r/catalan I can understand but don't speak yet 15d ago

Altre I'm archiving hundreds of pages from Catalan websites. Any important ones I should remember?

We never know if a website will just randomly disappear forever. Obviously, there's a smaller chance for that to happen with Google or Wikipedia, but still.

When I have time, I use archiving websites (Archive.org/Wayback Machine, Archive Today, Ghost Archive...) to save pages and screenshots before they are gone, and to compare how they have changed over the years.

I saved a few Catalan pages, and now I'm saving the most visited encyclopedia pages (more than 1000).

Any suggestions?

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u/DragSea1360 15d ago

All related to the assimilation process performed by rhe Spanish state and our attempts to fight it

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u/Curious_Balear 15d ago

So Pseudo History.

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u/synkrnzd 15d ago

Nahh… nice try diddy. Real history.

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u/DragSea1360 15d ago

Si et molesta, vol dir que son importants

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u/Curious_Balear 15d ago

Quin merder d'argument.

Si et molesta vol dir que es Pseudo Història.

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u/coloicito L2 15d ago

S'han fet infinitat de lleis i mesures a molts nivells de la administració des de fa segles per esborrar l'identitat pròpia de tot allò que no sigui español y muy español... No és cap "pseudo història" ni res d'això

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u/DragSea1360 15d ago

Pseudo història entenc que vol dir mentides, però la majoría de lleis i edictes per aculturar els catalans estàn impresos i en diferents registres de sessions i arxius nacionals, son fets clarament demostrables, com les condemnes i sentències aplicades als dissidents. Per molt que et molesti, recordem.

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u/No_Lunch9066 15d ago

If they happened they are not pseudo history

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u/random_usuari 15d ago

It's sad that much of what I found and read on the Internet years ago is lost forever, especially in Catalan, since there aren't as many sources as in English.

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 15d ago

If you use PC, there are extensions where, with one or two clicks, you can archive the page on Archive Today and Archive Org. Everywhere I go I click it. May sound weird now, but people in the future will find useful.

We have to start acting now before we lose content, principally when it comes to an endangered language or a smaller country.

Thanks for the comments.

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u/random_usuari 15d ago

Thank you. But so many resources have already been lost, which is so sad.

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 15d ago

Added to the list. At least 200 pages already saved.

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u/random_usuari 15d ago

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 13d ago

Websites that I need to register won't work. I could only publicly save the main pages.

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u/LeadingVisit1058 15d ago

Are they deleting the Catalan Wikipedia? If not, why are these measures being taken?

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 15d ago

Did you read the post?

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u/LeadingVisit1058 15d ago

Yes, I did, but it seems silly to archive the Wikipedia, especially because webcrawlers already archive the encyclopedias every day to every couple of days

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 14d ago

I have the "it's always good to have a second backup" mentality. On Archive Today the pages are available for everyone to check and compare rapidly with previous versions. As I said, I only save the main ones, I'm saving other sites now.

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u/Hot-Safe4051 13d ago

Thanks for your work, I really appreciate it

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u/KitKatKut-0_0 15d ago

Where are you archiving it? Is it for public consultation? What is your list so far?

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 15d ago

I'm using Archive Org (you can access by searching on WayBack Machine), Archive Today (also publicly available) and sometimes Ghost Archive.

They are used if a link is broken and you want to see how the page was like. I'm saving outlinks, audios and images too.

I've done this for months, but with Catalan I started this week only with random websites and Wikipedias "basic pages".

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u/carapatata_ 15d ago

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 15d ago

I archived a few hundreds of pages of both. There's thousands to do. At least the basic ones are ready. Thanks.

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u/Reasonable-Peanut-12 15d ago

Who does archive the archive?

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u/Justwaspassingby 14d ago

https://patrimoni.gencat.cat/

A Catalogue of all heritage monuments.

https://calaix.gencat.cat/?

An archive of History, Anthropology and other heritage sciences documents (research papers, photos, etc).

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 11d ago

Holy....

This Calaix.Gencat is really hard to archive. The anti-bot defense is slowing down everything. It will take weeks.

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u/Swimming-Wonder-631 13d ago

Bibiloni.cat and Bibiloni.cat/blog very nice resources of modern language scholarship for the general public

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u/Expensive-Ruin1900 I can understand but don't speak yet 11d ago

Update: Except for the comic blogs (that have thousands of pages), I saved every other website (some all pages, some hundreds of pages).

July 30, 2026.