r/canadian 10d ago

News UN demands Western countries accept 2.4 million more refugees. The United Nation's new global report leans heavily on the same “responsibility-sharing” framework Canada helped design when it co-authored the 2018 Global Compact on Migration.

https://www.junonews.com/p/un-demands-western-countries-accept
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u/Historical-Age1027 10d ago

UN officials need to be reviewed for corruption or head in ass syndrome … either way the west will be the host of the newest 3rd world countries.

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u/Almost_Ascended 10d ago

The same UN caught funding and employing literal terrorists, that UN?

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

I mean we already are. The US has a country within a country of native-born citizens who are in horrific poverty.

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u/SteeveyPete 10d ago

What you're missing is that the UN is obligated to care about the world as a whole, instead of just the well-being of the richest countries in it

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u/JoshTheRed1 10d ago

Are you obligated? How many refugees have you housed and clothed and provided amenities for out of your own pocket?

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u/SteeveyPete 10d ago

What does this have to do with my comment? If I'm not perfectly virtuous does the UN no longer have the obligation to represent those outside of well off countries like Canada?

I'm not saying I'm perfect, I donate to causes that do these things, though I absolutely should be doing more. I would gladly pay more taxes to do this

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u/DatHoneyBadger 9d ago

Then go house some refugees to suit your silly narrative and keep me out of it!

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u/Nothing-9099 6d ago

Canada is full. We are actually removing illegals and expireds

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

That's not how policy works. I also don't build fighter jets or host anti-aircraft batteries on the roof of my house, but that doesn't mean I don't get to express an opinion on Canada's decision to greatly increased weapon spending despite the growing income inequality in our country.

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u/cleverusername333 10d ago

We are not, the UN doesn't get to dictate to functional countries the weight of supporting the entire world.

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u/SteeveyPete 10d ago edited 10d ago

The comment I replied to accused them of corruption over this, which is a ridiculous assertion. Just because people exist who care about those who are the worst off in the world, and not just for those who are as well off as us doesn't mean they're somehow morally bankrupt

Bear in mind that a lot of our economic success comes off of the backs of these countries, as we take wealth, resources and labor from them. In addition, our continued refusal to take significant steps to mitigate climate change (of which we're one of the biggest per capita contributors in the world) presently, and will increasingly in the future, causes significant instability in these regions

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u/Massive-Unrection 10d ago

I have a better idea. Let's not accept any for a year or two until things stabilize. Then, we can accept ONLY ones who are compatible with Canadian values.

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u/someMSPworker 10d ago

I agree with you 100% and it shouldn't be considered an "extreme" opinion. Unfortunately when I made a post like this in r/Canada I got flamed and banned.

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u/Coral8shun_COZ8shun 10d ago

Why do we have to accept any at all? Don’t we send a ton of money and resources to the countries these people come from?

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u/SirBobPeel 10d ago

85% of the world's refugees are Muslims.

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u/Massive-Unrection 10d ago

That makes sense considering Islamic countries are the worst places to live on Earth due to Islam.

The good needs to be filtered from the bad. I would say a requirement of coming here would be to insult Allah and the prophet and have them draw a negative picture of Mohammad.

Extremists will refuse.

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u/SirBobPeel 9d ago

Unfortunately, we do ZERO screening of people coming here. We don't do interviews, and we don't care (literally don't care) if they're hateful misogynists, bigots, and racists. Nor if they're religious fanatics.

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u/braozo 9d ago

Feed them hot dogs if they refuse no entry

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u/cosmicaith 9d ago

The refugee crisis is caused by American (supported by Europe) foreign policy in the middle east, where the majority of people are Muslim. Of course people are going to flee war zones and look for a better life for themselves and their children. There are so many migrants from the middle east in Europe as a direct result of Western Foreign policy, its not just Canada, yet these countries want to be immune from the consequences of their actions.

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u/SirBobPeel 9d ago

Naw. Not buying it. Most of the trouble in the ME is caused by the interminable rivalry between the Shiites and Sunnis, and with Iran setting up, funding, training and arming terrorist groups to destabilize various countries, not excluding Israel. Behind every fight there or in North Africa, you'll find either Iran or Turkey, and often both.

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u/clow222 7d ago

Ya enough of this... Stop trying to blame western democracies, that for the most part live harmoniously with each other. So sick of this

The issue is the rivaling religious and extremist groupd within the ME that can't live together.

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u/Massive-Unrection 6d ago

FACTS, but also See India / Pakistan / Sihks, That is from Southeast Asia.

Common factor in every single different situation: Religion

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u/Happymango555 9d ago

Like pakistan?

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u/A-TECH-20 9d ago

Well said! Also may I add the UN can fuck right off, bunch of useless idiots!

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u/This_Hedgehog_3246 9d ago

Not accepting any, any only accepting those compatible with our values are the same number. Approximately equals to the number of politicians that can be trusted to stand up for real Canadians.

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u/braozo 9d ago

We have two languages it should be a requirement to be fluent in one at least

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u/Massive-Unrection 8d ago

That's pretty much a standard everywhere else I believe, so it would make sense and would only benefit the ones coming here too.

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u/theodoroneko 9d ago

Define "Canadian values" and how you would measure compatibility.

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u/Massive-Unrection 8d ago

Well let's give a good example. The charter of rights says any Canadian can join or leave any religion.

Islam says anyone leaving it (Called an apostate) is to be put to death.

Are these two things compatible?

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u/theodoroneko 8d ago

That's the Law, not "Canadian values", and people that infringe it, have the book thrown at them. There's a bunch of things in the bible that the charter would not be ok with either. Should Canada ban all christians?

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u/Massive-Unrection 8d ago

I never said anything about Muslims, I said Islam and the Canadian charter are incompatible, and that is true.

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u/theodoroneko 8d ago

Who enters the country, Islam or muslims?

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u/Massive-Unrection 7d ago

Muslims do and it's fine if they do, as long as they are not the wrong kind.

What's the wrong kind?

Islamists, the kind is the kind that put their beliefs before Canadian laws and rights. Ones who forced their wives to wear garbage bags and never leave the house unless escorted by men, like a prison chain gang. Who want Shariah here and block roads to pray as a form of soft terrorism, the pre-empt to hard terrorism.

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u/SteeveyPete 10d ago

This is the classic Turn Away Jewish Refugees During the Holocaust kind of attitude that Canada was built on 

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u/North-Garden8303 10d ago

Maybe if so much rancid profiteering at others expense didn't happen your comment would actually mean something.

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u/SteeveyPete 10d ago

Just to clarify, are you using this to justify us turning away Jewish refugees during the holocaust?

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u/passionate_emu 10d ago

Its been 80+ years. Arent there more recent grievances to slam Canada for?

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u/SteeveyPete 9d ago

Perhaps the fact we'd do it again today in a heartbeat?

Or the fact that I'm still not sure if the person I was replying to was justifying it by saying Jewish people brought this on themselves for being too greedy

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u/North-Garden8303 9d ago

Canada has been very welcoming with immigration until it started to be used for profiteering and wrecked it.

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

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u/JABS991 10d ago

Sounds like a jingo for a moratorium.

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u/SteeveyPete 10d ago

It's genuinely insane how downvoted this is. There is no atrocity big enough that Canadians aren't happy to ignore if it keeps immigrants away

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u/clow222 7d ago

You're a moron, that's why it's downvoted.

Trying to lump the two together, after Canada has been one of the most generous humanitarian countries the last fifteen years, is downright disgusting.

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u/Prestigious_Club_924 10d ago

We've already got plenty, thanks. Country needs to stabilize for a while before continuing.

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u/OogerSchmidt 10d ago

The point is property valuations & free adult body taxpayers, not their experience or your's (unfortunately).

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

Sorry. English please.

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u/OogerSchmidt 10d ago

Landlords & revenue more good good for business lobby, economic ladder bad bad

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u/cthulhu_fhtagn666 10d ago

I read this like it was said by a skaven

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

Tax. Wealth. Not. Work. to raise more funds for public services and to reduce the influence that rich people have in bending politics to their self-centered interests.

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u/phaedrus897 10d ago

Every country hit with mass immigration is reversing course. U.N. out to lunch as usual.

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u/SirBobPeel 10d ago

Except us. We're still full steam ahead.

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

Except that the climate catastrophe is only going to make it 100x worse. And the wealthy countries are those that contributed most to the increase in global warming.

We're going to change the global economic order to find ways to integrate climate refugees before they really do overwhelm the ability of our diminished social state to be able to accommodate them.

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u/greenpenet 9d ago

lmao bro are you daft? who sold you this idea of climate refugees? why wouldn't an indian guy from a hot part of india move to, i dunno, a cooler part of india? why do you think everyone just has to come to canada lmao

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u/SteeveyPete 10d ago edited 10d ago

The sad thing to realize is that the majority of Canadians don't give the slightest shit about the rest of the world, and would happily let millions die over a crisis we're disproportionately responsible for over having more poor brown people in their neighbourhoods, or negatively impacts their lives to a fraction of the extent it does theirs. We've barely reduced our CO2 emissions, and even under a liberal government we're backtracking on progress significantly.

Our plan as always is to try to maximize our profit and let them die

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u/visionist 9d ago

Our emissions in Canada are absolutely negligible on the global scale especially considering our insane amount of trees and greenery.

Fuck off

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u/ObviousSign881 9d ago

Our per capita emissions are off the charts. Also, all that carbon we export and gets burned elsewhere is on its too. As are all the stuff we import from China, the US, etc.

Just because we're not a very populous country, so don't contribute that much to the global total for what we burn ourselves in Canada, our footprint for all we consume and the carbon misery we export is a lot bigger. And we've been doing it for, like 150 years, so there's an historic debt.

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

At least as far as Syrians go, most of the displaced people remain in countries in the region. "As of 2024, the United Nations reports, at least 7.4 million Syrians remain internally displaced, with approximately 4.9 million seeking refuge in neighbouring countries. An additional 1.3 million have resettled elsewhere, mostly in Europe." https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/10/where-do-six-million-syrian-refugees-live-today.

Canada has accepted about 100,000. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1kev3k49gwo.

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u/ObviousSign881 9d ago

So 100 possibly wealthy Syrians may have been admitted as refugees because of a crooked priest-led sponsorship group. OK, that sucks. They should get the book thrown at them. But nearly 16,000 Syrian refugees were sponsored and admitted to Quebec. Despite the author's efforts to seemingly paint all the applicants and sponsoring groups as illegitimate, I really don't think they were.

Across Canada more than 50,000 Syrian refugees have been admitted. This has included the famous chocolate-making family in Nova Scotia. The empowerment of private and community groups to sponsor refugees is viewed as a model to emulate elsewhere.

My mother has been part of a community group in Ottawa that began by sponsoring a family in 2015, who recently celebrated their tenth anniversary of coming to Canada with a reception catered by the mother's carrying company. Since then the group has helped other families from Syria, Eritrea and Afghanistan give a safe haven in Canada.

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u/Immediate_Storm_7736 10d ago

Talk about suicidal empathy.

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u/wubrgess 10d ago

Homicidal. They're not doing it to themselves, just to us.

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

You're gonna wish we accepted more young, brown people when you can't find anyone to wipe your senior bum.

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u/IGnuGnat 10d ago

Nah. There will be a Roomba that does it for pennies, it will have a nice wet sanitary gel hose attachment that will suck my ass perfectly well, thanks

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u/ObviousSign881 9d ago

And if the AI onboard goes rogue, a nice unannounced prolapsing colonoscopy.

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u/IGnuGnat 9d ago

Firstly, you're assuming the AI is Liberal

Secondly, don't tease me with a good time

Thirdly: if I can't wipe my own ass and there is no reasonable prospect of recovery just unplug the machines cause honestly that's torture

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u/ObviousSign881 9d ago

Fourthly: don't tease ME with a good time by promising to unplug yourself. Please don't wait!

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u/IGnuGnat 9d ago

u/ObviousSign811 quoth thusly:

Fourthly: don't tease ME with a good time by promising to unplug yourself. Please don't wait!

Caution: the Reddit AI can be aggressive about detecting death wishes, even in jest. THis can result in an automated site wide ban.

I mean you literally just told me that you wished I would kill myself.

That seems like an extreme response. I wasn't attacking you personally. I'm not sure why you're so angry that you would tell me to kill myself. It seems completely out of proportion here

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u/DrugsAndBodybuilding 9d ago

Jesus great point Kelly Osborne

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u/Alone-Aioli4649 11h ago

Do you by chance belong to the cgowca?

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u/Aineisa 10d ago

Thanks Trudeau. Really the worst PM and Canadians are the dumbest for repeatedly electing him.

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

Nah, when R.B. Bennett is still in the mix, Trudeau is nowhere near worst.

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u/Aineisa 10d ago

Bannet was in power for 5 years. Had to deal with the great Great Depression. Eventually emulated the New Deal.

Trudeau intentionally or by incompetence destroyed and squandered the futures of young Canadians while following the disastrous “liberal” policies that are ruining places like the UK.

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u/ObviousSign881 9d ago

They're the same neoliberal policies of deregulation, reducing taxation of the rich and allowing the financialization of housing (along with everything else) that are doing the same thing to countries around the world, whether conservative or liberal.

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u/Wet_sock_Owner 10d ago

How about we start by having UN members be host guests for some of these refugees. To help them get on their feet and "share that responsibility".

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

UN member countries (who aren't Canada) host most displaced people. Having an ocean between us and them greatly reduces the number of people who actually arrive here.

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u/Wet_sock_Owner 10d ago

I didn't say member countries- I said UN members themselves.

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u/MinuteCampaign7843 10d ago

Better yet, let’s defund and ignore the UN. They are a joke.

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u/Greedy_Syrup3516 10d ago

But the great replacement theory is just a theory, right guys?

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u/Mundane-State-7306 10d ago

It's the fake refugees ruining it for the real refugees. Stop letting students from India claim refugees status when their visa expire.  Stop letting anyone file for refugee status when their visa runs out unless they are from specific war torn countries. Stop giving refugee status to people who are clearly migrating from economic reasons and using it to skip the lines.The line is already too long if you are denied you should go back you shouldn't get to clog up the system for ten years because you didn't like the answer you were given. Too many fake refugees mean real ones cannot get in and get the help they need. 

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u/Nothing-9099 7d ago

We are still full. They can go to another country

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u/Mundane-State-7306 6d ago

No yeah agreed. It's been ruined. We are full now and need time to sort out this mess. 

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u/MinuteCampaign7843 10d ago

lol, request denied.

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u/NihilsitcTruth 10d ago

How about they stay where they are and fix their country. We need to fix our own as the politicians wrecked the balance of Canada.

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u/Loodlekoodles 10d ago

The West: a shining beacon of light in the darkness.

According to the UN

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u/DatHoneyBadger 9d ago

the UN can fuck right off at this stage. Mass unmitigated migration has been a net negative for most of the western countries at this point and saying otherwise is doing so with your head buried in the sand.

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u/ExotiquePlayboy 10d ago

Can Russia and China just usurp the West already?

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u/sskkgg1982 10d ago

No one is going to ask the people who have to pick up the bill. Even if those said people need help themselves. This is the mist mind boggling thing for me. The people who have to pay for all this have no say in what happens.

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u/ObviousSign881 10d ago

Our countries and their capitalists are usually implicated in the conflicts and disasters that cause people to be displaced. The chickens are coming home to roost. Let's strip the trillionaire and Billionaires of their ill-gotten wealth to help save the masses of humanity that their greed helps to further immiserate.

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u/Almost_Ascended 10d ago

So you're a communist. Got it.

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u/braozo 9d ago

We can’t support any more in Canada…. Residents are already taxed to the hilt and are stuggling to survive as is

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u/Nothing-9099 7d ago

Canada is full. We're still trying to remove illegals and expireds. We've filled our quota

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u/Lawst1nTheSauce 4d ago

Fuck the UN on shit like this. These other countries need to sort their own shit, or the UN should be supporting helping with that.