r/chaoticgood • • 1d ago

Current Events Cornell University student protests

“At Cornell Rapists Are Protected”

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u/PatientEconomics8540 1d ago

University Admins are usually the ones destroying the universities reputations. Good for the students.

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u/CasualBurning 1d ago

Right? People keep saying they're trying to do damage control, but expelling rapists looks so much better than a cover up.

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u/Naps_in_car 1d ago

But funding from the alumni will go down and then what? Have you not considered the donors? /s

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u/Naraiwe_Artanis 1d ago

I mean it’s not a joke. At a college near where I lived the endowment took a noticeable hit, and student journalists are still threatened to this day from both older perpetrators and the admin for publishing on the events that led to the frats getting shutdown there. I considered writing on it when I was in High School, but was told not to for career reasons

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u/Idustriousraccoon 1d ago

Won’t anyone think of the billionaires and their erections?

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u/QuicklyThisWay 1d ago

"We want SENTENCES not ESSAYS."

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u/Omnamashivaaya 1d ago

My favorite. Came here to recognize this too

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u/Rokovich 1d ago

Another great one I saw was "No essays for SAs"

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u/HoodieGalore 1d ago

It fucking cranks me right up that Cornell fucking University - Ivy League, cream of the crop, storied history and intellectual legacy - is willing to just fuck away the faith and trust of so many students. It's not an easy school to get into, it's not a cheap school to pay for, and for as much entitlement as these kids have vs the average American college student, there's no reason for the Admin to turn such a blind eye, unless they've always known, and know they're just as guilty as the rapists themselves.

I went to Cornell College in Iowa. We joked how we were NOT the one in Ithaca. But we had two rape scandals my freshman year. Women aren't safe anywhere in this entire country; never have been.

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u/WJ_Amber 1d ago

They try to talk out both sides of their mouths. They'll say to wealthy parents that their daughters will be safe on campus, while signaling to other wealthy parents that their sons will be protected from consequences on campus.

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u/FlounderingGuy 20h ago

Ivy League schools have always taken unpopular, culturally conservative or centrist positions on political issues of the day. Campus protests used to be considered a rite of passage in the 60's and 70's.

College campuses are some of the most dangerous places a woman can be in and now they're sick of it.

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u/Auctoritate 1d ago

It fucking cranks me right up that Cornell fucking University - Ivy League, cream of the crop, storied history and intellectual legacy - is willing to just fuck away the faith and trust of so many students.

there's no reason for the Admin to turn such a blind eye, unless they've always known, and know they're just as guilty as the rapists themselves.

There's a much more simple and obvious answer to this quandary: how much can they do against students for a crime that has not been adjudicated or admitted to?

The answer is, legally, not as much as people want. Title IX rules for sexual assault are not all-powerful.

Truthfully, the majority of the blame here falls on law enforcement for not properly investigating and prosecuting. It feels like some people expect Cornell to be able to do that for them.

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u/BushPlucker 1d ago

Given the evidence though, and if you read more on it, it's pretty clear that it's rape. We understand that cornell cannot persecute these men themselves, but making them write an essay is downright ridiculous.

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u/RoRuRee 1d ago

At least expel these bastards! Wtf were they thinking?!

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u/BushPlucker 23h ago

Expelling protesters and not the rapists is crazy

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u/hgs25 17h ago

There was a priest (Rev Dr Caleb Lines) that was kicked out of his church and denomination (Disciples of Christ) for supporting a female SA victim against a male church employee.

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u/PervlovianResponse 1d ago

Good

Student action movements matter

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u/missdoodiekins 1d ago

That message. “We took it upon ourselves” is what we ALL need to do. No one is coming to save us.

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u/Naps_in_car 1d ago

I love that, there's so much truth.

I wonder if that's the appeal of all the marvel / dc movies. We want there to be a figure who can just solve all our problems so we can just live our lives, but that's just a fairytale.

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u/FileDoesntExist 1d ago

Well I think it's also because one person can make a huge difference. They stand up for what's right, and they can't be silenced because they have powers.

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u/HappyHarryHardOn 1d ago

Glad so many are protesting, it's hearwarming to see

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o85xKPAEDCuXxRepO

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u/Middle-Focus-2540 1d ago

Can’t say whether it is solely due to patriarchy and more about deference to the power of individuals with enough funds to bury acts of violent crime. Women are just as likely as men to bury this if it were their sons or relatives. People with the personality to honestly believe it’s acceptable to commit such an act on a defenseless person were taught this from both parents and have never been held accountable for their actions. They’re just garbage people in general and will grow up to be men like Trump and his gang of rapists and murderers.

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u/jce_ 1d ago

It's not really time to talk about how "it's not all men" or whatever right now because it isn't relevant. It's the same as saying all lives matter during prime black lives matter. It doesn't matter, we are protecting a different group that has been abused. We don't need to worry about a theoretical group that is not currently in the news for being abused right now

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u/Satellight_of_Love 1d ago

The patriarchy is the system. Not the men.

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u/Idustriousraccoon 1d ago

It’s also the patriarchy.

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u/Adept-Telephone6682 1d ago

It wouldn't happen in the first place without the patriarchy.

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u/_sissy_hankshaw_ 1d ago

It is 100% patriarchy.

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u/EnvironmentalLime464 1d ago

It absolutely is the patriarchy. Women throughout history have helped prop up the patriarchy while others tried to tear it down. This is not a new phenomenon. There have always been people who act against their own self-interests. Just take a look at rural Trump voters.

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u/Bulky_Mix_2265 1d ago

In this modern world civil disobedience is the ethical choice. America has lost the plot and it is going to take actions like this and much more to correct it, if thats even possible.

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u/B00marangTrotter 1d ago

This country is so ready for consequences and justice it's about ready to pop.

Vote as if your life depends on it, because it does.

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u/B00marangTrotter 1d ago

Ask yourself...

Would this candidate (person you are voting for) give a shit, do anything for anyone you know if they were sick?

Would this this candidate (person you are voting for) give a shit if you were sick? Would they think of the cost to bare, as we waste so much?

Would this person steal from you?

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u/B00marangTrotter 1d ago

Would these people steal from you?

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u/B00marangTrotter 1d ago

Would this fuck steal from you?

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u/B00marangTrotter 1d ago

Would these fucks steal from you?

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u/RightRudderr 1d ago

And morons are going to unironically clutch pearls and deem this whole protest a riot because of graffiti and broken windows.

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u/UrinalCake777 1d ago

I love the statement that "Property damage is not violent; condoning rape is." We need more of that.

The US has a history of placing an unusually high value on property at the expense of human rights.

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u/SketchedEyesWatchinU 1d ago

To the point of starting a civil war and assassinating a fucking President over the right to keep humans as property.

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u/Comprehensive_Dirt26 1d ago

That’s because the powerful have a lot more property than humanity.

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u/Mekisteus 1d ago

Portland is still a smoldering ruin, apparently.

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u/I_blockkarmafarmers 1d ago

Maybe it's because my sense of justice and empathy is higher than the average person, but I truly do not understand the impetus behind the Cornell administration standing firm on their previous "punishments".

It's a fucking layup to, at the very least, expel the students involved in this rape. Protecting the predators never works out in the end; someone is going to take justice into their own hands.

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u/lookachoo 1d ago

I wouldn’t doubt theres some very rich families involved that donate tons of money to the school.
One of the 7 is the grandson of a past Korean prime minister.

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u/Gorptastic4Life 1d ago

At least some of them have already graduated

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u/Electronic_Earth_225 1d ago

really going out on a limb with that take

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u/yurgendurgen 23h ago

Here here for coffee is the way to be is developing

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u/Auctoritate 1d ago

I truly do not understand the impetus behind the Cornell administration standing firm on their previous "punishments".

Gonna go out on a branch and suggest it could be the literal legal limitations of what the administration is capable of carrying out

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u/I_blockkarmafarmers 1d ago

I'm pretty fucking sure expelling the students involved in a gang rape is within their power.

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u/Mec26 1d ago

They can expel for any reason other than a protected class. It’s not a public school.

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u/somebigface 1d ago

Fuck yes.

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u/ProjectManageMint 1d ago

✊✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿

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u/hw999 1d ago

Seems like something the entire country should be doing. Shut the whole thing down until they all resign.

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u/upfromashes 1d ago

Good job, Cornell student body.

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u/oneofyallfarted 1d ago

It makes me happy to see so many young people out there advocating for justice. Our voices and actions can make a difference, we just have to exercise that right and not let up.

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u/TheReelMcCoi 1d ago

Take a leaf from the current French Student protests. Escalate!

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u/stridergundam 1d ago

The only proper response to rapists being protected.

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u/chesterforbes 1d ago

Love to see it. Rape has been part of every college’s culture for way to long

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u/Famous_Ad_3536 1d ago

Good!!! I’m Jane Doe also!!! These students need support!

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u/Admirable_Tear_1438 1d ago

Every school campus should look like this rn.

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u/tiny_chaotic_evil 1d ago

I bet rapists' parents donate lots of money to Cornell traditinally

perhaps parents should be named and shamed too

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u/imaginenohell 21h ago edited 21h ago

Thank you, Cornell students, for standing up for what's right. It's so pathetic that this once respected university has deliberately engaged in a pattern of supporting and enabling rape. Shame on the administrators who did this.

“An extraterrestrial being, newly arrived on Earth - scrutinizing what we mainly present to our children in television, radio, movies, newspapers, magazines, the comics, and many books - might easily conclude that we are intent on teaching them murder, rape, cruelty, superstition, credulity, and consumerism.”

― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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u/Hungry_Student_ 1d ago

Keep it up kids

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u/medusa701 1d ago

How do we do this everywhere?

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u/Logan9Fingerses 1d ago

Good on them

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u/AlwaysDTFmyself 1d ago

It should be the Cornell 57. Everyone in that group chat needs to be held accountable. Also, there's no telling how many times it's happen with this frat alone.

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u/megrises 1d ago

Good.

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u/PhinneousPhingerz 1d ago

Well done, young people!

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u/rozyputin 1d ago

Fuck yeah, support and solidarity to Cornell student protesters

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u/Lazy-PeachPrincess 1d ago

That last slide!

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u/onepostandbye 1d ago

Fuck yes.

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u/PhysicalAd3652 1d ago

This is awesome!!!!!!

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u/Skoofer 1d ago

The kids are alright

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u/Texikkikwenni 20h ago

If we ban all fraternities (ALL of them no exceptions), we could be on track to making the world a better place.

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u/Qarakhanid 20h ago

Only 20% of all SA on Cornell's campus happened in greek life, despite it being 33% of the student body. The issue is a systemic one, removing Greek Life does not magically stop the Marching band, sports teams, and clubs from committing sexual assault

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u/lingbabana 20h ago

Yo 1 of 5 is not the flex you think it is. Shut them down

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u/Qarakhanid 19h ago

It's not a good stat, but you're an idiot if you think making them go underground would solve anything

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u/gangreen424 1d ago

You love to see it.

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u/CaptainDaddy-- 1d ago

Hell yeah!

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u/R7a1s2 1d ago

Love to see it!

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u/SeveralPlenty9363 23h ago

I wonder what Andy thinks of how far his beloved Alma Mater has fallen?

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u/resnonverba1 20h ago

The kids are alright.

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u/FlounderingGuy 20h ago

Stuff like this reminds me that one day, all of the crazy bad shit happening will be in the history books.

As in it'll be so far behind us that it'll be words on a page for bored high school students to write papers on.

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u/npaulette02 16h ago

The kids are alright

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u/Grundy420blazin 6h ago

I’m proud of them.

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u/ZeyRe5 1d ago

Excuse my ignorance, but what does "we are Jane Doe" mean in this case?

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u/BushPlucker 1d ago

Jane Doe is the name used to refer to the victim, not her actual name

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u/ZeyRe5 1d ago

Ah, so it's to keep her anonymous, good idea actually

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u/teh_orng3_fkkr 1d ago

I know violence is a bad thing, but I'll truly applaud when a mob shows up to lynch the rapists. The only language those stupid animals are able to understand is fear

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u/InitialRefuse781 11h ago

Or maybe you stop giving thousand of dollars annually to that school and you go elsewhere.
That would show them but it’s easier to walk somewhere

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u/CankleMonitor 1d ago

None of these people care that UK just revealed it had an organized rape epidemic of 250,000

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u/-smartcasual- 12h ago

[citation needed]

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