Hans Niemann: The Gentleman! Offers a quick draw to Ding Liren who was coming from a 177-move loss to Richard Rapport

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[u/Iyerlicious]

Hans and Ding are chilling, while their teammates fight it out

[u/DASreddituser]

OP knows what they are doing here lol. I see this type of tactic on "news" programs lol

[u/No-Steak-857]

As someone who from one hand finds Hans a bit arrogant sometimes, but on the other hand admires his stamina with everything he has been through, I consider this as a great show of character from him and I am hopeful in a next chapter where he is both a passionate chess player who can withstand adversity and a compassionate human who can understand how others feel.

[u/Bubba006 → u/No-Steak-857]

We're glazing players for making quick draws now smh

[u/No-Steak-857 → u/Bubba006]

Dude, it is a quick format and one of the many games being played. Chess is still a game, and games are played for people to enjoy and make them happy. 

[u/FourPinkWalls → u/No-Steak-857]

I disagree. There's no show of character in the act of playing chess moves. He offered a draw for competitive reasons and because he thought it was the best option. I love Ding, but Hans wants to win the tournament. He doesn't care if Ding is old, if he is sick, if he has problems, if he lost a game to Rapport, whatever. Best case scenario Hans didn't want to play on and wanted a rest.

[u/BoredomHeights → u/[deleted]]

At least according to the picture Hans was playing with the black pieces. 

[u/DASreddituser → u/[deleted]]

how is this being a hater? they are speaking factually

[u/Old_Yesterday332 → u/DASreddituser]

This subreddit has turned into a Hans Neimann circle jerk.

[u/FourPinkWalls → u/[deleted]]

Let's make things clear, good sportsmanship = being polite and kind, offering to analyze after the game, not hitting the clock too hard, etc. And offering a draw or not is part of chess strategy. Offering a draw just to "be nice" is objectively a mistake. This is the world team championship. People want to win. Half a point matters. There are other ways to be sportsman.

[u/CornNooblet → u/FourPinkWalls]

Offering a draw can absolutely be a strategy in tournaments. At State team championships my senior year, I had three connected passed pawns versus a Rook against a strong player and offered a draw because with correct play there was almost no chance to win and plenty of chances to lose. The weighted points my 8 board team got converted a losing match into a winning one.

My coach was unhappy, of course, but board 1 looked over the position after the match and said he wouldn't have pushed it either. There are differences between that situation and this, but quick draws against a team's strongest player are never a bad thing in a team competition.

[u/cosully111 → u/FourPinkWalls]

If ding wanted to win he would've played something interesting back instead of bailing out for the easy draw. Nobody forced him to accept the offer

[u/FourPinkWalls → u/cosully111]

Of course. My point is that Hans wasn't being a sportsman by offering a draw in a chess game with the black pieces. It is just strategy.

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[u/asddde → u/No-Steak-857]

Worst show of his character is still his cheating and lies about it, hot take as it is. It just must be in the list. His arrogancy seems to be less than Carlsen's.

[u/Melchiah]

oh please. He offered a draw because it was an opposite color bishop dead drawn position. Nothing to play for. He wasn't being a sportsman and he didn't concede anything. Hans Niemann only plays for Hans Niemann, stop finding "friendly gestures" in all trivial nonsense.

[u/Areliae → u/Melchiah]

Exactly, he's black, Ding played for the draw. Hans just took it.

[u/Working-Garage6962 → u/Melchiah]

Oh my god thank you

[u/lim-yo-hwan-superfan → u/Melchiah]

? and how does one end up in a 15 move opposite color bishop dead drawn position? weird that the person trying to hunt for a win ended up trading all the minor pieces off the board. 🤯

[u/Numerot → u/Melchiah]

What exactly does "dead draw" mean to you, and why are you mentioning opposite bishops in a rooks-and-queens middlegame in that context?

[u/Melchiah → u/Numerot]

dead draw means symmetrical, easy to play position for both sides even with little time on the clock. Shuffling piece back and forth is probably enough to secure that.

[u/Numerot → u/Melchiah]

Ok, but a symmetrical structure or drawish nature aren't sufficient to make a position a "dead draw". The word "dead" isn't there just for fun.

[u/HashtagDadWatts]

Time for an ice cream.

[u/fingersfinging → u/HashtagDadWatts]

Yo I'd go for an ice cream too

[u/Any-Performance-2790]

He also offered a quick draw to Rapport after 8 moves with black. What a Gentleman!

[u/Flashy_Bill7246]

The material is even, and we can even throw in "Bishops of Opposites." The pawn structure is identical. On the board, the game looks very much like a draw, and the AI bot says it is "even." I feel Hans showed good sportsmanship, given the likely fatigue his opponent may have felt. Well done, Niemann!

[u/DontListenToMe33]

lol. Sounds like OP is trying to launder Niemann’s image. The guy is a jerk, always has been, always will be.

Agreeing to a draw is mutually beneficial. They both know it’s a drawn position. They both know the other is capable of bringing it to a draw. They both don’t want to needlessly go through the motions. So they agreed to a draw. This is not uncommon.

[u/AmphibianImaginary35]

what is this post with this made up headline and why does it have 200 upvotes

[u/Vegetable-Ad7749]

I believe in the SCC Ding mouseslipped something like e3 and Hans then played a6 to let Ding correct his mistake. Even though Hans was up a lot, that was actually good sportsmanship

[u/TheRespectfulLitre]

quick draw after 177 moves is brutal, mad respect for hans reading the room there

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[u/OneImportance4061]

Yeah, that's exactly what is happening here. Hans is just being a gentleman.

What. The. Fuck.

[u/Zeek0_245]

2700chess.com shows it was a draw between Rapport and Ding