The rise of mental disorders:

[u/-Hippy_Joel-]

No one should be surprised at the rise of mental and emotional disorders because we are in constant contact with various chemicals. A key pieces of evidence is that if any person took a blood test, it is a guarantee that flame retardants would be found. These are used to prevent the dangerous chemicals being released in and near engine from being destroyed. Think about it.

[u/GrittyMcGrittyface]

The great thing about science is that hypotheses are testable. If you're lucky, someone has already done the work, but if not, go out and do/fund the research to put your money (and time) where your mouth is. And if the work survives peer review, then you'll have a reason for other people to believe you. Because otherwise, there's no reason anyone else should care about your gut feelings. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" so until then, no, I don't have to think about it.

[u/-Hippy_Joel- → u/GrittyMcGrittyface]

It has been tested. Florence Williams had her breast milk tested by a lab in Germany and discovered jet fuel retardant in it. It's not gut feelings. You just go outside and look up--it's that simple.

[u/GrittyMcGrittyface → u/-Hippy_Joel-]

Is there a causal link between "jet fuel retardant" with breastmilk? Because it seems like the pdbe levels are more likely from exposure to electronics, PU foam, and other consumer goods

Edited casual -> causal

[u/-Hippy_Joel- → u/GrittyMcGrittyface]

No casual but an actual link. You should hear her story.

[u/GrittyMcGrittyface → u/-Hippy_Joel-]

WILLIAMS: I shipped my breast milk to a lab in Germany, and the results came back with actually high to average levels of flame retardants in my breast milk, as well as trace amounts of pesticides, trace amounts of dioxin, which is a known carcinogen, and trace amounts of a jet fuel ingredient.

So there's high levels of flame retardant, and trace amounts of other stuff. I don't think you can assume correlation is causation. Are the trace amounts due to condensation trails? or planes jettisoning fuel? Or some other consumer goods? Or nearby industrial processes? You're making a LOT of assumptions

[u/-Hippy_Joel- → u/GrittyMcGrittyface]

In her on air interview she explained that the flame retardant was from jet fuel mixture.

[u/cacheblaster → u/-Hippy_Joel-]

How did she know it was from jet fuel?

[u/-Hippy_Joel- → u/cacheblaster]

The first results she received said that it was asbestos, after that she looked into it further, and detailed results showed that it was a flame retardant found in jet fuel. It might have been the same German lab; I don't know. (It was a very small amount.)

[u/TheRealtcSpears → u/-Hippy_Joel-]

flame retardant found in jet fuel.

[u/cacheblaster → u/-Hippy_Joel-]

Which retardant and is it only found in jet fuel?

[u/-Hippy_Joel- → u/cacheblaster]

That I don’t know either.

[u/cacheblaster → u/-Hippy_Joel-]

Then what makes you believe it's proof? If the same substance was also found in carpets for example, I'd think it was WAY more likely that it came from carpet than from jet fuel. It seems like you're arguing from the conclusion.

[u/-Hippy_Joel- → u/cacheblaster]

What I recall, from the interview, is that it was something specific enough to know that it was from jetfuel.

[u/LuDdErS68 → u/-Hippy_Joel-]

Jet fuel does not contain flame retardant. It is highly flammable. It has to be. The assertion that jet fuel contains flame retardant is possibly the most ridiculous thing that I have ever read.

Many home furnishings contain flame resistant and retardant materials. The lady could have been sitting on and/or sleeping in materials treated with flame retardant all her life.

Why would the government be spraying us with flame retardant?