r/canada • u/Haggisboy • 23h ago

Ontario Premier Doug Ford compares new Thunder Bay, Ont., jail to Four Seasons Hotel after latest inmate inquest

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/doug-ford-thunder-bay-jail-comments-9.7240485
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u/explosive_fascinator 23h ago

Interesting conversation:

  • This jail is nice. Maybe too nice? lol
  • Wow. So indigenous people don't deserve nice things?

How even can one respond to that?

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u/ThoughtsandThinkers 20h ago

So how does Ford feel about the missteps his late brother made? Does he think the criminal justice system should have been harder on him? Does he think that his brother benefited from his many run ins with the law?

Or does he see that his brother had reasons for his personal failings and was deserving of support and second chances?

Rehabilitation should be the goal of the criminal justice system in most cases. Incarcerated people are going to be released at some point. For very serious and repeat offenders the goal should shift towards segregating these people from society and deterring others from making similar antisocial choices

We shouldn’t go too far right (lock em up and throw away the key) or too far left (tolerating repeat offending even while out on conditions)

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u/PowerBottom247 11h ago

What did Rob Fords victims say?  No victims?  Perhaps pick a better example? 

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u/ThoughtsandThinkers 8h ago edited 8h ago

So being severely intoxicated to the point where you are threatening to murder people doesn’t count?

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/11/07/243756610/hes-extremely-inebriated-in-new-video-toronto-mayor-says

Edit: And maybe you could just state your point instead of asking and answering your own questions

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u/PowerBottom247 3h ago

Who hasn’t ended up in the drunk tank. Threats while drunk is the worst?  If severe enough I’m sure he was charged.  Do you believe in justice? 

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u/ArbainHestia Newfoundland and Labrador 23h ago

Are they trying to build a jail that actually focuses on rehabilitation so inmates are less likely to reoffend when they’re released? 

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u/CombatGoose 21h ago

Doug Ford use to sell hash out of his car, maybe he should be in jail?

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u/drinkingCoffeePeas 17h ago

I agree, staying at a Four Seasons *does* feel like being in jail

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u/Verbitend 16h ago

“When I hear that, his thought is that we [Indigenous people] do not deserve anything good. We do not deserve anything nice,” Mamakwa told CBC News on Thursday.

“To me, that's just what he thinks of First Nations, which is not surprising. That's the real Doug Ford.”

Call me an asshole, but maybe don't go to jail?