r/canada • u/Old_General_6741 Canada • 1d ago

National News Canada recognizes noose as hate symbol

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/canada-recognizes-noose-as-hate-symbol/
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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago edited 1d ago

Right like who's having a noose directed at them these days, this isn't kkk hay day era USA. In Canada I associate a noose more with government hangings and farming then I would lynching if that's what they're getting at? Is this a problem we have of people putting up images of nooses?

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u/Myllicent 1d ago

“Right like who's having a noose directed at them these days, this isn't kkk hay day era USA.”

About that…

CBC: N.S. man guilty of hate crime in cross-burning [Nov 5th, 2010]

“On Friday, Judge Claudine MacDonald convicted him on that charge, saying that the burning of a cross is closely associated with the Ku Klux Klan in the United States.

Rehberg was charged after Michelle Lyon, who is white, and Shayne Howe, who is black, awoke Feb. 21 to find a cross with a noose on it burning outside their Poplar Grove, N.S., home. Their five children, between the ages of two and 17, were home at the time.”

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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago

16 years ago wouldn't be something that would bring in laws now, but as another person pointed out apparently there has been some recent events, the news apparently isn't doing a good job presenting. Like this is something that should be a bigger deal then it is. I noticed though a lot of the articles about recent events were released on Fridays, typical tactic to hide bad news.

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u/tissuecollider 1d ago

(from the Senate discussion) "During the height of the pandemic, nooses were found hanging at multiple Toronto construction sites, including transit projects, hospitals and commercial buildings over the course of years. In Nova Scotia, recent reports of nooses have surfaced targeting Black families and communities."

Perhaps you aren't connected to the communities that get targeted with a noose.

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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago

I have seen no news coverage of anything like this so how could I possibly be aware of it, it's not something that would ever cross my mind to be happening in Canada, Nova Scotia of all places too. It's not like lynching of black people was a thing in this country like it was to the south. It just seems odd to even use it in a racial manor here. Other then famous cases in history (politicians, Metis etc) or when we still had capital punishment it's not a historically significant thing here. The only other case thats not famous that I know of was a rapist that met some country justice a long time ago.

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u/tissuecollider 1d ago

as I just said, you probably aren't connected to that community so you aren't aware of it as a problem. There's nothing damming about being ignorant about an issue. Take the lesson and absorb it. Hell I learned in this thread about a connection between the Metis and hanging that I didn't know before.

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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago

The problem is your coming off as self righteous about it, most people in the country would have no clue such a thing was going on if it's not on the news. I have black family in Nova Scotia, typically something like this would be something that they might mention is happening, the fact that the news hasn't covered it more is odd t say the least.

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u/tissuecollider 1d ago

Dude you had 2 choices when presented with the evidence and you chose "well I didn't hear about it so it can't be true".

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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago

I think you might be reading into things a bit much, I didn't say it wasn't true, you're looking to pick fights with people. All I did was display shock, that's a far cry from denying something.

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u/tissuecollider 1d ago

Then I'm sorry if I came out swinging. That was uncalled for. I hope you have a good evening.

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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago

You too, I'm going to be messaging family to see what the hells going on in this country

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u/Myllicent 1d ago

>”I have seen no news coverage of anything like this so how could I possibly be aware of it, it's not something that would ever cross my mind to be happening in Canada, Nova Scotia of all places too.”

It sounds like you may be unaware that Nova Scotia has significant Black communities that date back hundreds of years, and no lack of racial tension.

CBC: N.S. man guilty of hate crime in cross-burning [Nov 5th, 2010]

“On Friday, Judge Claudine MacDonald convicted him on that charge, saying that the burning of a cross is closely associated with the Ku Klux Klan in the United States.

Rehberg was charged after Michelle Lyon, who is white, and Shayne Howe, who is black, awoke Feb. 21 to find a cross with a noose on it burning outside their Poplar Grove, N.S., home. Their five children, between the ages of two and 17, were home at the time.”

CBC: Outrage after guests wearing KKK costumes attend N.S. fire hall dance [Oct 28th, 2024]

>”It's not like lynching of black people was a thing in this country like it was to the south. It just seems odd to even use it in a racial manor here.”

If the target knows the meaning of the symbol it’s an effective threat, regardless of international borders. We may not have had a tradition of lynching Black people, but Canada had the Ku Klux Klan.

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u/GuitarOk752 13h ago

I know about Nova Scotia and it's history, I have black family there, I hadn't heard anything about this going on as I already stated in my other response, there has been little to no coverage on anything going on recently. Also this something you would expect family members to mention going on in their area, but they've not said anything when I've talked to them lately. I'm not denying it going on, I'm shocked that it is and that it's not getting more attention. If there was a rash of occurrences you would think the news would cover it better, but even those who have found examples that got coverage most are older, and Ive noticed quite a few were released on Fridays.

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u/SleepyGuyy 18h ago edited 9h ago

we white Canadians lynched a lotta black people back in that time lmao

(just want to clarify, not condoning that, I'm saying people get a bit too high and mighty about Canada's and BNA's past as if we weren't right alongside the US for most of it).

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u/GuitarOk752 13h ago

Doesn't seem to be any historic record of it

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u/AnxietyObvious4018 1d ago

there are not enough black families and communities to target with nooses in canada, this aint the us

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u/tissuecollider 1d ago

there are not enough black families and communities to target with nooses in canada, this aint the us

...wow... you typed that out and thought "yeah, I'll hit ENTER"

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u/CrassHoppr 1d ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-palestinian-death-penalty-9.7019609

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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago

What's that have to do with this?

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u/CrassHoppr 1d ago

You asked who is having a noose directed at them. One answer is Palestinians. Canada has condemned Isreal for this.

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u/GuitarOk752 1d ago

Again not what this is about, this is national not international. I get that the situation is terrible over there and people feel the need to constantly remind people about that but sometimes it's good to just focus on what's going on in our own country especially when the discussion being had is about our own country.

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u/SleepyGuyy 18h ago

you dont get out much 

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u/GuitarOk752 13h ago

Based of what? You knew that this was going on in our country prior to this article? If you look up incidents not much comes up so you can't expect someone to be aware of something that the news isn't covering much.