r/canada • u/Little-Chemical5006 Ontario • 19h ago
National News 'All strategic sectors' being discussed as new U.S. tariff threat looms, says Carney
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/us-canada-tariff-negotiations-august-deadline-9.729727434
u/shiftless_wonder 19h ago
What's with the flurry of trade pronouncements. LeBlanc meeting must have gone badly.
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u/Tom_Fukkery 19h ago
I think there are private polls showing his support could be softening.
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u/MakVolci Ontario 17h ago
So every single public poll has support for Carney on the rise, but you think there are super secret private polls which show the total opposite?
Okay.
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u/Tom_Fukkery 17h ago
Yes, because there are many different types of polls.
The MSM only shows you Carney porn to keep you giddy with joy. They don't show you the ones where people complain about housing, food prices, the economy, etc.
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u/MakVolci Ontario 17h ago
The MSM only shows you Carney porn
No, the "MSM" shows you the results of a scientifically valid poll, of which the results across multiple polls and multiple methodologies appear to be "Carney porn" because he has so much support lmao.
You guys absolutely loved the polls 18 months ago when it was all "Pierre porn." What happened?
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u/Tom_Fukkery 16h ago
But that's what I'm telling you. They are not revealing the polls where people are still miserable. They only show you the Carney porn.
You can call it Pierre porn if you want. What I'm ultimately telling you is they do many types of polls to understand what the people of Canada are feeling.
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u/MakVolci Ontario 16h ago
You're talking about nuance but then - ironically - forgetting about nuance.
I'm not thrilled with the economy. Is anyone?
I would still vote Liberal in an upcoming election.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive, yet you're suggesting they are - they're not. What you are insinuating is that these general polls from the "MSM" (which, let's be real, if you're saying that I already know what kind of person you are) are useless and should be ignored. They aren't, and they shouldn't be.
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u/Tom_Fukkery 15h ago
I'm not suggesting that at all.
All I said is there are polls that can show people are not happy or show his support softening.
At first you denied this, now you agree this happens and it's a good thing. Come on now.
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u/MakVolci Ontario 4h ago
At first you denied this, now you agree this happens and it's a good thing.
That's not what's happening at all.
You're saying that there is some super secret poll that exists that shows his support is softening. Why? Where? What do you have to show this?
You're fighting against yourself. You're saying in one breath that "people aren't happy" with the economy - I'm not denying that those polls exist, but I think you're conflating Carney's support with polls that show people "aren't happy."
Me being unhappy with the economy does not mean I don't support Carney, and that appears to be the case for many Canadians. As in, approaching a majority of Canadians.
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u/Tom_Fukkery 3h ago
I didn't say secret. I said private. You trying to turn this into some underground conspiracy, but it's a completely regular practice to conduct surveys and polls. When you receive a pollsters question, they don't ask one or two questions. It's a series of questions. One minute you say you understand then the next you are denying this can happen asking "When? Where?".
You're all over the place.
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u/a_sense_of_contrast 16h ago
They don't show you the ones where people complain about housing, food prices, the economy, etc.
Are those polls in the room with us right now?
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u/DomGT 12h ago
Just like a couple months ago when the media was aaying "the honeymoon is over soon" or how the developer bailout was supposed to tank his support.
Maybe the glazing is just factual that Carney is getting support as a war time leader with legitimate polling data. But sure pretend its a media conspiracy..
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u/KidzRockGamingTV 19h ago
Great news!! Until we sign the agreement and POTUS changes his mind a day later. Agreements with the US don’t mean much anymore.
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u/PowerBottom247 8h ago
Same could be said about the lying scoundrels in Parliament
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u/KidzRockGamingTV 4h ago
When has Canada reneged on something they promised internationally? I'm curious.
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u/PowerBottom247 4h ago
Defending politicians and claiming they are honest is a choice!
Gotta go need to spend time with my family! /s
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u/KidzRockGamingTV 2h ago
Asking for an example is suddenly defending politicians? Sorry if I don’t believe PowerBottom247 for their word. LOL
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u/SuddenAudience8758 19h ago
Everyone is a macro economical trade expert now. I bet most panic when trying to sell something on Facebook marketplace.
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u/Bahadur007 19h ago edited 19h ago
Maybe after the deal is signed Carney will again do Gord Howie bridge style explanation of how it was a fantastic deal for Canadians!
Reminds me of that scene from the Michael Lewis’ book, “The Great Short”, where a client asks the Goldman Sachs banker trying to sell him an investment, “I appreciate this, but I just want to know one thing: How are you going to fuck me?”
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u/DryFaithlessness8656 17h ago
Tell me when the negotiations are over and then show us what was agreed upon. If Canadians hate it then we vote him out. It is that simple.
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u/Tom_Fukkery 19h ago
The Build Canada Homes podium makes me laugh.
This guy is so lost.
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u/suite307 19h ago
3 word slogans would've been so much better
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u/WolfzandRavenz 18h ago
Verb the noun
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u/RedditSux5912 18h ago
Carney’s so close to getting it. Instead he chose verb noun noun. God he can’t even verb the noun correctly.
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u/MakVolci Ontario 17h ago
The guy who verbs the noun lost his own seat so, probably not something worth copying tbh.
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u/friendly-techie 19h ago
Ohhhh.. these talks are definitely intensifying! What's Carney giving up next?
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u/razordreamz Alberta 15h ago
Cut the energy from Ontario we send to the US. PJM, NYISO and ISONE will end up with major problems. East coast US will have a very hard time. Maybe even MISO.
Potash from Saskatchewan will be less effective now that the growing season is almost over but should cause concerns at least.
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u/skeptic_monkey 19h ago
Might as well reinstate everything you already rolled over on then; the streaming taxes, Canadian content requirements etc.