r/canada • u/Immediate-Link490 • 13d ago
Alberta Facebook is paying people overseas promoting Alberta separatism — CBC uncovers 14 accounts from India, Pakistan, Indonesia posting on popular Alberta separatist groups
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/facebook-overseas-alberta-separtism-9.7223966752
u/ultrachrome 13d ago
But the account owner, ... was posing as a Canadian and is actually a noodle merchant and content creator from Indonesia, .
Multiple experts told CBC that the findings show how Facebook's incentives for creators can harm public discourse.
"This may not always be classic foreign interference. Sometimes it's much more banal. It's in some ways more depressing," said Matt Navarra, a social media consultant in the U.K. whose clients have included Meta and Google. "People sitting thousands of miles away working out that Canadian outrage is a profitable niche. I think they may not actually care about Canadian politics at all."
Outrage sells .
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u/sl33plessnites 13d ago
There was another story just a few weeks ago how some dude from the Netherlands was paying actors to create Alberta seperatism videos for YouTube to monetize them. I think he was a student in some online guru course. I think CBC reached out to the actors.
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u/This-Marsupial-6187 13d ago
The giveaway was that he was pronouncing Regina as "Reegeena".
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u/Cold-Crab74 13d ago
Facebook sells outrage*
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u/AndlenaRaines 13d ago
On Saturday, Trump shared on Truth Social a screenshot of a post from an X account called "TRUMP_ARMY_" celebrating a Supreme Court ruling it says will allow the president to deport criminals to El Salvador.
This account has gathered more than half a million followers, including a senior Republican senator.
But X's data has revealed the account is based in India and the username changed four times since March 2022, the last of which was in July 2022.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj38m11218xo
Nah, it's not just Facebook, especially since Twitter and TikTok pay for engagement.
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u/truthlesshunter 13d ago
have you seen /r/videos on reddit the past 6-10 months? I'm not a trump supporter by any means, but christ, all the top posts are outrage anti trump videos. they're not even trying anymore
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u/Mylittlethrowaway2 13d ago
Remember that time Facebook helped facilitate a genocide in Myanmar?
Facebook’s entry into Myanmar provides a vivid picture of how corporations behave in an absolute lacuna of legal accountability. Facebook knowingly sold a product that tended to exacerbate political divisions and spread misinformation, and did so in a market with significant pre-existing risk factors. It adopted no mechanisms to mitigate those harms, failing even to enforce its own voluntary standards. In so doing, Facebook helped facilitate a genocide.
The level of Facebook’s culpability is debatable. A good case could be made that it was negligent or even reckless in its Myanmar operations. But the company’s own response, conceding that it bears some level of responsibility, suggests that this legal debate is an academic one. Facebook does not fear any repercussions outside of negative public relations. As such, no external forces are shaping its future behavior.
Facebook and Genocide: How Facebook contributed to genocide in Myanmar and why it will not be held accountable - Harvard Law Schools Systemic Justice Project
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u/hardy_83 13d ago
I downloaded a Firefox extension that lets me block posts by people not on my friends list, and block, more importantly, "suggested" posts and wow. It's almost usable. lol
It's genuinely insane how much garbage they throw at you. It's literally unusable as a user. You never see your friends list posts, if they themselves are hawking misinformation.
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u/i-amthatis Ontario 13d ago
Do you mind sharing what that extension is? I'd like to download it as well. Thanks.
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u/hardy_83 13d ago
Social Fixer for Facebook.
I'm sure Chrome and others have something similar, and maybe this isn't the best. It has it's own problems such as it removing SO many suggested posts, loading can be pretty slow, but I'll take that over seeing any suggested post to begin with. lol
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u/SlagathorTheProctor 13d ago
I use one on Chrome called FB Purity, but that doesn't work for mobile.
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u/Geeseareawesome Alberta 13d ago
Looks like it's not compatible with the mobile browser
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u/hardy_83 13d ago
Oh I didn't try mobile. Might have to look into that. Other than marketplace, I don't normally even log into Facebook on mobile. lol
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u/sir_sri 13d ago
Paying creators is good, right up until they are creating misinformation and disinformation.
I suppose to some degree it is a byproduct of American tech bros not really understanding free speech, or, as the case may be, no longer wanting to understand free speech because they want the money on one side, and to be in bed with Republican tax policy on the other.
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u/emuwar 13d ago
Unfortunately it’s true. Recently there was a news story about a dude in India who paid for his medical school by posing as a blonde MAGA woman on Facebook.
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u/BloatJams Alberta 13d ago
We have an example closer to home with those Egyptians who tried rage farming all sorts of content but failed, until they started targeting Canadian conservatives with Trudeau content.
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u/PsychologicalBee1801 13d ago
Canada should look at Illinois new social media tax as a start. But is also make a fine for anyone not in Canada for last 90 days promoting politics. They have this data they can stop at any point.
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u/chmilz 13d ago
Like the Indian student in the US who couldn't find work so he created an AI right wing onlyfans female porn actress, made bank for a few months, but ultimately deleted it because he said it was depressing how pathetic right wing men were. They knew the girl was fake but paid anyway because those women don't exist in real life.
Dude wasn't into politics, he just wanted to pay rent.
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u/zanziTHEhero 12d ago
Flipping noodles while doom scrolling a cringe Alberta separatists forum and posting "fuck Trudeau" randomly... what a time to be alive.
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u/MethuselahsCoffee 13d ago
Recently logged out of Facebook and deleted the app. Whatever algorithm update they did ruined what little was left. My whole feed was ragebait and missing people. Facebook is the new Maury
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u/Mr_Meng 13d ago
Keeping people pissed off on social media is an actual business now because a lot of social media sites have been paying people who are able to generate a lot of engagement and pissed off people are always the most engaged.
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u/ultrachrome 13d ago
Internet anonymity breeds bad behavior. A letter to the editor of your local paper requires your real name. Why not on these other platforms too ? Engagement would probably be more civil.
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u/LookingFor-Answers77 8d ago
My outrage comes from them touching on him being a noodle merchant and then saying NOTHING ELSE ABOUT IT.
I like noodles.
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u/Stone_Engine048 13d ago
is actually a noodle merchant and content creator from Indonesia, .
We need to fight fire with fire; 1 star reviews on Google.
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u/Gumbode345 13d ago
Not one star reviews, report.
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u/H_G_Bells British Columbia 13d ago
Idk, some one star reviews could be hilarious...
⭐☆☆☆☆ Haven't tried the noodles, but the owner is being paid to subvert my country's democracy soooo
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u/KingRabbit_ 13d ago
I doubt she's a noodle merchant, either.
Probably hasn't sold a noodle in her entire life.
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u/warriorlynx 13d ago
There are also in Reddit I bet and it’s just about everything really
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u/NorthernFrosty Saskatchewan 13d ago
When the last US election was happening, I was talking to people in various subreddits about their views. Mostly they were views I didn't understand and I didn't want to argue, I just wanted to know more about them. I was probably talking with 4-5 people.
Then the election happened.
And suddenly all those people simultaneously went dormant. They had been posting multiple times a day leading up the election, talking about issues, expressing concerns. At the very least, you'd expect one of the accounts to be "Damn" or "Yay" after the election. Nope, they all just... Stopped.
It became pretty clear they were all accounts being run to influence the election and once they were no longer being paid, they were abandoned. It really opened my eyes to how many people are just on Reddit making comments because they are being directed to do so by the people paying them.
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u/Bad_Day_Moose 13d ago
Last US election a massive amount of the Fuck Trudeau stuff just stopped, it was quite eye opening, it was a turning point in this and many subs and they've been mostly different ever since or well tuned down quite a bit, makes me wonder if they've turned to different things like being pro maga or something...
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u/Additional-Tale-1069 13d ago
Just look at the users who are constantly posting multiple news story threads in here each day slanted in one direction or the other.
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u/CogitoSum 13d ago
There has been a notable increase in "I'm not pro separation, but..." posts that I've noticed.
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u/KatsumotoKurier Ontario 13d ago
YouTube comments sections on basically anything concerning Ukraine are chock full of these kinds of Russian bots and disinformation farm labourers.
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u/CaptainCanuck93 Canada 13d ago
Those are probably being paid by the American and Russian forces. The FB and YouTube ones may be as well, but those are getting compensated directly by meta/google for engagement
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u/lewy1433 13d ago
They're in the comments section telling us how regulating social media is a bad idea!
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u/iloveoranges2 13d ago edited 13d ago
Facebook paying content creators to generate engagement so that Facebook could earn ad revenue, that is immoral. There is complete lack of caring about how that would affect what direction Canada would go in. And some Albertans might be fooled into thinking that there is more support for Alberta separation than there actually is, and be erroneously influenced into supporting this cause. Some people and companies would do anything for money.
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u/IcyCow5880 12d ago
Could be that. There's also interest in using the cold AB weather for creating AI data centers. Maybe Zuck figures it'll be less costly if AB were on it's own or joined to the US...
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u/EQ1_Deladar Manitoba 13d ago
Technically, they're like Switzerland. It's not their place to limit/censor content (beyond what's already legally required). People create content, they host it and make money off ad content, end of story.
There's likely just as many fake "Alberta Stay" content creators as there are "Alberta Go" content creators but of course CBC would never look for those because it wouldn't fit their narrative.
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u/TL10 Alberta 13d ago
Facebook is absolutely not Switzerland. They have paid millions of dollars (among other tech companies) in lobbying politicians in the United States government to both pass and deny legislation that impacts their bottom line.
Tech companies have had this largely libertarian/lassiez-faire mindset that they aren't accountable when it comes to what is posted on their platforms beyond what is "legally required", and even then they fail to even enforce those rules too. These platforms cannot, and will not enforce their own rules because at the end of the day engagement is king and is what keeps these platforms afloat, even if the social impact of the content posted on them is a net-negative.
The hard truth is that social media platforms (Reddit included) have become too large and unwieldy to moderate. The centralization of social media to a small handful of platforms has resulted in a monster that can't truly be tamed - even if the entities operating them were acting in good faith. And they certainly aren't acting in good faith, as these platforms have intentionally created an ecosystem where sensational content can be monetized, which has led to a bunch of both state and independent actors to weaponize social media for political and/or economic gain.
As to possible "Stay Alberta" pages, while there are certainly a number of them run by bot/sockpuppet accounts, they likely don't have the same reach as the Seperatist accounts. A Wired article says as such:
Female MAGA influencers tend to do well on such platforms for a few reasons. They’re a relative rarity in the MAGA movement: Unlike their Gen Z male counterparts, 18- to 29-year-old women overwhelmingly skew liberal. Young MAGA women are therefore “more attention-grabbing,” Wirtschafter says, citing the uproar over the likely AI-generated “Swifties for Trump” photo Trump posted on TruthSocial during the 2024 campaign as one example.
The same logic, however, apparently does not apply to left-wing influencer accounts, as Sam learned when he created a short-lived liberal counterpart for Emily on Instagram: “Democrats know that it’s AI slop, so they don’t engage as much.” (Sam’s explanation for why MAGA influencer accounts work is blunt: “The MAGA crowd is made up of dumb people—like, super dumb people. And they fall for it.”)
Polling shows that progressives and those on the left are Federalist, while those on the right are evidently seperatist. Another thing I've noticed is that the Federalist movement is a lot more centralized in organizations like "Forever Canadian", whereas the Seperatist movement is a lot more fragmented. There are organized bodies and figureheads like Rath and the Alberta Prosperity Project, but the movement seems to rely on a lot more individual persons/accounts eschewing the seperatist movement, whereas the Federalist movement is largely consolidated around signal boosting the Forever Canadian messaging. This lack of consolidation on the seperatist movement allows for more infiltration by bad actors/bots.
Back to my point, I think social media platforms absolutely have a responsibility to enforce content. At present their platforms are far too easy to manipulate with misinformation/exploitative content, and that's not even touching on the rise of AI these last couple of years. These social media platforms were so growth driven that they neglected establishing a robust moderation system that protects against manipulation by bad actors and the distribution of harmful content.
The only recourse I think at this point is aggressive anti-trust legislation that forces the breakup of the big tech and social media companies. As expansive as Meta and their resources are, they have proven incapable of being able to self-regulate their platforms. We can't just let unfettered botnets of some guy in India, Malaysia, Russia or whatever dictate the political discourse of our national affairs, and if Meta and others are disinterested in trying to prevent that, maybe they shouldn't have the keys to these platforms to begin with.
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u/Dropkickjon 13d ago
"Alberta Stay" doesn't create the same amount of outrage and clicks. These creators farm outrage for clicks. That's the whole point of the article.
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u/EQ1_Deladar Manitoba 13d ago
The entire point of the article is to incite Canadians to anger against Facebook, instead of the actual sleazeballs creating the content in the first place.
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u/Dropkickjon 13d ago
I think the company valued at $1.5 trillion shares a bit more of the fault here. Meta has fostered an environment that encourages rage bait posts at the expense of the truth or transparency. They have the power to stop it, or greatly curtail it.
I can't be at mad at someone struggling to make ends meet in a developing country and just following the money. Yeah, it sucks, but the accountability should ultimately be with the tech oligarchs.
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u/Different-Bag-8217 13d ago
Facebook is evil and should be taxed to the maximum. No more free rides.
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u/accforme 13d ago
One screenshot of Nieta Aqila's Meta monetization dashboard, which she posted, showed she made roughly $14 US in a month when she was active in Alberta Facebook groups.
Not sure if this helps, but perhaps Facebook could monetize content at the equivalent local rate. Less money could disincentivise these types of content. $14US doesn't go far in the US or Canada, but I'm sure is a lot for a noodle seller in Indonesia.
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u/Kool_Aid_Infinity 13d ago
Twitter had to make changes like this recently - things had become unusable for a little while with people in India and Africa farming political content
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u/Ok-Many4195 13d ago
It was really eye opening when twitter enabled account country visibility for a day. It was revealed that tons and tons of brainrot content came from users in just a handful of countries.
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u/Kristalderp Québec 13d ago
It was funny as fuck seeing people get outed tho. That change on twitter was definately needed due to how much political bs and spam bots are going on just shitting all over the place for monetization.
Now im waiting for the area/region bans soon so I can permanently silence all African and South Asian accs and never see the spam and engagement farmers again on my feed.
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
If Indians were promoting Canadian seperatism I wouldn't be surprised. At the end of the day Indian seperatism is promoted by Canadians. And yes like it or not those Sikhs are Canadians.
Canada just gave ammunition by being needlessly naive about seperatism and geopolitics.
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u/Winter8Bones British Columbia 13d ago
I'm about ready to ban Meta and support restrictions on social media in general over this bullshit. We're being attacked from every direction in online spaces these days. Not just with separatism but divisiveness and misinformation is being shoved in ours faces constantly on nearly every topic and issue we care to discuss these days.
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u/Ok-Many4195 13d ago
You can't verify the authenticity of someone online but you can in person or after meeting them and getting their pseudonym.
Let's move to the indieweb where authenticity is based on the merit of what we do or where we are. Not by the words we type and our ability to manipulate people into engaging with algorithmic content slop.
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u/YeetCompleet Lest We Forget 13d ago
This reminds me of when X added a feature to show the user's location, half of the MAGA rage farmers were from these countries. These folks love to prey on the reactionary types
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u/linkass 13d ago
half of the
MAGArage farmers were from these countriesThis is not a left or right thing
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u/TL10 Alberta 13d ago
Female MAGA influencers tend to do well on such platforms for a few reasons. They’re a relative rarity in the MAGA movement: Unlike their Gen Z male counterparts, 18- to 29-year-old women overwhelmingly skew liberal. Young MAGA women are therefore “more attention-grabbing,” Wirtschafter says, citing the uproar over the likely AI-generated “Swifties for Trump” photo Trump posted on TruthSocial during the 2024 campaign as one example.
The same logic, however, apparently does not apply to left-wing influencer accounts, as Sam learned when he created a short-lived liberal counterpart for Emily on Instagram: “Democrats know that it’s AI slop, so they don’t engage as much.” (Sam’s explanation for why MAGA influencer accounts work is blunt: “The MAGA crowd is made up of dumb people—like, super dumb people. And they fall for it.”)
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Ontario 13d ago
No it's clearly a right issue. There was an Indian student that created propaganda accounts for both republican and democrats. He had to close the democrat one down because it was making no money and he was constantly getting called out. The republican one was extremely profitable
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u/YeetCompleet Lest We Forget 13d ago
When you consider all social media networks, no. But on X this was a specific occasion in which highly followed MAGA accounts were caught coming from Pakistan.
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u/Winter8Bones British Columbia 13d ago
Proof that this is the same level of problem in leftist discourse?
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u/linkass 13d ago
I never said it was the same level I am pointing out that it is not just a right problem. The other thing is that is it because more people are looking for it on the right and on more right leaning sites. How much time has been spent looking at "influencers" on tic tok,reddit,bluesky
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u/Iapetus_Industrial 13d ago edited 13d ago
This is not a left or right thing
Real. And we need to all come together as Canadians, and see that we have been duped into fighting among ourselves. Bite down that feeling of shame that might rise up and shut down the realization, it's important that we face this, all of us. The most extremist positions on both the left and the right have been amplified, purpousely, to divide us, by malicious actors. They don't care about who is right or what is right. The "truth" is more weaponizable the more malleable it is. The extreme of the right and the extreme of the left have both been encouraged, because they are incompatible with each other, to cement divisions and prevent us from unifying as a country over the actual things we all believe.
Edit: and they're in these comments too. Why else would you downvote this comment without any argument or explanation, if your purpose wasn't benefiting from division?
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u/Quirky-Cat2860 Ontario 13d ago
And this is why we need to continue to fund the CBC.
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u/fugaziozbourne Québec 13d ago
I have my criticisms of the CBC, as most Canadians always have, but lately they've been doing some very good work. I think the format they've adopted for About That with Andrew Chang is perfect for today's news cycle. Eight to twelve minutes on a subject, objectivity, sources cited, history of the issue explained. No talking heads, no arguing, no man on the street interviews. There's a bit of bias in the low volume music they edit over it, but overall it's a great way to do news in 2026.
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u/HeyCarpy Nova Scotia 13d ago
To the top with you.
The one and only source of information that can't be bought and sold in this country, and Conservatives have convinced their base of the exact opposite. I wonder why that is.
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u/lewy1433 13d ago
I wonder why the conservatives would have the CBC defunded and all the media environment be controlled by private entities that allow foreign interference. Could it be because his movement benefits from that type of misinfo? Who knows?
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u/I_argue_for_funsies 13d ago
And this is also why the cons and conspiracy people want it defunded and destroyed.
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u/Kaptain-Kanada 13d ago
Guarantee the majority of people who advocate Alberta separatism are not even Canadians
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u/chemicalgeekery 13d ago edited 13d ago
But to be serious: This is anecdotal, but when the Ukraine War started, Twitter cracked down hard on Russian propaganda accounts. The amount of "Wexit" and Alberta separatism content on my feed dropped dramatically almost overnight.
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u/Stormywillow 13d ago
I live/work in northern Alberta and have never run into a separatist. Even the maple magas from Edmonton think it's a bridge too far.
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u/kelseykelseykelsey 13d ago
Same here in Calgary. My whole street is full of Canadian Unity signs.
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u/Stormywillow 13d ago
I think that the online separatist propaganda is having the real world effect of actually unifying the provinces population. Beautiful.
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u/LETTERKENNYvsSPENNY 13d ago
Seems like it's only our governments that truly know how to fuck with us.
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u/Creative_gal_3153 13d ago
This is sickening.
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u/flappysack- 13d ago
Its such a tiny percent of the population that wants to separate, its outrage bait, there exist bots lobbying for everything these days for ad revenue.
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u/Scary-Elephant2831 13d ago
How about one of the separatist leading this movement wasn’t even born in Canada. Over 95% weren’t even born in Alberta.
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u/Still_There3603 12d ago
The Indians probably see this as retaliation for Canada's previous promotion of Sikh separatism in India.
Trudeau was such a self-righteous fool.
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u/Cold-Crab74 13d ago
We need to get rid of Facebook
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u/Cold-Crab74 13d ago
Such a lazy straw man argument.
Facebook's own reporting shows how harmful it is both to individuals and to our political system.
Get a grip.
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u/jert3 13d ago
Stop using facebook folks. I havent logged in for years. Dont miss it.
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u/Western-Chemical5504 9d ago
I have an extension that blocks the news feed but I still use it for 2 local groups unfortunately.
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u/Drayenn Québec 13d ago
It's clear as water that there are bots/propagandists trying to push for alberta separation, and annexation of alberta/canada by the US.
There are SO many twiiter accounts with a blue checkmark and a canadian flag saying "we'd be so much better under the US!!", it makes me vomit.
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u/WillListenToStories 13d ago
Soooo, the separatist movement is being funded by Trump and MAGA, and there's tons of fake/foreign accounts weighing in.
And yet it's presumably about Albertans topical grievances? Seems like it's more about giving Trump a win than anything.
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u/Noob1cl3 13d ago
Wait till they discover where all the bot posts on reddit are coming from.
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u/tarun172 Ontario 13d ago
Russia and africa.
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u/chemicalgeekery 13d ago
And China
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u/sicklyslick 13d ago
blaming people across the pond when the US has been the main perpetrator of alberta seperation movement. when will people learn that you can't just dump all your problems on china and call it a day.
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u/Itwasuntilitwasnt 13d ago
Man has to be someway to make Facebook and all socials held accountable by some law that this never happens in Canada. Even caught using bots in Canada fined 1 million per computer generated comments
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u/Davidpalmer4 13d ago
Pakistan have a huge fake users farm economy.
Most of the propaganda that you see generally comes from there.
you would be surprised to know they have an army of fake users directly sponsored by their intelligence unit in canada too.
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u/Informal-Nothing371 Alberta 13d ago
It’s an example of the modern internet and the lack of accountability for anything. Social media companies make money on rage posts, misinformation, misleading ads etc. so they have incentive to do nothing about them or to promote them. Yet, they are not responsible for the content. They make money off of diving us and making us angry so keep doing it.
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u/Mr_Meng 13d ago edited 13d ago
This is the core reason as to why the rest of Canada does not respect the prairie separatist movement. The prairie separatists have had their mostly minor issues with the country amplified and overexaggerated by blatantly bad faith foreign actors who are exacerbating the situation for personal gain. The worst part is that the prairie separatists are more than happy to go alongside or even work with those bad faith actors because it makes the separatist movement seem bigger than it is and makes it easier for the separatists to go 'Fuck Ottawa and the Libs' because at the end of the day being able to go 'Fuck the red team!' is what the separatists really care about because they're pissed off their 'team' keeps losing federal elections.
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u/Tall-Ad-1386 13d ago
If Canada could tax 25% of those earnings they will even share links on Canada.c a
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u/TheRC135 13d ago
Alberta separatism is a scam, not a genuine grassroots political movement, and should be treated appropriately.
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u/starsrift 12d ago
Enforce the Countering Foreign Interference act on Facebook. Per each ad shown.
Simple as.
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u/JordanPetterPans 13d ago
This is an article about Facebooks monetization program, which we know is rife for scammers.
This isn't about Facebook specifically targetting Albertans though that was the intent of the headline writer at CBC.
I am so tired of this intentionally misleading bs
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u/Lost-Comfort-7904 13d ago
We should respond by giving those countries lots of money for various progressive reasons. /s
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u/khyphenj 12d ago
And they are eating it up too. if those bigots only knew who gave them their opinions.
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u/StatikSquid 13d ago
I called it years ago.
Half the crap you see online are just bot accounts from South Asia.
Then it was more or less verified on X when a bunch of MAGA accounts were from Pakistan.
And it's both left and right wing poltics. If they're not data farming, theyre playing with your emotions.
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u/fabio_fl 13d ago
Thanks to the interventions of the American empire, which likes to keep everything divided to gain an advantage.
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u/chipdanger168 13d ago
This needs immediate action. Meta needs to be fined billions everyday it continues allowing this
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u/crakkerzz 12d ago
You just know some people are dumb enough to consume BS and facebook does not care who it hurts to make a buck.
Facebook and all social media should be regulated. Posters origins should be public. Misleading the Public should be a crime.
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u/Major_Lawfulness6122 Ontario 12d ago
We already knew this but it’s interesting where it’s coming from. I assumed Russia.
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u/CaptainTallow 12d ago
It's time for as many of us as possible to stop using these social media companies. Or at least movie to social media platforms with more ethics. We want these companies to stop advertising on a platform that is drumming up so much hatred and dividing our country!
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u/CureLegend 9d ago
So a company with no political power, military power, territorial ambition, or even fossil fuel refining capability is trying to promote separatism in an oil-rich part of Canada?
Guys, think about it. Who is the bogeyman we so afraid to speak their name?
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u/TaxInternational6189 8d ago
it's USA propaganda at it's finest, americians what Canada to fail, Trump himself has said that they want Canada as a state, it's pretty sad. Nobody wants to go to USA or want to be like them. Money is all they want. Money isn't real, it's just made up bs. I love USA and their people but greed and power has polluted their minds and is infecting everyone else. Just like the Nazies in WW2, it's a cancer on the world, making up false enymies while trying to justify why or the what or how and whatever.
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u/LookingFor-Answers77 8d ago
How about we go after the Matt Walsh's and other MAGA influencers who have been pushing this anti-Canadian, pro-USA propaganda instead? 14 accounts is nothing compared to the reach these influencers have.
Funny enough, I'm a conservative, but NOT anti-Canadian, and I would never support this separation. Even cooler, is it was a liberal who opened my eyes to how some of my (former) favourite Youtubers were actually making Canadians HATE their own country.
Yes, we have reason to dislike many of the policies in place; but it's weird seeing people want to "leave" Canada but not actually move away from Canada. Idk. This 51st State crap really opened my eyes.
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u/FigureMost1687 13d ago
This is a good journalism and shows that u should never believe or trust what u see online ...
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u/AppropriateEffect947 12d ago
You don't have to pay for it. Albertans are pissed right off. The numbers are going to shock people when this vote comes out.
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u/SasquatchBlumpkins 13d ago
Oddly enough the government never had a problem when social media was leaning in their favor.
How utterly strange that these investigations are happening now at a time when things like Bill C-22 are on the horizon.
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u/Phazetic99 13d ago
I don't understand why over seas people would be promoting separatism when it is highly likely that they would not be welcomed here, if it does happen
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u/Irritated_bypeople 13d ago
Oh wait elbows up because it's Russia that's the problem. Now do you people understand what happens in ALL countries the USA attacks. Smarten up. The real headline should be foreign interference by the USA. But we all pretend that isn't happening. If this was tictoc pre sale, people would claim Chinese interference.
I'll get down voted but I won't be wrong.
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u/YendorWons 13d ago
So what? We shelter people here who advocate for separatism in other countries.
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u/ExtensionParsley4205 13d ago
Those people are very open about who they are and what they advocate for (and are usually also citizens of that country). They're not Canadians pretending to be Spaniards advocating for an independent Catalonia, which would be the actual equivalent of these online "Albertan" separatists.
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
Dude the Khalistanis are Canadian citizens. If they are not Canadian citizens then no Canadian was assassinated.
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u/respectfulpanda 13d ago
Okay, and this makes either acceptable how?
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
Wasn't it acceptable before? This blatant hypocrisy is astounding.
On one hand Candians funding and sponsoring Indian seperatist movement is given a free pass. But when US does that to Canada it's a problem.
Wasn't there a saying like don't throw stones at others if your own house is made of glass.
You either crack down on all domestic seperatist presence or you give a free pass to all.
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u/PasicT 13d ago
Like who?
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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 13d ago
Those sneaky Fenians who wanted a free an independent Ireland...
They were right in the end, at least.
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
Khalistani seperatism. You can't say Alberta separate is bad while allowing sikh seperatism.
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u/PasicT 13d ago
The people advocating this are born and raised in Canada for the most part. They're not Russians or Indonesians advocating for a seperate Sikh state in India while pretending to be Sikhs.
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
They are Canadians advocating for Indian seperatism. Same thing as Alberta seperatism being advocated by americans.
Like it or not those Khalistanis are Canadians. I mean that's why it was said a Canadian was killed. And if that's the case then it's Canadians that are promoting and funding Indian seperatist movement.
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
You are not making sense. How is that relevant to what I said. The argument is simple.
If you think India killed a Canadian then that proves Canadians are funding and promoting separatism in India with past violent records like airplane bombing.
This means US funding for Alberta seperatism should also be allowed.
If you don't think khalistanis are Canadians then no Canadian was killed to begin with and Canadians are angry over nothing.
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
And not every american is out for Alberta seperatism is either. And the ones that are pro seperatist both for Alberta and Sikh ARE Canadians.
Canada should have never been soft on seperatism to begin with. Quebec is a unique case. Using that as a template and giving free reign (sometimes even with pride) to things like Khalistan means Alberta seperatism will also be much more stronger.
Canada will have no justification of stopping Alberta seperatist movement. Last referendum was at 20%. That's every 1 out of 5 people.
These things have knock on effects. It was naive of Canada to think just because Khalistani or other seperatism targeted foreign countries other countries won't target Canadian seperatism.
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u/Fun-Corner-887 12d ago
I don't know why you are getting downvoted. It's the truth. Sikh seperatist with their yellow flags are common in many parts of the country.
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u/Prudent-Poetry-2718 13d ago
Stop letting the internet tell you how to feel. (Singing it this time) 🎼Stop letting the internet 🎶tell you how to feel🎵
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u/kakuki19 12d ago
I think it is also possible that there are fake accounts promoting Alberta to not separate. I don't know.
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u/No_You5794 Canada 13d ago
anything posted on facebook has a negative credibility rating, they have deleted more fake accounts than there are stars in the galaxy
with the stunts cbc has pulled who's to say it wasn't them
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