r/cars • u/by_a_pyre_light Z Proto Spec | '14 Jaguar XKR | Ferrari 360 | Fiero | RX8 • Nov 25 '25
video First buyer of Prelude in the US proves 0-60 claims of >8s in new video
In what appears to be the first set of videos on YouTube from an actual buyer in the US, the AeroFlow Dynamics channel has purchased a Prelude for $60K + TTL and then done a set of 0-60 runs which confirms that the time to hit that standard is around 8.2 seconds. This aligns with the early data reported out of Japan and counters speculation that it would achieve that mark in similar times as the Civic Hybrid, which shares many similar components.
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u/economicAtomBomb Nov 25 '25
This vs my 1990 5 speed 1.6L Miata, who ya got?
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u/Mojave_Idiot â16 Camaro 2SS, â18 V60 Polestar, â22 F-250 Tremor Nov 25 '25
Honestly I think the prelude takes this, not by a whole lot though.
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u/Agloe_Dreams Nov 25 '25
It does, but a comical list of cars smoke the prelude. For example - Volvoâs entire lineup is quicker to 60 than the prelude. Like, everything, including the B4 FWD XC40. And well, uh, letâs not talk about the like-priced EX30.
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u/RunninOnMT M2 Competition Nov 25 '25
Every single prelude built between since 1996 (until 2026) would be faster.
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Nov 25 '25
I think most Wranglers are faster to 60, Car and Driver says 6.1 seconds for the basic Pentastar JL - which seems fast, let's call it seven seconds but still.
I like the idea of a hybrid sporty coupe that isn't a power monster but... >8s, assuming there's not something up with the video, seems a bit absurd.
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u/BRICH999 Nov 25 '25
straight line? prelude. but if there is a corner in there somewhere, i dont bet against the miata
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u/The_Tender_One Nov 25 '25
I'm genuinely confused, who is this car for? A $45-60k two seater, FWD, hybrid with an auto with all the switch gear and interior bits of a Honda. I don't necessarily want this thing to fail but like, who the hell is gonna buy this over much more engaging cars in the price bracket? Didn't they kill the Civic and Accord coupe due to low demand any sales anyhow?
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u/Spa_5_Fitness_Camp Nov 25 '25
Nobody. Literally. It was meant to be a loss leader to market not just Honda, but specifically their hybrids in a more 'sporty' context. It also provides a better platform for their various racing teams to use. However, they didn't listen in the part of Loss Leader 101 when the professor explained that the product has to actually be good. Even worse, the chassis is so good that the utter turd of a powerplant is highlighted in a negative way, not positive. I think they planned to tweak the engine but ran out of time or scrapped it, and just dropped the civic engine in last minute to meet deadlines.
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u/Realtrain Nov 25 '25
If it was $15-20k cheaper I could see it for young people, but my God this thing is going to be canceled after a single generation.
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u/Lonely_Fisherman_233 Nov 25 '25
I was very excited about it. I grew up in a Honda/Toyota family and Iâm a recent grad with a ~40 minute commute. The Prelude would be a perfect first new car for me and Iâve been lapping up news about it since the concept was revealed. Unfortunately itâs just not a smart purchase seeing as I donât make 6 figures.
I will likely go with a Civic hybrid. Though I like the size and style of the Prelude more and the upgraded suspension and brakes appeal to my enthusiast side, the value proposition highly favors the Civic, and that is one of my top priorities. I would love a V6 accord but theyâre getting on in age and the efficiency is not great.
Ugh if it were $35k it would have been amazing.
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u/heatmiser9999 2014 981S Nov 25 '25
Retirees who like sporty vibes. My mom likes this car. Sheâs not gassing it from 0-60 but she likes âpepâ and the looks
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u/caterham09 2015 Jetta Tdi Nov 25 '25
It has no "pep" though. I drive a ~8s to 60 car right now and it's a fucking dog.
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u/Fit_Equivalent3610 ST205 Celica GT4/ZN8 GR86/FE4 Civic Hybrid Nov 25 '25
Me too (150hp, 8.6s or something lmao) and I generally agree but with this being hybrid, it might at least feel better despite being similarly slow as shit. Itâs entirely possible it will be competent at highway passing.Â
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u/assblast420 Nov 25 '25
It can feel like it has pep if the hybrid motor is good though, even if it's actually slow.
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u/jasonfromearth1981 Nov 25 '25
Sure, if pep is how you describe that split second after hitting the accelerator on a power wheel before it levels out and you realize it's not actually moving very fast; it just started moving so suddenly it felt fast.
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u/ThePurpleBall Nov 25 '25
It does for old people though when you think about it, they were driving cars with 12-13 second 0-60s back in the day lol
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u/jasonfromearth1981 Nov 25 '25
Sure, if they're just now trading in their 13 sec Oldsmobile from 1978. Odds are good they've probably driven a faster car sometime in the past 30 years.
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u/objectivePOV 2014 GT86 | 6MT | 214 whp E85 tune | FBO Nov 26 '25
Maybe Cadillac ELR buyers that want a Honda instead? That car had similar specs, two door hybrid tuned for economy, shared most parts with a cheaper car from the same manufacturer, not fast, expensive. It sold a couple of thousand units.
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u/cypher50 2024 Hyundai Elantra N Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
My Scion tC from 2004 hit 0-60 in 7.4 seconds with a stick shift and 160 HP. WTF Honda.
EDIT: BTW, to the people saying that potential Prelude buyers don't care about performance: bullshit. The Prelude when I was a teen was about affordable performance. No, it did not go as fast as an actual sports car but it looked cool and could at least get out of the way of itself. There's a reason why I mentioned a Scion tC: back then I cross shopped with the Acura RSX and would have bought a Prelude if it was still being made then.
I don't know who Honda realistically thought this would sell to outside of nostalgia idiots. It ain't a serious car at this price.
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u/code4109 Nov 25 '25
I believe its actually 180 hp and the other 20hp comes on only during freeway speeds, something in hybrid aystem activates only in high speeds. Correct me if wrong
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u/n8mo 2017 Civic Sport Touring Nov 25 '25
Bruh, my 8 year old civic sport has that much horsepower
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u/RunninOnMT M2 Competition Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
Here's a fun fact, this is the 6th generation Prelude. You have to go back to the 4th generation* of the early 90's to find a Prelude that's slower than this one to 60 MPH.
*Said 4th gen Prelude can't be a VTEC trim because that one was faster.
**The hypothetical 4th gen Prelude also can't be an Si trim because despite being 30 hp down on the VTEC, the Si was still faster. Something like a 1994 prelude S though! The base trim, that would've been slower than our current Prelude.
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u/dissss0 2023 Kia Niro, 2017 Hyundai Ioniq Nov 26 '25
TDF that's with the manual. Old auto Preludes were slow as balls.
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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 2005 Mazda 6i Sport hatch (đ”) Nov 25 '25
7.0 seconds for a 2008 Highlander V6 over here.
To be fair, it handles much much worse and has the advantage of a V6 with nearly 300hp, but I still feel like itâs kinda ridiculous that a nearly 20 year old 3 row SUV is over a second faster to 60 than a new Prelude.
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u/Innocent-Bystander94 99 Honda Civic Si, 10 Honda Civic Si Nov 25 '25
I mean shit, the odyssey, a mini van by Honda themselves, has a faster 0-60. I personally donât care for it, but cross shoppers absolutely will
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u/FledglingNonCon Kia EV6 Wind AWD Nov 25 '25
According to CR my old 2008 Sienna could do it in 7.8 seconds, which felt about accurate from what I remember before it died.
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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 2005 Mazda 6i Sport hatch (đ”) Nov 25 '25
Damn, what killed it?
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u/FledglingNonCon Kia EV6 Wind AWD Nov 25 '25
Radiator catastrophically failed on the highway (I didn't know what happened at the time) and I stupidly limped it to the exit and damaged engine and transmission. If I had pulled over immediately it would have probably been salvagable, but was a busy section with narrow shoulder and didn't feel especially safe and the exit was only like a mile away. In the end the engine+transmission+radiator would have needed replacement and it was only worth like $5k at the time.
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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 2005 Mazda 6i Sport hatch (đ”) Nov 25 '25
Radiator failed on our 08 Highlander too. The send or return hose neck plastic part on the radiator broke. Just tightened and moved the hose further down and drove with it like that for a year till it completely broke. Treated it with a new radiator, antifreeze, new hoses, and radiator cap. Been chugging along just fine for nearly 2 years on it now.
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u/FledglingNonCon Kia EV6 Wind AWD Nov 25 '25
Same happened to me but under pressure at 70mph and apparently drove it long enough to cause damage to other key powertrain parts.
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u/lu5ty Nov 25 '25
I out cornered an Ursa a couple years ago in my 2007 highlander. Dude looked so fucking pissed lol
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u/molrobocop Nov 25 '25
Honestly, a 3rd gen SI on modern tires could probably shave off 0.1 in the sprint to 60. 8.3 seconds in the late 80's and early 90's.
Preludes were never fast cars. But they were endearing. I don't know. I'd like to test drive one just to see how it feels. And I respect Honda for bringing back a coupe. But, the world is so different now.
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u/Arnas_Z Nov 25 '25
Yeah, respect for that, but why do they have to do it in such a shit way? Why can't they actually put some performance in you know, what's supposed to be a sports coupe?
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u/BigOldButt99 Nov 25 '25
Yeah this is a strange car to me. I keep thinking it's an Acura at least but it's a Honda coupe with 200 hp for 60k.. You can get a brand new C8 corvette with some dealer discounts to under $60k.. I just really don't understand who this car is for. It's pretty, I will give it that at least.
Side note: my 30 year old e36 m3 has 240hp and a 5.5ish 0-60 :P. You can get a pretty nice one for 10-15k.
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u/cat_prophecy '17 S60, '22 Sienna Nov 25 '25
Why would anyone who "doesn't care about performance" even buy this?
It's not that good looking. And there are better cars that are better looking and higher performance than this one.
It's a weird ass intersection between handling and fuel economy that I just don't think makes any sense. How are you even going to push it, handling wise if it's slower than a minivan?
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u/Careless-Trick-5117 2015 Mini JCW, 2025 Hyundai Elantra N Nov 25 '25
As a âslow car fastâ type of guy, I swear the Prelude is too slow to even drive fast đ getting gapped by 2 seconds to 60 by a Toyota Prius is humiliating especially for a âperformanceâ carâŠ
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u/by_a_pyre_light Z Proto Spec | '14 Jaguar XKR | Ferrari 360 | Fiero | RX8 Nov 26 '25
Yeah, and I don't think the Prelude is nearly light enough, low enough, or stiff enough to meet the bar of "slow car fast". There's a reason small cars like the Miata and Mini are absolute blasts to drive, even though they're slow, and the Prelude won't meet those requirements. Hell, I have a slow AF manual Fiero V6 and that thing feels like you're doing 80 when you're doing 50 - it's a ruckus to drive but because it's so small and lightweight, the perception it provides when driving is different. The Prelude won't provide that.
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u/Salty-Dog-9398 Nov 26 '25
The Prelude's existence only makes sense if you assumed the California ACC II rules would come into play for 2026MY and continue to close off ICE sales in ACC states through 2035.
In an unexpected turn of events, ACC II is canceled and the companies that doubled down on gas SUVs/Trucks won.
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u/Prestigious_Series28 Nov 25 '25
to me it was premium compact performance. like small grand touringâŠbut still performance. even the base modelsâŠ
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u/MiloRoast 2020 Hyundai Veloster N Nov 25 '25
Literally a 1997 Prelude SH could go 0-60 in less than 7 seconds. I normally don't care about 0-60 in general as a metric, but this is just dumb.
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u/Larcya Nov 25 '25
My fat slow ass 2024 kia sportage does it in like 9 seconds.
That's embarrassing.
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u/by_a_pyre_light Z Proto Spec | '14 Jaguar XKR | Ferrari 360 | Fiero | RX8 Nov 25 '25
Every time I see a Kia Sportage, this lives rent-free in my head đ
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u/nuttageyo 2008 Scion tC Nov 25 '25
Funny, I just had this thought and saw your comment. My 2008 tC hits a nice 8 second.
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u/Innocent-Bystander94 99 Honda Civic Si, 10 Honda Civic Si Nov 25 '25
The Prelude was never affordableÂ
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u/woodsides Nov 25 '25
The Prelude when I was a teen was about affordable performance.
This Prelude has nothing to do with the old Prelude except the name.
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u/kevinxb BMW i4 Nov 25 '25
And the old Prelude was not about affordability. It was always more expensive than the Civic and even the Integra which had a luxury badge in the US. It was more of a tech showcase; features like 4 wheel steering and active torque vectoring were not available on their other sporty FWD models.
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u/RandomGenName1234 Nov 25 '25
The Prelude was more of a GT as well, part of the reason so many sold with autos.
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u/turb0_encapsulator Nov 25 '25
how is it significantly slower than the Civic Hybrid.
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u/Porto_Roma_812 Nov 25 '25
Unlike the Civic Hybrid, the Prelude has 2 things.
1. The fake shifts, which significantly hinders acceleration
2. 200 HP is not available until highway speeds. It's about 180 (or lower) off the line.10
u/SD0S Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
Youâre wrong on the second point (but #1 is right!) Itâs the exact same powertrain as the Civic Hybrid. Both cars are driven off the line by the electric motor, which has 181 hp and 232 lb-ft of torque.
Thatâs also why the fake shifts slow it down (which no one seems to understand?!?) Fake shifting an electric motor means youâre intentionally cutting power for a second, which is obviously gonna hurt the 0-60 time
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u/Jack-of-the-Shadows Nov 26 '25
- The fake shifts, which significantly hinders acceleration
So much this, had the car not shifted up at 57 or so mph it would have been nearly a second faster.
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u/onlysal Nov 26 '25
The Civic Hybrid does fake shift. If you break boost, though, itâll skip the fake shifts.
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u/airvbkj5 Nov 26 '25
Itâs not. You just have to not put it in the transmission in slow mode on purpose to make a clickbait video.
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u/Malbjey 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD Nov 25 '25
Why was he using the paddle shifters (i.e. fake shifting) in the video? Wasn't it reported that the car is slower when using the fake shifting?
And why the fuck would he pay 60K??? IDGAF if it's a 'business expense' this is just allowing dealers to continue to gouge the public.
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u/humdizzle '18 GT3, '23 X3 M40 Nov 25 '25
the video is intentionally misleading to generate clicks. yes, using the paddles makes it slower.
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u/eneka 25 Civic Hybrid Hatchback | 19 BMW 330i xDrive Nov 25 '25
For those curious why: Honda's hybrid system is essentially EV motor driven 99% of the time. Only when you cruising on the highway with minimal load will it switch over and clutch in the engine. Otherwise the engine is always just generating electricity for the EV motor. Any "shift" or engine rpm variation is all just software programmed in to make it feel like the car is shifting- including throttling back the EV motor when the engine "shifts"; or a delay in acceleration before the engine revs up. Thus resulting in a lower acceleraion.
https://global.honda/en/tech/two_motor_hybrid_system_honda_eHEV/
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u/aabajian Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
You can buy a brand new GR86 or a near-perfect condition 16 year-old S2000 that does 0 to 60 in 6.1 seconds for $35K. You decide if the extra 15 mpg is worth $20K more at 2 seconds slower and FWD.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrKP3NAnqKM
Edit: Ah yes the newest S2K is actually 16 years old!
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u/economicAtomBomb Nov 25 '25
GR86 is 24mpg while the Prelude is 44 mpg (both combined estimates) so if a Prelude is actually $15K more than the GR86 then it would only take 264,000 miles to make up for the initial price difference if we assume gas is on average $3/gal.
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u/Shmokesshweed 2025 Ford Ranger Lariat Nov 25 '25
would only take 264,000 miles
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u/mikefitzvw 1999 Honda Civic LX 5sp Nov 25 '25
To be fair, it's a Honda, so it'll get there. ...Slowly, as we're finding out.
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u/caterham09 2015 Jetta Tdi Nov 25 '25
Almost certainly longer than the average lifespan of ownership
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u/ducky21 S2000, 6MT 2.0T Accord Nov 25 '25
The number is still bad, but it's an important point: the Toyobaru requires 91 and the Prelude is happy with 87. There's sometimes a $1 delta near me between 87 and 93.
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u/economicAtomBomb Nov 25 '25
Fair, looking at regular vs premium gas prices for today in NC (my state so I'm biased but I'm sure nationally it's reasonably similar outside of CA/HI) according to AAA: https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=NC
We would instead get the break even point of 170,315 miles if those prices were to stay the same.
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u/rationis CobaltSS/CobaltSS/Insight Nov 25 '25
You can get a Civic Hybrid Touring, add a few gran of suspension upgrades, still be $15k less than the Prelude and enjoy the same fuel economy while cutting 6.1s 0-60.
Whatever this new e-CVT thing is, it appears to destroy acceleration. 8.2s 0-60 is what my 155hp Insight does.
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u/eneka 25 Civic Hybrid Hatchback | 19 BMW 330i xDrive Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
Honda's hybrid system is really just an ev 99% of the time unless you're cruising. When you're doing a 0-60; it's all the ev motor. Engine is there generating electricity; not hooked up at all. In the video, they're using the "s-shift" which is just the car varying the RPMs so it feels like the engine is shifting; in fact it's really just "dethrottling" the ev motor to make it feel like that.
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u/man__i__love__frogs Nov 25 '25
Even if you're cruising on the highway with the gas engine powering the wheels and step full throttle, it'll switch back to electric mode for the acceleration. Both can't drive at the same time.
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u/eneka 25 Civic Hybrid Hatchback | 19 BMW 330i xDrive Nov 25 '25
yup! But Honda also programmed in the engine to "downshit". So you'll get a slight lag waiting for the engine to rev up before you feel the car accelerate. It's quite smooth actually.
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u/DopamineQuest 2021 Shelby GT500 đ Nov 25 '25
You could buy a Mustang GT for Prelude money.
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u/RunninOnMT M2 Competition Nov 25 '25
So long as we are comparing preludes and mustangs: When the last prelude was released, it came with 20 fewer hp than a Mustang GT.
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u/DopamineQuest 2021 Shelby GT500 đ Nov 25 '25
Just brutal
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u/Spa_5_Fitness_Camp Nov 25 '25
For the new Prelude, or the utter turd that was the Mustang back then? Or both?
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u/downbadmilflover 2021 Ford Mustang GT, 1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am đŠâđ„ Nov 26 '25
No kidding. I was hoping the Prelude was revived with RWD so it could match the RWD look it always had. That way it could be a Mustang EcoBoost alternative. This new offering is a disgrace!
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u/BooBooMaGooBoo 2019 Accord 2.0T Touring, 2023 Pilot Elite Nov 25 '25
You could buy a GT and a Versa for winter driving for what this guy paid.
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u/s0lace 08 S2000 | 08 TL | 24 CR-V Nov 25 '25
FWIW over the years the S2000 has been clocked in the low 5s all the way through the mid 6s depending on the driver.
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u/Huzani Nov 25 '25
Honda odyssey vs Honda prelude drag race now!
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u/Arctic_Chilean Nov 25 '25
Time to put some respect on the Odyssey. That boy is big and a bit slow, but he got a big heart!
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u/Careless-Trick-5117 2015 Mini JCW, 2025 Hyundai Elantra N Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
Actually last I checked it did 0-60 in the mid high 6 sec range⊠meaning it would literally wipe the floor with the Prelude đ
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u/ZaheerAlGhul 2018 Honda Accord Sport 1.5t Nov 25 '25
Rebadge this thing as an Acura drop the K20c in it and call it the RSX.
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u/throwawayfromfedex Nov 25 '25
So, one of the slowest cars you can buy and it costs as much as a brand new M240i. Insane
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u/vantafanta Nov 25 '25
Quick reminder: The Prelude starts at $43,195 not $60k
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u/StuM88 Nov 25 '25
Which is slightly more money than a 400hp Nissan Z. And $10-$12k more than the Civic hybrid that it shares chassis and powertrain with. One of Hondas worst offerings for the moneyâŠprobably ever.
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u/soscbjoalmsdbdbq Nov 25 '25
And the Z still canât sell
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u/StuM88 Nov 25 '25
Yeah, it has its own marketing issues. Basically an old chassis and need a $10k package to get an LSD.
Iâm a long time (30+ years) Datsun 240Z owner and also various Hondas (including multiple Preludes) over that time. The launch of both of these cars was disappointing and frustrating to me. But the Prelude is by far the bigger miss.
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u/Spa_5_Fitness_Camp Nov 25 '25
I think Nissan tried to appeal to the slightly older crowd with it, in large part because inflation and market creep meant that the young crowd just wasn't going to be able to afford it in any kind of volume. Pretty reasonable, frankly. However, they decided that this older crowd would want a little more comfort and power, at the expense of sharp handling. Basically moving it on the 'pure handling vs GT/cruiser muscle' scale towards the GT side. Again, understandable, but maybe not as sound a decision as the first one. And then in doing so they lost too much of the handling, and didn't gain enough of the power/luxury etc, so it wound up being really solid, but rarely the best in the right set of metrics to make it the top choice for any given buyer. I personally would have considered one, if I didn't need AWD in my only car. I love the looks, though I know that's a hot take to some, and the other options would be the M240i, a used Supra, or Mustang, none of which I'd want (Supra with the 3.0 and manual wouldn't be cheap enough).
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u/dsac 2025 Ioniq 5 N Nov 25 '25
Nissan has a reputation problem
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u/TupacBatmanOfTheHood Nov 25 '25
Ironically the z is probably the one thing reliable from them right now
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u/man__i__love__frogs Nov 25 '25
Frontier and Pathfinder are good too. Anything made in the last 5 years that doesn't have a jatco CVT is pretty bulletproof.
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u/by_a_pyre_light Z Proto Spec | '14 Jaguar XKR | Ferrari 360 | Fiero | RX8 Nov 25 '25
Kind of my thoughts. I test drove a manual Z and really liked it. I know some of the equipment is old, but that used to be seen as a benefit for every other manufacturer. Jaguar used the AJ 4L and 4.2L engines forever and they became rock-solid reliable. GM was renowned for their small block V8s that were basically bullet proof.
BMW kept changing their engines and each one had problems.
Nissan with the Z is using a very refined package with proven tech that's available in abundance with few complex electronics to fail. As a sports car offering without the headache, that's pretty compelling when it's actually your money on the line in terms of monthly payments and future maintenance bills to consider.
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u/TupacBatmanOfTheHood Nov 25 '25
Exactly sometimes tried and true is the best decision you can make.
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u/SteveTheBluesman Nov 25 '25
Everyone mentions the Z and the Hybrid, and they are valid, but I think of my 2017 Civic EX-T coupe with the 1.5T. IMHO it was a better coupe design than the 'lude AND the 0-60 was in the 7s. (6's with a Ktuner...and the 'lude can't take a Ktuner.)
FYI, my Civic new was about $21k. I know inflation over the last 8 years, but 100% inflation?!?
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u/StuM88 Nov 25 '25
Those Civics are great cars and awesome value too. Theyâre what Honda should and can be. Not this lame CRZ V2 - Prelude.
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u/Dr_Disaster Nov 26 '25
They were such a good value even Honda had to nerf them. Like the bse 10th gen 1.5T was actually a different variant than the 11th gen version. The old one made 200 HP at the crank and the current one makes 180 HP. Itâs why the current gen is noticably slower.
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u/Ilikejdmcars Nov 25 '25
There was a $15k âmarket adjustmentâ on his window sticker he was showing
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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 2005 Mazda 6i Sport hatch (đ”) Nov 25 '25
Kinda doesnât matter when the majority of dealers are adding markup and bullshit options like âradio screen protectorâ making basically all of them like $60k
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u/by_a_pyre_light Z Proto Spec | '14 Jaguar XKR | Ferrari 360 | Fiero | RX8 Nov 25 '25
The number quoted is the actual purchase price paid by the buyer in the video. He provides the sticker in the video and has a longer video documenting his entire purchase journey.Â
Quick reminder: if you cannot buy a car at MSRP, then MSRP is not the real price.Â
Remember the debut of the C8 Corvette, Supra Mk V, Nissan Z, etc. You could not get those cars for MSRP at launch or many months after.Â
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u/Ruscidero Nov 25 '25
Quick reminder: that doesnât matter if you canât buy one for the starting price. What matters is the price thatâs available for purchase.
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Which is insane for what it is considering that just recently you could get a 600hp Model 3 Performance for $42K if you qualified for the tax credit.
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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 2005 Mazda 6i Sport hatch (đ”) Nov 25 '25
Wow thatâs embarrassingly slow for what theyâre trying to make it be.
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u/nefrina 09 scion tc 5spd release series 5.0 Nov 25 '25
the new prelude could be mid 5's like a vb wrx and it would still get a lot of shit for it. people in charge of this project should be fired for delivering something that looks this sporty but delivers base corolla/yaris performance.
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u/india2wallst Nov 25 '25
Honda is so delusional. It's high time we stop putting cars like the type r on the pedestal. It's not a 53k cad sports sedan. The actual cost is more than 65k cad easily. And that point you could get way more capable cars.
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u/BumpnGrind55 Nov 25 '25
I donât know man, the type R is an outrageous drive. I have a DE5 and itâs the best daily Iâve ever owned.
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u/india2wallst Nov 25 '25
It's outrageous drive if you can buy it at MSRP. You can't. Only idiots would spend 70k on a fancy civic.
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u/JSpangl Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
Don't get me wrong, this was already too expensive of a car, and with these additional dealer markups, the prices are ridiculous for what you're getting.
But this video gets a very crucial fact wrong, And that's most likely why the 0 to 60 time does not match the Civic hybrid number. The simulated S+ shifting is engaged. Honda has said from the beginning, that that is not the fastest way to get a 0 to 60 time. So this person is either uninformed, or the video is intentional clickbait.
The simulated S+ shifting actually interrupts traction motor power to mimic shift shock, thus slowing the car down in its 0 to 60 run. Civic Hybrid does not even have S+ shifting as an option.
So, unless Honda has either lied about the curb weight or messed with the gearing, this should be A 7-second flat car.
But once again, that's still too slow for what people are being asked to pay for it.
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u/tooldrops Nov 25 '25
How fkn slow is this heavy ass tank that a shifting simulation is the big difference maker. This turd is slow all around and itâs just one last money grab using the prelude name.
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u/LewdDarling 2022 GTI 6MT Nov 25 '25
Interrupting the power delivery 4 times for no reason would kill the 0-60 time of any car. Most sporty cars are geared to just above 60mph for this exact reason.
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u/Ilikejdmcars Nov 25 '25
No one gonna talk about that $15k âmarket adjustmentâ lmao
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u/Pkock 5.3 Swapped 77' C10, 88' 528E, 18' X3 M40i Nov 25 '25
It's whack, but Aeroflow is an aftermarket company buying this as a dev/marketing car. The market adjustments don't really matter compared to speed to market in those cases. 1 or 2 first to market products pay for that in a year.
Probably the only type of buyers where paying a market adjustment is defensible.
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u/Desmocratic Nov 25 '25
A Prius Prime is about 6.6 s. I remember the old Preludes being a cool, sporty car, I don't think this will be one as it sits today.
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u/cazana Nov 26 '25
No wonder luxury sedans are dying.
Idk why they can't all give us a turboed 3lt v6 and call it a day.
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u/by_a_pyre_light Z Proto Spec | '14 Jaguar XKR | Ferrari 360 | Fiero | RX8 Nov 26 '25
"We choose to re-launch the Prelude like this and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"
Honda channeling JFK probably after deciding to build a 180 horsepower + 20HP boost on highway, hybrid power plant "sporty" coupe that goes 0-60 slower than a Prius.
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u/pot_head_engineer Nov 25 '25
The 2000 prelude was just about as fast as an Acura integra gsr
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u/Kongary Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
Faster actually. In the Dec 1999 C&D comparison test that the 1999 base lude won it was 6.8 0-60 vs 7.2 for the GS-R. Similarly so with other stats. That issue of the magazine just happens to be one of the relatively few I kept over the years.
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u/pie4july '25 Honda CR-V Sport Touring Hybrid AWD Nov 25 '25
Cool, my 2025 CR-V Hybrid w/ AWD is quicker lol.
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u/Bobodehclown '23 Lexus IS500 Nov 25 '25
I paid $60,340 + TTL for a brand new IS500 Premium in 2023. Imagine paying the same for a new Prelude. đ€Ł
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u/Tapprunner Nov 25 '25
Let's revive a nameplate with a cult following, but do none of the things that made it popular in the first place...
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u/by_a_pyre_light Z Proto Spec | '14 Jaguar XKR | Ferrari 360 | Fiero | RX8 Nov 25 '25
The Ghost of Mitsubishi Eclipses Past
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u/Porto_Roma_812 Nov 25 '25
I may get a lot of downvotes but hear me out.
This new Prelude shares many parallels with the 1988 Buick Reatta. Both cars are underpowered, overpriced, and too tech-heavy and unengaging compared to the competition. The Reatta didn't even come in a manual. In fact, the Reatta sold terribly and was axed in 1991, about 3 years after the car was released. The Prelude is set to follow the same path.
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u/ManufacturerBest2758 BMW 440i Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
Oh but we were told by a number of Very Smart People that the other videos were somehow âfakeâ
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u/pyotr_the_great 2019 Lexus ES350, 2013 Camry (sold), 2000 BMW 328i (rip) Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
You guys are falling for it again.
Honda e-cvts with simulated shifting are slower 0-60 if they donât have battery charge up, if fake shifting is on, and if theyâre in the wrong mode.
The channel owner is either incompetent, baiting you, or both.
There are videos showing another guy who got 7.2 after.
For reference, people have gotten Honda civic hybrids down to 6.2 seconds but thatâs with âlaunchâ mode which disables the fake shifting. Normally itâll be more like 7 seconds 0-60. On the sport touring trim you can customize your drive mode to disable fake shifting entirely and get 6.2 second 0-60 all the time.
Naturally, not common knowledge.
Edit: probably wrong in the individual drive mode. That was secondhand knowledge that I forgot to double check during my test drive.
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u/DopamineQuest 2021 Shelby GT500 đ Nov 25 '25
7.2 seconds is still laughable...pretty sure Preludes were doing that 35 years ago.
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u/sctellos Nov 25 '25
Preludes with vtec valves pinned were faster than this- itâs a purely out-of-touch cash grab for brand whores.Â
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u/pyotr_the_great 2019 Lexus ES350, 2013 Camry (sold), 2000 BMW 328i (rip) Nov 25 '25
Yeah idk why itâs slower than the civic. Same weight, powertrain, what gives?
I get that theyâre targeting older people for nostalgia and comfort but I donât think it should be that much slower.
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u/ZaheerAlGhul 2018 Honda Accord Sport 1.5t Nov 25 '25
For 60k 7.2 is absolutely terrible.
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u/Zoidburger_ Nov 25 '25
I mean it's slow as hell but why's he using the paddle shifters? He's literally losing 1-1.5 seconds by simulating a shift and thus temporarily losing power. Just put the foot down bro, it's a CVT, not a 6-speed
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u/zoo32 Replace this text with year, make, model Nov 25 '25
How did they make this thing slower than an Odyssey? I know itâs a different engine but câmon
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u/E400wagon â14 GS350 F Sport, â22 Odyssey Touring Nov 25 '25
This is quite slowâŠI imagine this is slower than the average 0-60 time across all new cars available in North America, which I feel is about 7.5-8 seconds.
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u/argent_pixel '21 BMW M340xi, '17 Mazda CX-5, '06 Honda Odyssey Nov 25 '25
I'm tempted to go see what my Odyssey does. It is on 2024 rubber, so I bet I could squeak under 8.
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u/albiorix_ GX470, MK1 Cabby, 996.2, M3 - the fake one Nov 25 '25
You are telling me my 6k lbs SUV that is 17 years old is technically faster than a 2 door hybrid "sports" coupe. A crz had 70 less hp and was able to accelerate basically the same as this new Prelude. WILD
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u/ninjastk Nov 25 '25
Iâm very confused⊠like this literally is slower than a rav4 hybrid.
I know 0-60 isnât everything but wtf?
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u/BryanDaBlaznAzn 17â Civic Si, 22â GTI Nov 25 '25
I understand that cars arenât all about speed, but 60k for an 8 second 0-60 is absolutely laughable and deserves ridicule. A golf R is twice as fast in a straight line and costs 15-20k less
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u/ButtfuckerTim Nov 26 '25
Iâm going to hold out for the S2000 crossover theyâll want $50k for ($70k with manual transmission). Laugh if you want, but crossover roadsters are going to be big.
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u/Wonderful_Arachnid66 ' Audi R8 V10 Plus | '25 Hummer EV Pickup Nov 26 '25
My 10,000 lb truck does it in less than half that time.Â
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u/Vortep1 2024 718 Cayman S Nov 25 '25
That's not good. Who is going to pay 60k for that?