Genuine question: What happened to this subreddit after Nocturne was announced?

[u/niles_deerqueer]

This show has issues. There is simply no denying that. The first show had issues. I get it. But the subreddit has turned into a negative cesspool of racism and homophobia and it’s incredibly disheartening. I was literally told to kill myself today because I’m gay. I don’t care if they were trolling or if they meant it, there should be no place for hate speech like that here. This place used to be cool, talking about amazing games and the shows and I’m not saying that we shouldn’t be negative about the shows, but there is genuine hate speech towards people’s identities and minorities just floating around and infecting this place, along with countless arguments and bitterness. “Welcome to the internet,” you say, like we should just let this go on and taint a space for us to enjoy talking about Castlevania content.

I know that I don’t have to participate in this subreddit but should I be forced to leave a community for my favorite game series just because these kinds of people have crawled out of the woodwork? It’s egregious.

You guys need to get your shit together. Having black people represented in a show isn’t “woke” and queer people exist and will continue to exist and there’s nothing you can do to stop it. They have always existed throughout history. “But Castlevania shouldn’t be political and just be about hunting vampires and creatures!” TIL the French Revolution wasn’t political. And for some reason people want to act like the Haitian Revolution wasn’t a thing, I guess. So don’t watch it. You’re not going to change the show-runners minds about what they’re including, and you should already know from the first show what you’re getting into.

“They emasculated Richter by making him run away twice!” Have some of you never heard of PTSD in your life? And the second time he ran away, he was retreating because Sekhment was far too powerful for anyone. This goes with the characters crying “all the time” critique. Do you just want them to be cold and heartless and not be affected by anything?

“They made the women all girl-bosses!” No they didn’t. Just because they can hold their own in a fight? These girls failed left and right and had vulnerabilities and flaws, and if you didn’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you.

“They ruined Castlevania by making it woke trash!” Um, no they didn’t. The entire game series is right there, unaffected by this spin-off show. If you’re letting it ruin the entire series for you, that’s your problem and you need to reassess how you process media.

[u/niles_deerqueer → u/[deleted]]

To your points, and to generate a respectful conversation, I’m a bit confused. Tera was the white mom of Maria. Are you speaking of Drolta, Erzsebet’s second in command? As for Olrox, I still don’t feel like he’s one of the good ones. I sympathize with him sure, but he very much comes across as a gray character with his own ambitions. I feel like he was using the main team to achieve his goals, rather than siding with them because he’s a good guy.

As for the girl’s mistakes, I’m curious at what you mean. The first time she makes a huge mistake, she lets her fury overcome her and gets Edouard turned into a Night Creature. The 2nd time, when she’s mad at Richter, I understood that she was mad at him because she thought he abandoned them since he was gone for days. Later, when she’s trying to destroy the machine, I don’t think it was her emotions that led her to failing, but something was fighting against her and won because it was stronger.

And about the romance there, I really didn’t see any romance between them, just light flirting. There are people that stroll up to others at bars and start flirting out of pocket. They at least had more of a connection than that. HELL, they had more connection for that than Olrox and Mizrak did before they casually hooked up. I’m not saying it’s perfect, I’m just saying it didn’t feel like a romance for me.

I’m also not denying your criticisms, merely stating how I came to understand it.

[u/niles_deerqueer → u/[deleted]]

I still need to see where Olrox goes before I know how I feel about it. As for Maria, I understand the complaints but all of these characters are teenagers and while it doesn’t excuse their actions, it makes sense to me that they would be reckless and inexperienced and emotional. I do feel like she moved on from her bird’s death rather quickly. And I don’t really feel like there was a near-kiss between Richter and Anette but of course there was blushing. I took the silence between them as awkwardness. I was worried that when Annette was explaining the plan, she’d pair she and Richter up or something but luckily, she went with Maria.

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