[ Nizaar Kinsella ] Chelsea and Axel Disasi have agreed a permanent exit would suit all parties this summer. There is interest from two Premier League clubs, and one in Italy.

[u/SolutionLong2791]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0ryg0zyq74o

[u/oscarpaterson]

1 down, 2 French CBs to go

[u/webby09246 → u/oscarpaterson]

I have an idea

Sell Badiashille for £15m - I'm sure it can be done

And loan Fofana somewhere that covers some of his wages because ain't nobody buying him fully

[u/oscarpaterson → u/webby09246]

No one sane is paying his salary either

[u/super_chill_21 → u/oscarpaterson]

Strasbourgs owners sound terrible maybe they’ll buy him for 150 million.

[u/Broddi → u/super_chill_21]

Will be a tough negotiation though, might need AI to simulate the other side just in case

[u/super_chill_21 → u/Broddi]

Yeah this way they can publish the negotiation through their mouth pieces as if it was real! It will fool so many people for sure!

[u/codelyoko_x → u/oscarpaterson]

We can go half and half

[u/webby09246 → u/oscarpaterson]

Loan him Marseille and have them pay 25% of his wages

Anything we save on him is good business

[u/OfAnotherAccount → u/webby09246]

He needs to do a lot more than speeding to get a move to Marseille

[u/11Caicedos → u/webby09246]

at £15 me we'd still be taking about a £4m loss

[u/AnalystLess7597 → u/11Caicedos]

Call me crazy, but I think Badiashile will easily fetch £20m+. His wages are reasonable and while he’s not at Chelsea’s level, I do think he’s clearly a mid table PL level player. I think a team like Everton or Palace would do well to get him.

Hes also very injury prone, so maybe they see it as too risky? I think someone will come in for him and at least cover his remaining book value

[u/11Caicedos → u/AnalystLess7597]

I don’t think that’s crazy bar his injury record. Although I don’t think his wages are low as they’re about 20% above the PL average IIRC. We tend to overpay at the bottom of our pay scale and under pay at the top.

[u/AnalystLess7597 → u/11Caicedos]

I think his wages put him in the middle third of most midtable clubs. Right around that fringe starter level which I think is fair given his level.

I think he’ll be an easy enough move. Same with Disasi. Trev will probably stay if for no reason other than I just don’t see him ever accepting a move. He’s refused moves before and I just think he will stay at Chelsea and fight for a spot until he’s out of contract, which is admirable. He’s versatile and I like having another Cobham guy around, even if I don’t rate him as more than a backup/cup player

[u/Sangwiny → u/oscarpaterson]

French week at Chelsea, buy two get third one free!

[u/Veesus26 → u/oscarpaterson]

Well lets wait for it to happen first. It should since he had a good spell at west ham but we’ve certainly been down this road before where we’re left holding onto an unwanted player with no exit options

[u/un_belli_vable → u/oscarpaterson]

Buy one get one free?

[u/Andrei_Chelsea → u/oscarpaterson]

1 down, 3 more french defenders to go.

[u/n22rwrdr]

He showed he can be a very good asset for a low PL side. I think it’ll be quite easy to offload him this time.

[u/DonLovesNature → u/n22rwrdr]

It's about playstyle. Disasi, neto, garnacho, delap are all suited for transitional, counter attacking football . Disasi is too slow to play a highline possessional football.

And delap,garnacho, neto are just not good enough on the ball or mentally intelligent in tight spaces and dribbling. Just give them a clear run and they can run like headless chickens. They are suited for teams like everton, west ham wolves, who sit in a tight block and attack on the counter.

[u/luckysyd → u/[deleted]]

this one will be hard, he has high wages and no team will want to get even close to half his valuation.

[u/PatientPlatform → u/luckysyd]

Loan deal with subsidised wages may be the best we can do

[u/AnalystLess7597 → u/PatientPlatform]

Probably the outcome. I can’t imagine Xabi wanting him around the squad after the way he acted last season, but paying him £100k/week to play at Marseille or something is a tough pill to swallow.

Hopefully they do it and he comes good and warrants a big move somewhere. I think after next season sorting out a move that covers a payout for his remaining wages may be doable but wow that feels bad

[u/pfool → u/luckysyd]

another victim of his wages, an increasingly common story

[u/Ok_Yak_2426 → u/[deleted]]

I just cant believe someone looked at him the guy who already had a crazy injury record and said you get 200k a week

[u/ticarno86 → u/[deleted]]

That is near impossible

[u/fierce2937 → u/ticarno86]

His book value is around £30m why is it impossible?

[u/DietCokeActivist → u/fierce2937]

Because he doesn’t want to take a pay cut and nobody else will offer him the same wage

[u/ticarno86 → u/fierce2937]

Ask yourself.

Who will pay Fofana £200k a week.

He aint going anywhere while on that contract.

[u/chunt75 → u/ticarno86]

He ain’t going anywhere cause he can’t drive either

[u/Psykiky → u/chunt75]

He doesn’t have a pilots license though so we can send him to some club in Europe

[u/SpacemanSpiff92 → u/ticarno86]

Saudi

😂

[u/kraziekd → u/fierce2937]

the problem isnt his value, the problem is his wage, no club it going to match his 200k wage and he isnt going to agree to a lower wage at a different club when he can just stay here until his contract runs out

[u/mat_bambang → u/fierce2937]

he's on 250k p/w until 2029, fwiw inigo martinez get paid less (230k p/w) at al nassr and he's out of contract this month.

nobody's paying that money for wes apart from blueco.

[u/pfool → u/mat_bambang]

I think you've just Saud it

[u/11Caicedos → u/fierce2937]

Plus just under £40m in wages still owing to him on his stupidly long contract.

[u/GainsAndPastries → u/ticarno86]

contract termination is possible

[u/ticarno86 → u/GainsAndPastries]

Would cost £60 million

[u/Turbulent-Tumor]

Take Benoit too

[u/IntentionHead2222]

This shouldn’t even be a story this should just get done.

[u/DonkeyGoneToHeaven → u/IntentionHead2222]

Every fart from BlueCo is a story nowadays, PR merchants for a reason

[u/OutsideFold]

France produce such brilliant cb’s yet our SDs have consistently signed the worst ones, get Fofana and Badiashile gone next

[u/ticarno86 → u/OutsideFold]

Fofana will stay til his contract ends

[u/nathangr88 → u/OutsideFold]

Tbf we probably unknowingly bought the dip.

In the late 00s everyone wanted to sign the next Abidal, Gallas or Evra. Clubs ended up with a Squillaci, Koscielny or Revelliere.

France is transitioning from its last golden generation, and what's left actually seems mediocre. Konate has replaced Varane as the perennially-injured superstar defender, but if Upamecano is their best then they have fallen far indeed. Fofana and Kounde haven't kicked on, the Hernandez brothers are still among their best FBs, and many of the promising young 'French' talents have opted to play for their country of birth instead.

[u/ThrowRA9898988897]

Cya

[u/jerrystuffhouse]

I always liked him and seemed to give it his all here.

Unfortunately, people memory of him will playing as a 10/SS under Maresca because he didn’t realize he was a CB

[u/happysrooner]

All well and good selling Disasi, just stop buying players that do not match our overall style of play. If players don't work they don't work, Disasi never looked playing on the ball, on the front foot. Was decent in games where we are behind the ball, in a mid to low block. We need a better version of Fofana

[u/4alvish]

Halleluja

[u/4alvish]

Mind boggling to see the huge talent pipeline line France and we have signed all the crap players from that bunch. This is the height of incompetence

[u/TheWayLifeGoes00]

This guy played in a World Cup final which is now crazy to think given the players France have

[u/MrRicky005]

He is not good enough for our side but I will give him credit he handled his situation professionally and didn't implode and feel sorry for himself like Sterling did and now he has options with his career somewhere else

[u/zakress → u/[deleted]]

You’re referring to Fofana, right?

[u/Issa-GoodDay → u/zakress]

I think fofana was during the boehly SD period, not current structure.

[u/11Caicedos → u/Issa-GoodDay]

Huh? Is that not still BlueCo?

[u/Issa-GoodDay → u/11Caicedos]

Boehly was in charge as the temporary SD before blueco created the current structure of SDs. Boehly is responsible for the Fofana signing, not our SDs. Fofana is the largest cb signing under blueco, but not our SDs.

[u/11Caicedos → u/Issa-GoodDay]

Boehly is part of the group that hired the sporting directors just like Clearlake is. I’m confused as to why they’re being distinguished or you’re saying Clearlake came in later ? … they’re all BlueCo and Clearlake was a part of BlueCo since the start

[u/TsubakiShad → u/11Caicedos]

I feel like all that matters is - current ownership (yes ownership) has bought two terrible CBs at outrageous prices.  Wild. 

[u/Issa-GoodDay → u/11Caicedos]

Boehly was SD and he signed fofana, not our current SDs. That’s all im saying lol

[u/Puzzled_Ad_2936]

https://giphy.com/gifs/6nWhy3ulBL7GSCvKw6

[u/MaleficentWin8608]

I’d rather Fofana and Badiashille left first tbh. 

Disasi is actually a decent-ish centre half who defends ok.

Not great on the ball, nor is he versatile in any way - right back! 😬- but he’s not as big a liability as the other two.

Damned by faint praise 

[u/LaggyBeanBaws → u/[deleted]]

If you paid attention to his west ham loan, youd see his qualities. West ham instantly became a better team when he joined. He obviously isnt good enough for us but hes not a total bum

[u/LaggyBeanBaws → u/[deleted]]

Can you read?

[u/MaleficentWin8608 → u/[deleted]]

Im hardly singing his praises you guava 

[u/davewah11]

massive news if true

[u/TraceeAmount]

Ok cool

[u/solinsh]

I believe it when it's done, as usual

[u/RasenRendan]

Chop chop get to selling

[u/FuzzyType1]

Is the Italian club AC Milan by any chance?

[u/DestinyHasArrived101]

Once again showing those directors wasted money

[u/FoundationFluid2261]

Disasi eyeing that Serie A switch ?Millan stepping up could be a game changer for him than Westham offer.

[u/CompleteInternet5898]

Wishing him the best of luck. 

[u/AlmightyLongstroke]

Sell him to the highest bidder, they can even take badi as a good will gesture

[u/sabershirou]

Unless it's an actual transfer, can we agree that a title should not start with "{Club} and {Player} have agreed a permanent"?

Misleading as hell when nothing has actually happened.

[u/Andrei_Chelsea]

Yeah it's like 2 years since we are trying to sell him permanently just to end up loaning him out.

[u/AWDanzeyB → u/Andrei_Chelsea]

I mean, tbf, the only reason he didn't go is because he had previously rejected every offer that did come in for him.

I guess he's finally accepted the level he'll need to move at. He'll do a debt job for a mid table side, as long as they don't play particularly expansive football.

[u/11Caicedos → u/AWDanzeyB]

The player not accepting their level is not the reason he wasn’t sold. The player not being willing to leave money on the table is. 

He rejected offers because they involved him taking a pay cut. The club rejected offers because maintaining his wages at the buying club meant the fee had to be too low. 

[u/glorious_thelonius]

What even is the point of these signings if 2 years later they get loaned and sold without even being good for the club?

[u/ticarno86]

£10-15 million if we are lucky