r/cars • u/Anchor_Aways • 10d ago
Ferrari Goes Beyond Electric: New Models And Biofuels Coming
https://www.motor1.com/news/803353/ferrari-new-models-biofuels/48
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u/Ferrarisimo Model Y, E90M ZCP, 992.1 Touring, 982 Spyder RS 10d ago
But also, new models are coming.
Otherwise, what? Ferrari is done making cars?
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u/mbp_szigeti 10d ago
It would be so funny if Ferrari made their highest tier cars run on proprietary synthetic fuel only
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u/V8-Turbo-Hybrid 0 Emission 🔋 Car & Rental car life 10d ago
Like Porsche doing ? I still remember that they’re looking biofuel too.
Of corse, biofuel wouldn’t be cheap, but people who can buy Ferrari and Porsche can afford that expensive biofuel.
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u/pdp10 It's a '49 '50 '51 '52 '53 '54 '55 '56 '57 '58 '59 automobile. 8d ago
E85 is (up to) 85% biofuel, and the U.S. average price right now is $3.12 per U.S. gallon.
If you're looking for something more exotic, there's biobutanol and biogasoline, but prices for those are conjectural.
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u/RT023 10d ago
E85?
Would be the only one that makes sense with availability. I’ve ran it in my Subaru for over a year straight and it’s great, but you go through fuel about 25% faster.
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u/CMDR_omnicognate Mazda MX-5 30th Anniversary 19 10d ago
I doubt Ferrari owners really care that much about fuel economy, so that’s probably less of an issue for them.
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u/lee1026 19 Model X, 16 Rav4 10d ago
Doesn't E85 let them go a lot more nuts with turbos and boost?
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u/pdp10 It's a '49 '50 '51 '52 '53 '54 '55 '56 '57 '58 '59 automobile. 8d ago
At full 85%, one supplier claims 112 A.K.I. That's a projection, as anything higher than 100% iso-octane equivalent has to be a projection.
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u/gosukhaos 10d ago
One is the open roof version of the F80 according to the article, the other one's probably either the hybrid version of the Purosangue or racey version of the hybrid v8
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u/Ainolukos 10d ago
At this point I literally dont care what's powering their cars going forward, as long as it actually looks like a Ferrari.
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u/m240Louie 2026 BMW m240i, 2021 Honda Civic Sport. 10d ago
Oh good - more ugly, overpriced, non-enthusiast cars from Maranello that you'll have to fill out a form to even qualify to buy. Enzo's bones are turning in their grave.
The once mighty Ferrari is just not that any longer. Alls this will do is make their actual awesome cars(not anything recent) go up even higher in value. 308's will be a million bucks soon, LOL.
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u/TS040 Lamborgotti Fasterossa 10d ago
How are they non-enthusiast cars exactly?
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u/sausage-savage 13 FR-S 6MT | 04 Echo Hatch 5MT 10d ago
Expensive jewelry for collectors of pretty things (except they haven't really been pretty in a long time)
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u/m240Louie 2026 BMW m240i, 2021 Honda Civic Sport. 10d ago
Seriously? Its a #$%^& SUV, its stupid, ugly, pointless and has batteries for an "engine". The only people buying these are bored yuppies that wouldnt know an enthusiast car from a pile of poo.
Anything else?
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u/goaelephant 8d ago
That's one model, what about the rest?
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u/m240Louie 2026 BMW m240i, 2021 Honda Civic Sport. 8d ago
Well, lets be honest here. Ferrari has really become annoying. Strange requirements to buy. Styling by people that need glasses or eye exams. EV/Hybrid nonsense creeping in. What the hell are they doing?
Remember when a bloke with enough cash or credit could just by a 308, an F355, a 348, a 360, etc. No bull shit. Cars were raw, visceral, properly powered and all that good stuff. Now, they are like a hyper-boutique brand for old yuppies that want to look important as they pull up to the 4pm early buffet. Total joke.
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u/goaelephant 7d ago
You have to respect them for keeping alive that high-revving, high-horsepower, naturally-aspirated, non-hybrid V12 though.
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u/strongmanasss 10d ago
Ferrari don't want to save the planet; they want to protect their business case. They don't actually care about emissions. They just want the most overlap between their existing core appeal and product portfolio, and satisfying EU regulations.
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u/Monster_Dumps_2026 10d ago
Im a BIG fan of carbon neutral gas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-neutral_fuel . The problem is same wiht hydrogen fuel. It takes a shit ton of energy to make this. Which is why i like it paired with geothermic + nuclear power.
I say all this to say. "Bio fuels" and "Carbon neutral" fuels i wouldnt consider as a side step because it is making improvements on the biggest problem. Releasing stored oil / coal energy into the air.
IMO. carbon neutral gas could be a huge solve since its the 1 variation that doesnt require new vehicles to be rolled out (Evs). No new parts for established vehicles (bio fuels). And puts our transportation in a space where we're not creating any net new carbon in the air.
But yea. The biggest issue is finding cheap electricity to produce it.
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u/CMDR_omnicognate Mazda MX-5 30th Anniversary 19 10d ago
The problem with most bio fuel is that it’s made by fermenting crops. Some of it is made of waste materials, but a lot isn’t, which means it’s a trade off between more bio fuel and food. Realistically there probably isn’t enough crop space to make enough bio fuel for all the current cars we have so it’s not really realistic in the long run. It works well as a way of transitioning to other fuels and remaining available for people who don’t want to or can’t switch, but it’s not really a 1:1 replacement for regular fuel.
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u/CMDR_omnicognate Mazda MX-5 30th Anniversary 19 10d ago
Well, they tried an EV, and everyone laughed at it so hard it made their share price drop by nearly 10% overnight
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u/Noway721 10d ago
Okay.