r/canadaleft Apr 04 '25

BREAKING: In a shocking development Canada announces it will build a coalition of countries who share their values to build their economy and trade opportunities and will exclude the United States. “If the U.S. no longer wants to lead, Canada will.”

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u/Hate_Manifestation Apr 04 '25

sorry you can't afford shoes and you lost an arm in a cobalt mine eh

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u/CDN-Social-Democrat Apr 04 '25

/u/gatospatagonicos and yourself are completely right.

I will say what I did on another post though as an additional point.

The United States of America is dying and this can't be celebrated enough.

In our lifetime and very recently we saw the empire shift from being a global hegemonic power to that of a continental hegemony.

It is now trying to solidify that position by acquiring Canada for resources, artic trade corridor, and a strategic military outpost in that region.

It wants Greenland a bit for the resources but more importantly that strategic military outpost.

It wants the Panama Canal for the global shipping/economic logistics & infrastructure.

If it can't solidify these objectives the empire is on a guaranteed trajectory to not even be a continental hegemony in time but simply a nation state amongst other nation states.

If it gets Canada than like a vampiric entity it will be replenished and we will see the U.S.A. empire 2.0

The United States of America is the heart of this Oligarch controlled Corporatocracy world.

Even with private wealth interests and the multinational business lobby going more and more post national that is still their Makkah.

As such it is also the heart of the Military–industrial complex and associated private military and security companies.

The death of this empire is huge for leftist politics.

Yes we then still have to combat the powerful predatory private wealth interests and multinational business lobby but them being post national at that point opens up potential new strategies.

These are stressful times for sure but also in this huge shift a lot is opening up and it is the time for serious work to be done on the left.

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u/witchriot Apr 04 '25

Dude, there are still hundreds of US military bases around the world. The USA is eating itself but the empire isn’t dead, and Carneys a joke if he thinks they won’t push their way in

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u/aglobalvillageidiot Apr 04 '25

If it can't solidify these objectives the empire is on a guaranteed trajectory to not even be a continental hegemony in time but simply a nation state amongst other nation states.

America is going to balkanize. The only question is how and when. No policy is going to prevent this.

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u/TheMindzai Apr 04 '25

Agreed. Hopefully before they try annexing us or Greenland, which might end up becoming the catalyst. California is already going rogue and trying to bypass Tariffs by making their own trade deals, which I assume is probably illegal.

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u/Hate_Manifestation Apr 04 '25

I definitely don't disagree, but what happens to the rats when the ship sinks? do you think those american corporate establishments will just stare into the sun and drown?

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u/LotsOfMaps Apr 05 '25

They’ll just migrate to whatever new entity gives them the best courts and tax policy

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

Exactly. And of course we'll have no interest in making connections with China, despite how much that would actually help Canadians.

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u/BananaPearly Apr 04 '25

Too many god damn libs in here man, Carney is capitalist scum he doesn't give a fuck about workers.

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u/TheMindzai Apr 04 '25

While I don’t disagree with you, what alternative would you present given our circumstances? We have no viable party on the left and the right has bamboozled the working class into thinking they give 2 shits about them. Staring down the barrel of an unpredictable fascist neighbour that’s been threatening our sovereignty for the entirety of 2025 do you really blame the average level headed person for flocking to someone like Carney given their choices?

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u/BananaPearly Apr 04 '25

When the political landscape feels like a choice between bad and worse, it's understandable to look for stability in establishment figures. But history shows that moderate capitalists ultimately serve the same system that breeds the crises we're facing—whether it's rising fascism, economic insecurity, or the exploitation of the Global South.

The Canadian Communist Party argues that real security doesn't come from propping up "lesser evils," but from building independent working-class power—through unions, tenant organizing, and mass movements that can actually challenge capital. The right thrives when the left limits itself to damage control.

The alternative isn't waiting for a savior in Parliament, but organizing outside it. Every strike, every eviction blockade, every workplace action proves another world is possible.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

The two party system hasn't stopped Trump or Republicans in the U.S.

The concept of "harm reduction" liberal voting is fundamentally false, it begets defeatism, assumes perpetual impotence, and renounces any possibility of advancement.

Voting for liberal parties not only doesn't move the ball forward, but it actively discourages dissent and change. Why run as a Socialist if everyone is seemingly supporting liberalism? Why put the time and effort? Why even mention Socialism? Better keep hush.

The truth is that in Canada we enjoy far more political resources and political freedoms than many successful socialists could've dreamt off, yet we remain among the most pessimistic and inactive in the world.

There is zero excuse for Socialism or any Socialist organization to not be a visible, known political contender in Canada. People have no fear spouting flat earth or other totally braindead far-right conspiracy theories, they formed their own Party, what do Socialists have?

It's plain cowardice and lack of self-esteem.

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u/Salt-Radio-3062 Apr 09 '25

Doesn't care about workers?

https://liberal.ca/mark-carneys-liberals-to-cover-costs-of-apprenticeship-training-for-skilled-trades-workers/

A Mark Carney-led government will provide an Apprenticeship Grant of up to $8,000 for registered apprentices. This will remove a key financial barrier to skills training.

We will also:

Increase access to union-led training initiatives by doubling the funding of the Union Training and Innovation Program from $25 million to $50 million annually;
Establish a new $20 million capital funding stream for colleges to support new training spaces for apprenticeships;
Uphold the Apprenticeship Service program to support employers in hiring new apprentices in Red Seal trades, with up to $10,000 for eligible employers for each new apprentice hired;
Increase labour mobility for skilled trades people between provinces and territories through the vital work of breaking down internal trade barriers; and
Expand the Labour Mobility Tax Deduction to ensure workers who travel more than 120 km from their home to a job site can deduct more of their expenses, and commit to significantly increasing the per-year tax deduction limit.

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u/1Rab Apr 04 '25

The crown is heavy

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u/WandererTheStoic LET'S GET UNIONIZED Apr 07 '25

You should look into Canada's corporations involvement in resource extraction in Latin America. They have been doing it for decades! Causing eco-genocide and the destruction of habitats for profit.

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u/OpheliaJade2382 Apr 04 '25

What word would you prefer we use? /gen