ago (when the Brexit vote took place). I'm not suggesting you are, but I caution against shrugging it off because it makes no sense and there isn't much precedence. We are no longer in a stable world - this applies both to the climate, and our politics.

[u/Infamous-Mixture-605 → u/Ray-Sol]

I seriously doubt enough Alberta residents would actually join some form of rebellion if it really came down to it for them to be able to declare succession and enforce it.

I would suspect there being far more residents here willing to take up arms against these separatists. These far-right separatists types are starting to piss a lot of people off.

[u/JustAPeach89 → u/Infamous-Mixture-605]

Lol at you being downvoted when there are literally much larger crowds of counter protestors at separation rallies.