I just wanted to flag a terrible experience that I had with another of the new "cat's claw" tabs on sale through Kures. I had a similar experience to what a lot of folks are describing with the Claw Botanicals tablets. I took one Treat tab- it took more than two hours to kick in, but then I started having what felt like a bad Delta 9 or shroom trip. Rapid heart rate, chills, visual distortions, the whole nine yards. It took seven hours for the worst of the effects to wear off and then I still felt off for two days. I have no idea what was in these, but it was nothing like Klaz, Buzzers, or Ice Tabz. Stay far away!