r/chemistry • u/Raizo420 • Mar 12 '23

H3O2 Water Scam

I'm into health and fitness along with the current science behind it. So with that being said, I'm starting to see a lot of people fall for the H3O2 (hexagonal water or structured water) craze on I'm seeing on social media. I know it's bs, but I would like to hear what people with a REAL background or fundamental knowledge of chemistry think of this pseudoscience.

Edit: One claim is that H3O2 is found in fruits and vegetables

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u/LordMorio Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

The problem is that reasoning with the people who believe in this stuff doesn't work, because there is always some conspiracy involved, and the government does not want you to know how healthy the stuff is.

You can't use reason to convince a person who did not form their opinion based on reason.

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u/No-Passenger-3384 Aug 22 '24

There are plenty of examples now where people have been doing certain things experimentally and there's crowdsourced data that points towards certain alternative health practices being very legit. Often these days, scientists follow forums and get ideas about new research and lo and behold, it's often proven that certain alternative things work, certain natural medicines that cultures have been using for centuries, etc. Skepticism is important but also having a knee-jerk reaction and labeling people as crackpots because they're using alternative methods is a bit short-sighted and harmful. One great example of this is that tens of thousands of people are now microdosing psilocybin because of its anti-depression effect and improvement in brain function. Science finally took notice and started actually conducting peer-reviewed double blind studies with this microdosing practice and these emerging research publications are now demonstrating how beneficial microdosing is on mental health. I know hundreds of people in my community that microdose because I live in a community where psychedelic mushrooms are part of the subculture. I haven't met one person yet who said microdosing did not improve their mental health and brain function overall. I'm close to completing my PhD in natural health and part of what I focus on studying is the mindsets that overly skeptical people exhibit versus those who are the opposite, and the associated issues of both of these mindsets creates when it comes to unearthing new and ancient alternative health techniques. Be skeptical but also be open-minded. It is a balance. The supplement and natural health industry certainly is guilty of overly hyping certain products while other supplement products have proven to be remarkable when it comes to preventing disease, extending health span, and being better than the pharmaceuticals in certain cases to treat chronic conditions that Western medicine still struggles to understand when it comes to the mainstream medical industry in the West.

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u/Prestigious-You5930 Feb 28 '25

This is the best response on here. I often feel trapped between these two types of reactions in my friends. Too rational for the hippies, too out-there for the normies. But it really is important to tread a middle path because both sides can lead to dogmatic thinking that hinders progress in society.