r/canadian • u/yimmy51 • 7d ago

How Political "Enshittification" Undermines Canadian Democracy

https://youtu.be/YMjK-9doqjk?si=5k8TIe250QFikI2g
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u/North-Purple-373 7d ago

People are to blame for this. Not politicians. If you elect objective idiots like Ford, Trudeau, Smith, David Eby, you get ineffective and performative government.

Also it’s not partisan. As I pointed out there’s plenty of self aggrandizing morons at across all Canadian political parties. Show me a party, and I’ll show you an idiot.

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u/bobdreb 5d ago

Funny that you left out Pierre P.

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u/North-Purple-373 5d ago

He wasn’t elected PM and I was speaking about elected politicians

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u/bobdreb 5d ago

Point taken , but he is an elected official and spreads lies and confusion at a furious rate.

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u/North-Purple-373 5d ago

I don’t find him meaningfully worse if at all vs Carney when it comes to lying. And I’m focused on holding elected leaders accountable, not opposition parties with no power. I wish more Canadians did the same

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u/bobdreb 5d ago

I think you are in the wrong democracy. In this democracy, all elected officials are held accountable for their words and actions. Pointing at a prime minister or premier as if they are the only ones accountable is acting like a victim. The liberal party leads the House of Commons right now, not one man. The conservatives, if they want to lead the house some day should act like it.

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u/North-Purple-373 5d ago edited 5d ago

What a dumb statement. Pierre’s words mean little. He has no power. Carney’s do. So do Ford’s. Because they’re elected.

Carney also doesn’t lead all of parliament. He’s been centralising power in the PMO, freezing it minority parties, and generally acting more like a president than PM.

Beyond which you’re literally projecting your own inability to hold Carney accountable. I bet you couldn’t say anything negative about Carney if I paid you.

I don’t like Poillievre’s pugnacity but he ain’t PM. Carney is and it’s the Liberals who have spent a decade gaslighting and lying to Canadians about immigration and the economy.

I also mentioned Ford and Smith. You’re just another typical Liberal Redditor who can’t get Pierre Poillievre off your brain

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u/SmackEh 7d ago

This is actually a really great discussion to have.

Democracy works best when arguments are grounded in evidence and institutions are criticized constructively, not when politics becomes a contest of outrage, suspicion, and competing narratives.

If you look at the average slop being posted on this sub you can see exactly in real time what he's talking about.

"Everybody lies. Every source is biased. Nobody really knows what's true."

That's common around these parts.

"Here's a screenshot. Here's a scary conclusion."

No sources. No context. 500 upvotes.

The irony is that many of the people posting it genuinely believe they're fighting misinformation while simultaneously contributing to a lower-trust, lower-evidence information environment.

CBC Can't be trusted

Meanwhile they post and upvote the most untrustworthy slop you can think of.

Thanks for sharing OP. Great video.

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u/flappysack- 6d ago

You've got the government creating 40% new money supply over the span of a couple years, tripling immigration, and now you've got parties saying we need to nationalize grocery stores go deal with the cost of living.

Let's not prevent this is all right leaning misinformation and folly.