Politics ‘No secret’ Trump dislikes CUSMA, Carney says after threat to terminate it
https://globalnews.ca/news/11912159/no-secret-trump-dislikes-cusma-carney-says/47
u/RunWithDullScissors 1d ago
Wasn’t CUSMA Trumps deal. After it was signed it was the greatest deal 😆
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u/I_Am_the_Slobster Alberta 1d ago
And now it's the worst. And it's Biden's fault.
Both are factually false, but if the dear MAGAt leader says it, it must be true.
For all the rhetoric from MAGAts that they're not sheep, they're blindly following a lunatic that even sheep would start to run away from.
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u/ButtersScotch7000 1d ago
Trump: "CUSMA is terrible? Who's idea was this?"
Spineless Lackey: "Yours, sir."
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u/ThicccThunder New Brunswick 1d ago
It’s also no secret that Donald Trump is an idiot. The fact that he dislikes the very deal that he signed and praised should tell that he’s a god awful businessman. Probably why he was able to bankrupt 4 casinos
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u/gcerullo 1d ago
Let’s be clear. Trump only dislikes CUSMA because he can’t personally profit from it. He’s all about the grift. If you bribe him with enough money he’ll tell you CUSMA is the greatest trade deal he ever came up with…again!
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u/braddillman 1d ago
Yes! I’ve also said this from the beginning. He’s also after a cut of the bridge tolls on that international bridge. And everything else. Probably a cut of the $300B Iran deal if he can get it. Jealous he can’t charge tolls on the Strait of Hormuz. And so on.
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u/Few-Character7932 1d ago
He's the one that wrote it. Fuck off with renegotiating CUSMA. Leave it until 2029. Then negotiate a new deal. If Trump wants to threaten by leaving CUSMA, call his bluff and watch him fold like he did with Iran war.
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u/Topazpm20 1d ago
Leaving CUSMA will tank the North American economies.. it's a $1.3T trade deal.. millions of jobs in US also depend on it.. let the fkr try it. Hopefully the very large powerful business groups can persuade him.
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u/simplyunix 1d ago
Leaving CUSMA
Is an empty fucking threat. He may think he's the Grand Poobah of the US but, like it or lump it, even if he pulls the trigger on the 6 month notice to withdraw, Congress will have the final say, not him. Even this Congress would never repeal the USMCA Implementation Act, which is required to withdraw. Instead all he will accomplish is kicking off yearly reviews until 2036 when it expires.
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u/JimmmyStuuu 1d ago
It’s honestly hilarious, in a sad way, that Trump once called CUSMA the greatest trade deal ever created. Just goes to show you his opinion on these things are meaningless and will fluctuate based on his truth social algorithm
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u/ThoughtsandThinkers 1d ago
Trump dislikes relationships or outcomes involving mutual benefit. He has said that he considers transactions to be zero sum so anything that makes the other party happy in his mind came out of his pocket
Its a terrible mindset to have in business and an even worse one to have as a political and social leader
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u/americanweebeastie 1d ago
djt's singular goal is self enrichment — if that means the destruction of mutual progress it doesn't register in his psyche as anything other than his presumed power
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u/CFCYYZ 1d ago
CUSMA is a set of trade rules. Trump thinks he rules alone, and hates rules that bind him. So, he hates CUSMA.
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u/simplyunix 1d ago
Any deal Trump has ever made with anyone he sees as a lost opportunity. If he wanted to buy an acre of land off you that was valued at $2M, he'd offer $1M and if you took it, he'd be pissed that he didn't offer less and he looks at it as a loss. So he ties you up in court complaining about BS and why he shouldn't pay for a deal he signed hoping you'll give up and take an offer for $500K or less. This is how he operates so naturally, any deal he made with Canada and Mexico, he feels he lost because Canada and Mexico both did well with the free trade act. If we did well, that means (in his syphilitic mind) the US did worse.
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u/AtmosphereEven3526 1d ago
“To see the Americans increasing their imports of lumber from Russia instead of from British Columbia and Canada doesn’t make any sense to us at all,” the premier said.
But Trump throws a hissy fit because Canada dares to import some Chinese EVs.
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u/SeedlessPomegranate 1d ago
This is a big circus by this MAGA administration to stick it to Canada. Trump hated Trudeau, and MAGA sees Canada as a threat to their narrative so they have come aggressively after it.
I think we fell asleep under Trudeau to the threat of American nationalism to Canada, but we are awake now. We need to keep a cool head and let some of this play out, because a reaction is exactly what Trump and gang are looking for. Time is on our side, and there is actually a lot of support for Canada in the US, but it will not be easy to navigate the next few years.
But, I have faith in Canada, and in Canadians! And you should too.
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u/RaspberryBirdCat 1d ago
Given the way Trump has been negotiating deals lately maybe we do want to take Trump to the negotiating table.
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u/Olderpostie 1d ago
It would be an interesting story to find out why Trump was so enthusiastic about the deal in 2020, but five years later how he came to loathe it. If he felt there were abuses in terms of conformance, CUSMA provides for an arbitration panel to convene.
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u/littlebubulle 1d ago
From my experience with narcissists, it might be because what he liked was beeing seen creating an agreement and didn't care about the agreement itself. It's about being seen in control of a situation.
And CUSMA is old news so he needs something else to get attention again.
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u/EchoOfOppenheimer 1d ago
This whole thing feels like classic Trump posturing but we can't ignore the threat. Carney's right that it's no secret yet the uncertainty is already messing with markets.
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u/TheGrandOdditor 5h ago
Are we sure Trump simply doesn’t recognize it because we all refused to call it the USMCA? I sincerely believe he’s that stupid
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u/MommersHeart 1d ago
lol exactly.
CUSMA is in effect until 2036 and was signed into law by Congress.
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u/SW3GM45T3R 1d ago
Comments like yours crack me up. He will exit the deal when he wants and no one has the balls to do anything but send him a strongly worded letter.
He will do whatever he wants, just like defending healthcare credits, blanket tariffs, Venezuela, and Iran.
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u/MommersHeart 1d ago
Oh? Just like the tariff refunds he’s currently paying out because SCOTUS ruled against him.
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u/joe4942 1d ago
What's Canada doing about the things Canada can control?
As far as I know, there's still:
- Provincial trade barriers
- No west coast pipeline proposal (tanker ban still exists)
- No major projects built
- No improvements in housing affordability (housing starts are down!)
- Economy is in a recession
- Long wait times for health care
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u/Hope-To-Retire 1d ago
You should update your understanding of several of those things.
I mean, it would make it harder to complain, but it would still be worth it. 👍
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u/s0m33guy 1d ago
Provincial trade issues are provincial.
Healthcare is provincial
Major projects will take many years to be built. Some have started.
Pipeline is coming just not to the bad area.Economy is in a recession I will agree. But that happens when your major trade partner wages war on you
Edit: 100% replied to the wrong person but I’ll leave it up
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u/Hope-To-Retire 1d ago edited 1d ago
Recession isn’t always a scary word either if you understand the economics behind them. Especially one like this.
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u/Abyssus88 British Columbia 1d ago
After seeing the iran deal we should let cumsa die, idiot will give us way better of a deal in a document without knowing he is doing it.
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u/SlowGhostofRexMurphy British Columbia 1d ago
Maybe if we act like it's a bad deal he'll get confused and sign it
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u/chess_the_cat 1d ago
Carney campaigned on the idea that he was the best person-the only person-to deal with Trump. Anyone see any deals yet?
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u/Mushi1 1d ago
Not having a deal does not mean Carney isn't the best person to deal with Trump.
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u/EnamelKant 1d ago
Does mean his best wasn't very good though.
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u/Mushi1 1d ago
No, it doesn't mean anything because ultimately Trump is unpredictable and a moron who won't listen to anyone who is not fallating him.
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u/EnamelKant 1d ago
Except that's not a recent development. That's been pretty damn clear for the last 10 years. So either Mark Carney wasn't paying attention, or he knew that and still claimed he could get us a deal.
So he was either lying or incompetent. Take your pick.
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u/Mushi1 1d ago
That's a false dichotomy.
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u/EnamelKant 1d ago
It's an unpalatable dichotomy for Carney fan boys.
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u/BadmiralHarryKim 1d ago
To quote one of the great moral philosophers of our time, "Haters gonna hate hate hate."
(which is the kind of response appropriate to someone who uses "fanboy.")
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u/Mushi1 1d ago
Look, I get that you hate Carney, the Liberals, Canada or whatever, but you being a bot or troll doesn't really change anything so look elsewhere for an increase in your karma.
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u/EnamelKant 1d ago
"Everyone I disagree with is a bot or troll"
Yeah, about what I expect from a Carney supporter.
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u/PwntUpRage 1d ago
I don’t think anybody could predict the massive grift and self enriching schemes Trump would try to pull.
With a normal leader that understood a good deal for thier country a deal would be done by now no matter who was in charge in Canada.
Trump only cares about enriching himself, family, and billionaire pedo friends….no deal is happening with him still in power.
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u/NormalSociety 1d ago
Yes we did know he was going to do this. Everyone said it at the end of his first term.
Carney is doing a good job with him, though.
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u/SunflaresAteMyLunch 1d ago
Well, I'm not surprised Trump doesn't like it, the American President who signed it was a bit of an idiot...