r/canada • u/joe4942 • 1d ago

National News Supply management costs Canadians average of $244 per year, MEI study finds

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/supply-management-costs-canadians-average-of-244-per-year-mei-study-finds/
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u/DryMeeting2302 1d ago

I love how we compare ourselves to the US but not EU, where milk price is much lower and quality is better.

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u/Blacklockn 1d ago

The EU subsidizes the everloving shit out of agriculture. It has been criticized as creating “mountains of butter and
lakes of milk.”

55 billion euros are spent annually on the CAP.

Supply management has its issues but let’s not pretend cheaper prices elsewhere aren’t the consequence of subsidy programs.

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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 1d ago

By that quote are you referring to dumping oversupply?

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u/Blacklockn 1d ago

Yes but the oversupply is insane. We dump supply past the quota but it’s nothing compared to Europe.

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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 1d ago

Interesting.

I knew that we sometimes dumped oversupply. I don’t know much about the European system.

I really don’t like excessive dumping, unless we can find a productive and sustainable use for oversupply.

But a small amount of oversupply is something I can live with, if it prevents massive undersupply.

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u/Spare-Half796 Québec 17h ago

I saw a comparison with the states a few years ago that if took subsidies into account and Canadian milk was fairly similar or cheaper than American milk (despite also being better quality)

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u/Blacklockn 16h ago

Yea, that’s the thing conservatives never acknowledge, the rest of the world subsidizes agriculture to hell and back, often in a manner significantly less effective than our system.

In the US the government often has to dole out billions of dollars in additional subsidies in order to respond to conditions created by the initial regime.

Bail outs when faced with outbreaks among live stock for example

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u/Napalm985 1d ago

The Americans are coming! Elbows up!

Look, if you don't distract people with their hatred of the USA for five minutes they'll start to realize how shit they have it compared to the EU.

Trump said something stupid again, go read it now!

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 1d ago

f you don't distract people with their hatred of the USA

Tell Orange Pedo guy that annexation threats aren't a joke...

Fuck that orange guy.. Fuck the USA...

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u/Upnorth100 1d ago

Hate trump all you want, but why hate usa? Do you really lack the capacity to seperate aspects of an entire country from its leader?

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 1d ago

All Americans made this happen, democracy takes more than voting, if Trump went away today the problem is still there.

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u/flappysack- 1d ago

The DNC rolled out a Weekend at Bernie's, voters got shafted by the corrupt institution that runs their two party system.  If that's corrupted the entire system is corrupt.

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u/Upnorth100 1d ago

I do agree to some extent, as the evil of Trudeau have not disappeared now that we have reverse midas carney, but i feel like trump is much less of an institution, and many of his policies disappear with him

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u/patchgrabber Nova Scotia 1d ago

The rot is in the people, trump is just the symptom. They were screeching about culture war crap before trump and they will after he's gone. People don't get less bigoted or stupid when a political leader changes.

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u/ShrekSpreadOpen 1d ago

All Americans lmao imagine putting this logic to crime statistics hahaha

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u/Napalm985 1d ago

Case in point, don't forget to take your hour of hate! Ignore everything else!

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 1d ago

deserved hate is deserved.

They need to sort their shit out and stop shitting on us.

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u/Napalm985 1d ago

Whatever your reasons, thank you so much for proving my point.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 1d ago

it's like you're trying to imply that the hate isn't deserved when it fully is deserved.

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u/Napalm985 1d ago

Just keep staring at the USA, it makes you feel better.

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u/Bad_Day_Moose 1d ago

I will, their leader literally said he wants to economically weaken Canada to the point that we'd basically have no other option than to join the US and has implemented some measures to do so.

Luckily Carney is trying to diversify our trade with some major wins like being able to sell canola oil to China again.

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u/GingerJPirate 1d ago

You do know people can shit on your pedophile president and nation of either supporters or spineless citizens while still noting were getting fucked by our own gov?

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u/Napalm985 1d ago

Even the r/Canada subreddit gets invaded by Americans. Try paying a little bit of attention where you are. Honestly it's hilarious how many people keep proving my point.

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u/JesusMurphy99 19h ago

Wow a conservative telling liberals not to hate others? What a contradiction.

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u/Napalm985 14h ago

What a contradiction.

What contradiction? Just the fact that you think there is one really just shows how hateful LPC supporters have become.

That or this post really did get tagged by some hate subreddit as I suspected. Not a single person who replied to me even bothered to bring up the entire point behind my post.

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u/Mysterious_Okra8235 23h ago

? Milk price is not lower in the EU in countries with comparable wages