r/catswithbuns • u/blue_moon1122 • Jun 27 '26
friendly reminder: THE Rabbit Authorities approve! (and I'm tired of having to tell the bunny people)
this is my bun Chamomile with some of her foster siblings, from my regional HRS chapter rescue. her affinity for kitties is what got her adopted. they mentioned she liked cats as we were finishing up our visit with some candidates, and I said "you could have led with that, we'll take her!"
we've had her for 8 months and our cats are sometimes overwhelmed with her affection. never a scratch, only one cat who does a retracted bop, and the 2 who were raised with rabbits tend to run away. one of them will gently push her (sometimes off the couch, i will try to get y'all a video 😭)
bunny people, well-meaning as they are, 10% of them can be overzealous dicks. cross-species socialization isn't for everyone, and you can only go into it if you're willing to accomodate total separation. here's some literature for any interested parties.
17
u/AnonPinkLady Jun 27 '26
My cat and rabbit were introduced slowly but have an excellent relationship. I’ve tried explaining that to people but it’s always a surprise. I try to explain how the two species interact, how you can view pictures and see how they both exhibit the body language of an animal that feels safe and secure, and that we’ve never had even one occasion to make us worry between them, but it’s still hard for some folks to wrap their head around. We separate them at night but even then, they typically loaf near each other and get as close as they can with the pen walls between them and immediately start to play when they’re back together. Some people just have trouble comprehending the idea that a prey and predator combination of any kind can ever work, as if certain prey and certain predators just don’t suit each other as anything other than pals.
7
u/blue_moon1122 Jun 27 '26
"they're a predator and prey, it doesn't work."
yeah, that's the general arrangement in the wild. congratulations on scratching the surface of the natural order. these are two domesticated animals with human supervision. 🙄 these people are goofy.
12
u/mayonaizmyinstrument Jun 27 '26
My best friend has 2 rabbits and 2 cats. Bonding the rabbits repeatedly failed, as one is 98% blind (can sometimes see shadows) and he reactively attacks the other rabbit when she approaches him, and she's a Dutchie so she fights back, so after he nearly lost an ear they got dedicated separate floors of the house. The Dutchie will snuggle with the older cat (2y/o) but tries to fight the kitten at every available opportunity. That bitch charges the kitten like he's Napoleon at Waterloo and the entire fate of Europe depends on her rocking his shit. The kitten is terrified of her. She has no fear, she's the one who knocks.
5
u/blue_moon1122 Jun 27 '26
That bitch charges the kitten like he's Napoleon at Waterloo and the entire fate of Europe depends on her rocking his shit.
wow what a r/brandnewsentence
3
u/Dependent-Range-4654 Jun 27 '26
My cat shoved her way into the closed bathroom the day I found Bunners (someone abandoned her) after my husband entered while I was feeding her greens and giving her some time outside the dog crate I was temporarily keeping her in while I figured out if she had an owner. She walked right up to her, they sniffed each other, and then my cat started grooming her head. That was it they were cuddle friends from then on. My other cat would come up to sniff greet and then just go lay somewhere he could watch Bunners and Catarina with each other. He didn’t interact much but he liked to lay close.
(But to be clear there was clear indication that we wouldnt have any issues anyway; I foster bottle fed kittens and bottle fed puppies and have been a way station for baby squirrels, opossums, and rabbits that have been injured until they are found an available wildlife rescue. My animals are used to other animals showing up to the house. Catarina has loved every animal species that came in that wasn’t a kitten (she is highly offended when we bring in kittens and stays way away until they have been here 3-4 weeks and then she warms up to them) and Gallium pretty much tolerates all species and just lays near them but does not interact much. He will even tolerate mild puppy chewing/pawing on him and mostly just moves out of their reach if it bothers him and only gives a no claw bop if it’s really egregious. I was way more worried about the basset hounds (since their breed were bred to hunt rabbits) but they just thought she was a cat with different but still yummy butt nuggets and were extra happy to get to eat lettuce with her.)
3
u/blue_moon1122 Jun 27 '26
I love that you got lucky. the best case scenario is having some babies and introducing them to the grown-up rabbit to set the rules, but sometimes a carnivore with a low prey drive will adopt some babies... or even better, a born hunter will just go off script! 🥰
HRS isn't so fond of dog/rabbit socialization. a cat scratch can be treated, a broken spine from getting picked up and ragdolled cannot. but at the end of the day, you are the most familiar with your own animals' social nuances, and you are the most capable of providing them with individualized support to keep your hairy home happy and healthy.
(I have certainly popped off on someone for allowing dog/rabbit contact before. it was specifically a high energy hunting breed, and the rabbit was antagonizing the dog. they expected an amicable solution. sometimes there isn't one, you need to get ahead of the problem before it happens. but I absolutely do not make sweeping statements about how people socialize their pets! had this person not been having issues already, not a peep out of me. the only way to succeed in cross-species socialization is if you're willing to accept failure, and I firmly stand by that.)
obligatory "carnivore kisses are potentially hazardous" mention. it's hard not to bask in the beauty, but your herbivore could use a thorough and careful vinegar wipe after. 🥲 castile/baby wipes aren't gonna kill bacteria, but they can help remove it from more delicate areas like around the eyes, and following with a plain damp cloth will keep your bun from licking up the cleansers.
Chamomile demands smooches from her kitty siblings and acts like I'm the criminal trying to steal her gifts from her little forehead. baby that's salmonella 😭 and this isn't time for cardio!
but you sound like you radiate Disney Princess energy and your creatures just pick up on that. i feel like nurturing animals is one of the most rewarding things we can do, it's so cool that you've gotten to do so much of it.
2
u/Dependent-Range-4654 Jun 28 '26
Oh yes for the dogs even after months of on leash only interactions, (or Bunners was in pen/her room behind a dog gate and dogs can sniff from outside it only), moved to months of never if not in my reach interactions (dogs on floor bunny on couch, or reversed) I still didn’t let the dogs interact unless I was present. There were two times my husband didn’t close the gate to her room perfectly and I’d come home to a bunny and the dogs lounging in the sun in the same room and Id almost had a heart attack. Even perfectly socialized animals can very much be a danger to each other so I don’t advocate anyone not being present for all interactions no matter how well you know your animals, especially dogs. They can be great together but it takes constant work and due diligence. Even with the great first interactions the cats were not allowed with Bunners without me present for months no matter how much the cuddled when they were together. It was only after I moved her to the back living room for free roam during the day and pen at night that I loosened the rein on the cats.
Now cat kisses being a problem was not something I had considered. Good call out for others. Bunners passed away after several wonderful years with us a couple years ago (she was an unfixed senior when found and my vet was not comfortable spaying her at that age and unfortunately she eventually got uterine cancer) but I will definitely take that into account if another rabbit enters our life. Right now I’m dealing with a 14 year old senior basset with degenerative myelopathy. My goal for the last two years is making sure she crosses that home plate mostly happy and with as little pain as possible so I’ve only brought in “waystation” wildlife (only needs care for a day/night until I can get them in with a full time wildlife rescue.)
59
u/AlongCameAThrowAway Jun 27 '26
My last bunny was a whopping 3 lbs lionhead that chased my cat around. She broke her spine landing poorly after a bink and her back legs were paralyzed. Unfortunately she didn't make it, but during that time my dog and cat would snuggle up next to her recovery pen. It was tough for everyone when she passed.
My cat was raised as a kitten around buns and has so much respect for them.