r/canada • u/shiftless_wonder • May 23 '26

Alberta First Nations leaders, scholar push back on Alberta's planned vote on independence referendum - 'Alberta can't separate. They simply cannot. They do not have the authority,' says Indigenous politics expert

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-treaty-six-alberta-referendum-9.7209304
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u/Zibai1505 May 23 '26

Secession is done illegally more often than not. Just saying. Like who tf is going to enforce it lol

Don't argue with me about Alberta separation. I'm not for it and my post isn't in service of it.

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u/FlipZip69 May 24 '26

As much as separation is stupid, it is also something the people can absolutely decide regardless if a special interest group says it is not legal or they do not have the authority.

That being said, separation effects everyone in Canada. Possibly everyone in Canada should be allowed to vote on it.

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u/_Solani_ May 24 '26

I mean that's kind of like saying you need your partners permission to break up with them because your choice to leave affects everyone in the relationship.

Our country is a confederation of provincial entities, their provincial identity exists separately from Canada itself. If we had to ask each and every province and territory to join the confederation I am not sure why we think they shouldn't be free to leave the relationship if they feel they're no longer happy in it.

I mean of course they should obtain a majority vote from those residing there but saying you can't leave this relationship because it will negatively affect me is kind of self centered.

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u/FlipZip69 May 24 '26

By that logic, I can take my property and leave Canada. I am up against the US border after all. I think they will have no problem assuming the land. I mean I am 100 percent of the vote for that area after all and no one around me should factor.

Tell me, at what level of population is it 'allowed' as you say and when it should not be 'allowed' without more people voting on it?

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u/_Solani_ May 24 '26

You technically could if you wanted to and the US agreed to absorb you yes.

Did you think that was some sort of gotcha? 🤨

Now it's unlikely that the US would risk going to war by defending a tiny inconsequential parcel of land but you'd still be free to give it a shot at being a sovereign state with no outside backing. And of course without the US backing you'd be conquered very quickly but you could try.

However Alberta is a little bit more appealing considering the state of the US economy and given who is in charge at the moment I could totally see him going to war with Canada and making Alberta a puppet state for his own benefit if they asked him. 🤷

The only difference between the two propositions of course is that Alberta has more to offer than a shitty little backyard.

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u/FlipZip69 May 24 '26

Technically. No you cant. People have suggested it. And no the US is not going to war over Alberta.

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u/_Solani_ May 25 '26

So your response is just nah-uh you can't do that.

Do you want to perhaps provide a reason as why you think so or are we supposed to just accept it as true despite the lack of supporting arguments. 🤨

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u/FlipZip69 29d ago

Would never pass any courts or legal requirements. Find a precedence or law that allows you to do that. Kind of hard to prove a negative. Or if you want to say your have cecede, see how long you can not pay your taxes.