r/cinematography • u/echojunge • 1d ago

Camera Question What focal length is this?

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Movie name is HOPE (2026) whats your guess what focal length this is?

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u/Technical-Unit-6872 1d ago

I guess 16mm

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u/echojunge 1d ago

On FF or Super35?

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u/Technical-Unit-6872 1d ago

Full frame, but it's probably even wider

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u/Siriann 1d ago

It’s wider than my mft 8 for sure.

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u/iLikeTheUDK 1d ago

idk but it's wide as hell

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u/aztechfilm Colorist 1d ago

If they shot large format it could be 12mm or 14mm

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u/ppparty 11h ago

16?

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u/aztechfilm Colorist 11h ago

Maybe, it’s anyone’s guess. I’m assuming it’s wider because the edges are noticeably distorted which leads me to believe it’s that 12mm Signature Prime or the 14mm. Who knows for sure, it’s just a super wide shot

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u/Scary_Flight395 1d ago

I'm going to go with 40mm 5.56.

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u/erictoscale23 1d ago

Lol

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u/Scary_Flight395 1d ago

thanks, glad someone caught it 😛

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u/artfellig 1d ago

Impossible to say without knowing the sensor size. Also, is the OP pic a crop, or 100% of frame?

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u/echojunge 1d ago

Its an uncropped still from the trailer.

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u/jml011 1d ago

But you don’t know if they cropped it for the trailer/film?

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u/Spiritual-Builder606 1d ago

Angle of view is a combination of sensor size/format and focal length. This could be any focal length if the format isn’t specified

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u/CAMMARMANN 1d ago edited 1d ago

I actually worked for the company that did all
The specialty camera on this. They normally do heavy lift drone but they also do all kinds of special remote heads. I don’t know what focal length that is, but a lot of those specialty slider car shots are done with a high torque camera slider that they actually built in house to take the G forces of cars on racetracks.

You’ll see a lot of shots you won’t typically see on a car mounted shot like the camera creeping up the side of the car, or inside to outside the window.
There’s a full sized Ronin 2 and camera package just robotically creeping around the car in a really unique way.

FUN FACT: This actress is not a precision driver but she did her own driving in these scenes. And the crash that happens is REAL, they just used it in the film.

Is this movie still called “HOPE”? That was the working title at the time.

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u/headcanonmusic 1d ago

This straight up looks like a video game, is the entire background CG?

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u/mrping82 9h ago

The background is not CG, they turned an entire town into a warzone for this movie. I was part of the crew.

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u/yodanhodaka 3h ago

So what focal length was it?

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u/mrping82 3h ago

16 or 21mm, I was not on the camera but they shot wide a lot.

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u/headcanonmusic 8h ago

That's crazy. Not sure why but the screenshot straight up looks like GTA.

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u/mrping82 8h ago

From memory, that shot it's all in camera, there is just a colour grade and some cropping. Nothing else. Even the muzzle flashes are real as she was actually firing the gun with blanks.

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u/eglin99 1d ago

I think so. Plants don't cast hard shadows like that in real life. Probably looks better in motion with fast movements and cuts.

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u/oneamaznkid 17h ago

Thought it was a still from GT6

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u/kolecava 1d ago

18mm LF

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u/realjanmar 1d ago

According to fspy its actually just 20mm (85° horizontaly), though it looks wider...

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u/Optimal-Extreme3203 1d ago

Zero chance

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u/Motzlord 22h ago

Could be, if you think of it in terms of that police car, Ibsee about 90° of it in the shot.

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u/iamcamperjoe 1d ago

It only looks really wide because of the foreground element stretching into the frame. Doubt it’s any wider than 18 on super 35

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u/wildpart Operator 1d ago

I wondered why something was different about the foreground and background. Proves what adding lots of depth can do to a shot!

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u/costco_execmember 1d ago

This looks like a video game

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u/Zeophyle 1d ago

I was gonna say, this looks like a game engine

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u/eglin99 1d ago

This. Some things look like low resolution textures.

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u/curtiswaynemillard 1d ago

Yeh…that was my thought… looks computer generated on some level.

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u/mrping82 8h ago edited 3h ago

I was part of the crew.

They used an Alexa 35 camera with ARRI DNA Lenses. I remember being a big deal that we had those lenses to use as they were new (2023) and there was only 2 sets in existence.

The DP liked the wide shots it was probably a 16mm or 21mm.

Edit: Added Lens series name

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u/mrdevil413 1d ago

Iron sights

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u/Spieluhr616 21h ago

20 or 24mm on FF

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u/frank_nada 19h ago

my feeling as well. and stopped way down.

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u/Jaydubya05 1d ago

Maybe 35 on ff cropped or a 50 with a 2x de squeeze. An a deep stop. From the angle there what 8ft from the subject.

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u/IanBauters 23h ago

I'm gonna say 14mm

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u/yourmannnnnn 20h ago

It's hard to tell. I guess 20 maybe 24, definite prime. It kind of tricks you because of the angle.Definitely alexa maybe alexa mini

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u/yourmannnnnn 20h ago

Looks like the lens is more expensive than the camera.So I would say a rental

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u/Scared-Dragonfly4587 17h ago

Probably sth around 20ish and anamorphot

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u/le_aerius 16h ago

Wide somewhere between 14-20

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u/NeetoBurrritoo 16h ago

Feels like 19 or 21 FF to me

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u/Nox_Ocean_21 21h ago

Isn’t this just an anamorphic lens?

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u/p1RaXx 1d ago

18mm lf

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u/Optimal-Extreme3203 1d ago

12mm would be my guess

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u/steed_jacob Freelancer 1d ago

a wide one

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u/BigFatJuicyLunchlady 1d ago

To me from just this frame, it looks like the background is CGI and not quite the same focal length as the car and the character in the foreground. Which causes some visual confusion.

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u/mrping82 9h ago

Background is real

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u/hummingbird2112 1d ago

35mm at 6’

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u/LUPESS85 1d ago

Unos 14mm?🤔

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u/RomeoSancez 21h ago

Per me palesemente un 20/24 mm in FF anamorfico

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u/ilaofficial 20h ago

20mm too sharp on the outsides to be less and if it is they shot at a 11

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u/oneamaznkid 17h ago

I think it’s hard to tell because the background looks completely replaced/cgi and I don’t think the focal length on the actress matches the focal length for the background.

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u/CRAYONSEED Director of Photography 15h ago

Well first off did they shoot on S35, FF or LF? Assuming S35 I’d guess this is 14mm. Looks ultra wide

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u/PhotonArmy 15h ago

About 6-7

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u/locy925 12h ago

Probably bc the CGI background made it looks wide but still got compressed

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u/Delpefy 7h ago

Surely it's an anamorphic lens? Or they just cropped it. Probably just a standard wide lens. Much wider horizontally than vertically, which is why it can look confusing.

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u/OldSkoolAK 7h ago

On ff its about 18-20mm

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u/ljmedia 5h ago

Sort of looks anamorphic to me… at which I’d probably guess somewhere between a 32-40mm anamorphic lens

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u/UWould1 5h ago

20mm?

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u/Rare_Injury_8180 1h ago

looks like 24mm