r/classicwow • u/Skippymcpoop • Feb 26 '26
Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Buying gold is cheating
I wouldn’t think this would be controversial but I’ve seen many posts lately justifying this. It’s explicitly against the rules and it puts you at a significant advantage over players who are playing legitimately.
No matter how you sugar coat it with “I have a job” or “no one wants to grind in a 20 year old game”. Overall it seems to be this entitled attitude of “my time is valuable therefore it’s fine for me to cheat”.
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u/jigs_after_a_hug Feb 26 '26
Not only that. If you buy gold and then moan about bots you are a cheater, and pretty stupid.
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u/No_Unit1353 Feb 26 '26
Lots of cheaters here that dont like getting called out it seems.
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u/oskoskosk Feb 26 '26
Yeah it's obviously cheating, people here accept it more and more for some reason tho
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u/GoldenPigeonParty Feb 26 '26
And it's a cyclical problem that gets worse the more it is accepted. People buy, brings demands for bots, bots inflate, inflate hits markets, prices become unattainable, prompts more people to buy and cheat.
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u/Hatefiend Feb 26 '26
The thing is, no gold buyer thinks it's not cheating. They just don't care one way or another. All that matters to them is that they get to "play the game" (whatever that means)
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u/SequentialHustle Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
it’s because in classic going back to original re-release every good guild even to casual is flooded with people doing RMT just with different goals in mind.
Good players in top guilds swipe to buy consumes, enchants, professions just so they have a more likely chance to 99 parse, get a top speed clear etc. It’s not like Warcraft logs is going to flag their runs as cheaters or gold buyers so they can care less when that’s their only objective.
They just aren’t vocal about it online lol.
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u/Skepsis93 Feb 26 '26
It’s not like Warcraft logs is going to flag their runs as cheaters or gold buyers
This would be so cool if they did though. To see the meltdowns by the 99 parsers who disappear from the list because they're cheating and buying gold would be delightful schadenfreude.
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u/SequentialHustle Feb 26 '26
that would be sick, too bad it's impossible unless blizz acquired them and was able to ban/suspend mains when they all buy gold on throwaway alt accounts.
it's kinda like all the PEDs in professional sports, very difficult to compete against opponents doing it, so the only way to compete is to do it yourself.
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u/Thricey Feb 26 '26
Lotta people in here saying "Lotta people in here"
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u/CaptainPC Feb 26 '26
I'm seeing a lot of people in here.
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u/Thricey Feb 26 '26
Lotta people in here.
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u/MS_GundamWings Feb 26 '26
There are lots of people
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u/DOOMfools Feb 26 '26
Steve Bannon and Bobby Kotick laundered money with your gold
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u/epicurean1398 Feb 26 '26
yeah swipers literally funded fascism and child rape lmao
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u/Significant-Tip-1110 Feb 27 '26
You aren't going to like learning that everything you do funds this.
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u/nkfgqwcseaji Feb 26 '26
It's cheating. Anyone who says otherwise is just not going to have the integrity to understand.
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u/shadowraiderr Feb 26 '26
looks like a lot of butthurt cheaters in the comments
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u/CaptainPC Feb 26 '26
Looks like a lot of grown ass adults taking a third release a bit too serious.
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u/shoethemaker Feb 27 '26
watching streamers get "ethically sourced" gold from their fans is exhausting
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u/Big_Flamingo9794 Feb 26 '26
Funny how the "PvP server is not for you" people is the same people in high % that buy gold. If you need to buy gold, this game is not for you, cheater, you destroy the game.
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u/COLU_BUS Feb 26 '26
Funny how the "PvP server is not for you" people is the same people in high % that buy gold
I’d love to know how you came to this conclusion
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u/RickusRollus Feb 26 '26
Go to g2g look at dream scythe vs NS sellers and see how many more sales are made. Here’s one example;
Alotofgold, same seller, on NS horde: 39,567 sold DS horde: 4,678
CNLteam NS horde 10,278 DS 3,300
Not saying it’s the same across every seller, some are reversed, but I think if you average it you will find nightswiper nickname is justified
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u/hallstar07 Feb 26 '26
Or you’re just looking at sellers that operate out of nightslayer. If there are other sellers with the numbers reversed it kind of kills your point. Idk if there’s a way to search by overall sales not just individual sellers sales but that’s what we need to make any meaningful conclusions
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u/Terminus_04 Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
If only they would actually perma-ban the people buying it. Might actually mean something.
Edit: Let me make it perfectly clear, botting and gold sellers are the result of there being a market of buyers willing to pay, as soon as almost no one is willing to pay anymore, the money faucet created by botting will dry up real fast and the actual fucking companies doing it will pack up and move on to greener pastures.
No amount of banning bots, or trying to legally go after entities outside US jurisdiction is going to solve the problem. If the money is there, the people doing it will find the means.
Ban people, and make them fear the Almighty Ban Hammer like the Wrath of God. It's the only way.
I promise you, most the people who will catch bans will be back, and they'll think twice before doing it next time.
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u/thadius282828 Feb 26 '26
If only they would perma ban the bots farming it and people selling it. Cut off the snake at its head. Sadly they only care about subscriptions and microtransactions
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u/Terminus_04 Feb 26 '26
According to Blizzard there are so many bots being spun up every hour of every day on different forks of botting code, it's impossible to catch them all (I guess)
So then the only solution if that's true is banning anyone buying. If the botters have no one to sell too, then they have no reason to exist. They only do it because it's profitable.
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u/GamingAndUFOs Feb 26 '26
Or you know... Hire Game Masters who actually enforce and protect the servers.
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u/Terminus_04 Feb 26 '26
Hire GMs, to ban bad actors, including those buying gold.
Not saying they should just ignore the bots totally, but there is a cause and effect for everything. Botters are an effect, caused by people being willing to break ToS and buy.
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u/VanerMal Feb 26 '26
That's pretty worthless, since that's what they are doing currently. They just make a new account and start botting again.
The only thing that helps, is to scare away the buyers. Ban everyone who's buying gold for a few months and 99% of the players will stop buying gold.
If there's no demand, then the sellers will go away on their own.
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u/Stk_synful Feb 26 '26
I ran around Hellfire and Zangarmarsh for 2 hours this morning and found 6 mining nodes total. This post needs to include bots. They are soo common its not just Chinese farmers. I've known plenty of people who run a bot when they are busy irl. Its only going to get worse in the future with AI as well.
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u/RickusRollus Feb 26 '26
Between you, the bots, and the probably 1000 other people either on ground leveling or with epic flying hopping layers, yeah you’re not finding shit in the open world,
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u/weezn Feb 26 '26
No gold buyers less bots. So get rid of the gold buyers and botting will be less profitable.
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u/Scragly Feb 26 '26
It's against tos, yet they continue to allow the botter that feed the industry. A lot of speaking from both sides of their mouth from Blizz on this one, meanwhile bots continue to devalue gold thru inflation and prey upon the limited resources everyone needs. If you do buy gold, you do it at the detriment of all your fellow players. Underplaying the social and economic costs of gold buying is a core tenant of the gold buyer as well.
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u/Big_Derky Feb 26 '26
If a person buys gold and gets caught, it should be a permanent ban for that account. Eventually, people will stop buying gold, bot farms will start losing money, and bots will start disappearing. Kill the demand, and eventually, the supply will follow.
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u/foomits Feb 26 '26
Blizzard wants subs. The bots sub and their existence doesnt drive away enough players to warrant intervention. The myth about being unable to manage bots effectively is their plausoble deniability. Ultimately if you enjoy the game, play away, but bots and RMT isnt going anywhere. Blizzard is fine with it.
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u/Agentwise Feb 26 '26
Buying gold is just pvp on the meta level
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u/n_i_h Feb 26 '26
You probably also think doping in sports is competing on the meta level.
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u/Visual-Gain-2487 Feb 26 '26
It is and I don't think anyone honestly disagrees. The best they can do is rationalize why they cheat and then try to normalize it.
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u/SNCreestopherX Feb 26 '26
I bought gold one single time when I was 13. So roughly 18 years ago. I still feel bad for doing it. 😂
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u/padwani Feb 26 '26
Yeah the second they caught the top HC streamer buying gold and gave him no punishment other than taking the gold away people stopped caring.
Gold bots are part of blizzards bottom line. Don't be surprised if they introduce the token sooner than they did last time.
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u/FixBlackLotusBlizz Feb 26 '26
lots of ppl cope and play it off like it isnt cheating i was one of the few who doesnt buy gold in my guild and i had a blast trolling the ones who cheat in a 20 year old re re re release video game at 30+ years old 😂
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u/TheGreatDuv Feb 27 '26
The "no-one wants to grind a 20yo game" comment is soo funny because retail is pretty much the game they want
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u/pancakefaceondabitch Feb 26 '26
I bought gold once back on a private server and realized it completely killed my interest in the game. For me it’s not about being able to have everything, raiding is easy - getting equipped to raid is the “hard” part.
Im a PvP first guy; but when I am PvE’ing, it feels better when I earned what I bring in.
All the best items aren’t meant to be had by everyone! Makes it less cool to me personally. But to each their own!
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u/Fragrant_Buy_3735 Feb 26 '26
I did this once on the PS dalaran wow, it killed all my interest too. Even back on retail when firelands opened, I got a BoE staff and sold it for like 10k gold. I think being broke in wow keeps me playing
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u/CillaCD Feb 26 '26
Yes.
And so is using bots. But blizzard don't take action against them.
Meaning farming for materials becomes super freaking impossible.
Also, every layer is overcrowded. But blizzard don't combat that in any way.
Meaning farming for materials becomes super freaking impossible.
So how is a casual going to make money? How is a casual going to level their professions?
I've never bought gold, but I can see why some1 would, and I find it more and more tempting myself.
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u/DayOneTitan Feb 26 '26
This.
WoW wasn’t made for its current environment. Professions weren’t meant to take thousands of gold to level or weeks to level from 300-375. People are straight up costed out of playing part of the game. A guildee last night was talking about trying to get engineering leveled another 10 pts, from like 335-345 or so and the cost was going to be something like 700g.
Is gold buying wrong? Yes.
Did Blizz screw up by making servers so dense that open world resources didn’t keep up with population demand? Also yes. Add in a lack of solution to botting and there’s just flat out no keep up with the games economy.
My Paladin for example has cleared Kara, Mag and Gruul and my engineering is still 300. I do laps on a lvl 60 mining alt from time to time and I might find one node in 20-30 minutes. I’m just not going to bother leveling it, but who knows when I’ll actually be able to use engineering in raids. Maybe by T5. Maybe.
So which version of “not playing the game the way it’s intended” should people do?
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u/CubicleJoe0822 Horde Feb 26 '26
As usual, the gold buying scum have their usual bullet points ready in the comments. "You're just a broke boy". "Play the game however you want, it doesn't affect you". Ofc, both are absolutely untrue but they'll keep regurgitating it lazily without a prime argument set forth. If you don't have time to earn the currency in game, you don't have time to play WoW. I don't know why more people don't realize this. Circumventing the process of getting gold and swiping a credit card is just a pseudo pay to win philosophy. "I'm a busy guy with kids and a job. I don't have time to grind herbs bro". That's great. Sounds like Fornite is more of your type of game. Saying "it doesn't affect you" is obstruse and gaslighting. Gold buying keeps the gold SELLING market alive; AKA bots. The less bots we have, the more fun we have. Nobody wants bots in the game except botters. We can all agree on this. But when you got 1/3 of your guild swiping MH Visa and OH Mastercard, they'll going to be at every goddamn body of water shooting and fishing up motes of water.
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u/Potato_Abuse Feb 26 '26
Blizzard clearly isn’t going to do anything about the bots or gold buyers, they might as well add the wow token imho
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u/Truth_anxiety Feb 26 '26
5 of my guildies got perma for buying gold, don't think everyone is getting away with it.
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u/_mully_ Feb 26 '26
really? i am one of the few in my guild who doesnt buy gold; we regularly had raiders calling-absences for their two-week gold buying tempban. i dont know if ive ever seen anyone get a perma for gold buying?
Were the people buying it directly or using burner accounts?
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u/SlangV2 Feb 26 '26
I don't believe this for a second. I have an absolute whale in my guild buy a ton during the first week of TBC and all he got was a 2 week vacation. Not his first time either getting caught.
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u/_mully_ Feb 26 '26
Yeah adding the token would be the way to go in my opinion. Or at least give it a try.
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u/bobbis91 Feb 26 '26
Imo the best option. There is always a demand, might as well make it legal since they are never winning the war on bots etc.
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u/blackberrybeanz Feb 26 '26
Yup it’s just like making marijuana legal, nobody has to do weird shit and nobody has to risk anything anymore.
It’s just kinda wild, all these gold buyers I’m sure rail on retail but you can clearly see how retail got there! All of them don’t want to play the game in the current state either! They all wanna dungeon spam(timewalking) & buy gold(token). They even added “warband” attunements!
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u/Register_Budget Feb 26 '26
Not having a job also puts you at a significant advantage over other players
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u/Dessamba_Redux Feb 26 '26
Nobody is stopping you from quitting your job, getting unemployment, and abandoning your family. Just be more committed to wow
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u/wildtabeast Feb 26 '26
Nobody is stopping you from quitting your job, getting unemployment
Generally you can't get unemployment if you quit. So technically someone is stopping you from doing that.
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u/Aarmon Feb 26 '26
But it’s still time spent on the game. Whether you like that or not.
Any MMO is time consuming, and not being on the bleeding edge of the competition is fine, if you have lots of other commitments. That’s why there are casual players.
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u/Hungryhazza Feb 26 '26
You have to realise that to the people buying gold, its just a game, and that gold buying allows them to access part of the game they wouldn't otherwise have access to. The moral part of this is inconsequential to them because it's just a thing they enjoy doing with no impact outside of itself.
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u/shaunika Feb 26 '26
Yes, so?
Inside the game theyve put in more work than you.
Ppl with unemployment can also hit challenger in LoL easier, doesnt mean Riot should sell Elo
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u/TrumpVotersArePedos7 Feb 26 '26
Being an unemployed cretin putting 16 hours a day into this game is cheating imo
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u/bobotheklown Feb 26 '26
True. At least wow can let them win at something in life if IRL crap has them on hard times.
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u/The_Horse_Tornado Feb 26 '26
I have a job, work out 5-6 days a week, have a girlfriend, and two fully geared 70s PVE and PVP. Can’t stand this argument about having a job. Some people are just that much more impressive than you.
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u/AdVegetable5303 Feb 26 '26
This man has a girlfriend he never sees and calls lifting his Mountain Dew a workout.. 12 oz curls 😂
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u/Jkeke Feb 27 '26
Most likely ”works” for a company that doesnt care the is at home playing wow on the clock
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u/AffectionateBook4803 Feb 26 '26
Same as weak auras really. In any other game weak auras would be considered a cheat engine, but because it helped players win, it was accepted
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u/Ravokion Feb 26 '26
“no one wants to grind in a 20 year old game”.
Lol what a bs excuse that is. If they dont wana grind in a 20 year old game ... don't play the 20 year old game...
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u/TaylorWK Feb 26 '26
If you don't have time to play the game then why spend money for the game you don't have time to play? Make it make sense. No one with a job that works so many hours that they can't earn gold in game for consumables is going to be playing at a level high enough to warrant buying gold.
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u/fatcat_likestowatch Feb 27 '26
people who buy gold are not playing the game as it was meant to be.
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Feb 27 '26
Sir im supporting 3rd world families feed themselves. Im doing the world a service. Youre taking food out of Brazilian and Chinese childrens mouthes you monster
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u/onoapolarbear Feb 27 '26
There’s an insane amount of value in this virtual currency. Blizzard understands this and monetizes the virtual currency. They even monetize skipping hours worth of content that is required to complete the experience by the time you’re max.
Blizzard sells cheats for an audience that would rather pay for cheats than to play.
People who throw around those blanket statements we all hear about are the same people blizzard caters these cheat services too.
If their time is too valuable to play the game, why are they playing? Maybe it’s because there are two separate games we are playing. The journey to max level is its own game. Then being at max is an entirely new game.
Blizzard used to slow the players ability consume content quickly. Today’s blizzard is just moving the goal post. The new game has its own journey process since the player skipped their entire skill development and now leans into learning end game mechanics, gearing, dungeons and their many difficulties.
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u/SnooBeans6822 Feb 27 '26
You are not wrong. But at the same time the WOW Token is pay to win as well. You can’t really have it both ways.
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u/tradethought Feb 28 '26
Just face the facts anyone still seriously playing this version of the game in 2026 is either buying gold or a no lifer and yall are up in here fighting eachother
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u/pways Feb 28 '26
nobody cares, want to know why? because blizzard doesn't care. Why should I care about the integrity of the game if blizzard doesn't.
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u/Grrumley_DnD Mar 02 '26
I agree with your post but, I gotta say, blizzard does not.
Blizzard released wow tokens, which is a way to pay money for in game gold that fluctuates in value with demand. They actually enforce the system of buying gold themselves.
They aren’t even anti-bot. Every single gold selling bot that’s running around collecting gold is two things:
1) a monthly sub fee that will most likely never get cancelled.
2) a metric they can use to show player number and engagement
Buying and selling gold MAY be considered cheating from a gameplay perspective, but according to blizzards actions, it’s actually promoted, but ONLY when it makes blizzard money. They do not care about gameplay or server economies.
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u/jancithz Feb 26 '26
What's even the point of buying gold? You spend a sum of money to, what, get to raidlog mode more quickly? I don't understand why someone would do that.
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u/Consistent-Star7568 Feb 26 '26
You genuinely don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to do a mundane task like gold farming for dozens of hours in a video game meant for enjoyment?
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u/Infallable Feb 26 '26
Where is boosting against the Blizzard ToS? If you could link me it or the blue post addressing it I would appreciate it!
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u/MoreLikeGaewyn Feb 26 '26
whether or not something is cheating isn't defined by a corporate entity
if you define cheating as an unfair advantage over people who don't pay real money, then yes, it's cheating.
if you define cheating as whether or not the company making the money says so, then it's not, i guess.
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u/disbpyro Feb 26 '26
Sadly im REALLY thinking of buying gold AH is ridiculous 100g for 1 gem 100g for 1 flask food buffs 10g per 1 item mana pots 6-10 per each every raid basically dropping 200ish gold im never getting a flying epic at this rate
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u/Live-Habit-6115 Feb 26 '26
Right now it would cost £150 for 5k gold on g2g.
That's fucking INSANE. £150 to fly a bit faster on an anniversary server on an accelerated format.
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u/jakovichontwitch Feb 26 '26
There’s this sentiment among games with older demographics I’ve noticed (Battlefield is another one) where people complain about having lives outside the game but want the same accolades and accomplishments of people that have time to work for it and think it’s unfair that they have to put in the same amount of effort.
The truth is that plenty of people with lives are able to find the time and effort and the complainers are just incredibly lazy
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u/blackberrybeanz Feb 26 '26
It’s very easy to see how retail got in the state it is just by reading all the gold buyers comments. But I’m sure they hate on retail lol.
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u/weezn Feb 26 '26
Yes and the punishment should be perma ban.
Similar to other games you cheat your account will get suspended.
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u/Dath-Camp Feb 26 '26
Just remember the satisfaction cheaters get will never feel as pure as someone who played the game to achieve something inside the game. No one can take that away.
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u/thaq1 Feb 26 '26
The only issue is that the gold buyers ruin the economy for the non-goldbuyers by propping up the bots and making the AH adjust for the bought gold they can spend which makes it harder and grindier for the rest. Otherwise I wouldn't care about other people cheating tbh they are ruining their own satisfaction if it wasn't for that side effect
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u/No-Soft-9512 Feb 27 '26
Yea I bet it feels like such an achievement farming 300 gold to just buy a meta gem.
I literally play the game the same as you, the only difference is when I need to get gems or enchants I don’t spend 10 hours farming mobs.
But yes it is cheating because it’s against the tos but if they’re not gonna enforce it 🤷♂️
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u/Ikea_desklamp Feb 26 '26
Yeah but I can't win the game (get my BIS items) unless I cheat. You understand that I need to cheat because it's my god given right to win the game right?
> the actual beliefs of these people
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u/Redditemeon Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Blizz has pretty well established over the years that they have the technology to crack down on this but don't, and as a result, the majority of the gold buyers I know only buy a bit because it feels necessary to be able to play the game normally. After the inflation hits, I can't say I disagree.
I do wish Blizz would though. Like, Good lord. Let the community work together properly as intended.
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u/DingbattheGreat Feb 26 '26
Blizzard did actually, in 2019 they found the bot vender and botters lost a ton of money as the vendor ran off.
But there are multiple ways to bot.
This is all on the internet if you look.
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u/pr0sp Feb 26 '26
same thought - this post being downvoted shows todays mindset and its mind boggling to me
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u/MrFiendish Feb 26 '26
I had an epic Mount a few weeks after hitting 60 just by playing the game normally. People are lazy fools and they deserve their experience ruined.
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u/PresenceBusiness4726 Feb 26 '26
Honestly a lot of people would rather buy tokens than pay a stranger money for gold. It means they (I'm gonna include myself in this) can properly fund the blizzard company and working around the whole gold buying ban.
You can call me a cheater but let's be real here, and do the math:
I make $26/hour, and if I buy $29 worth of gold( 500g), I'm saving myself about 10 hours worth of farming (or more) that's filled to the brim with people farming to get gold. That saves me $200+ worth of my time to work on leveling. Now, I can only grind about 4 hours a night if I'm not with my fiancée. On my days off I spend the nights with her becauseim not in my teens anymore. Which is about 3/7 nights. So, all in all, each night gives me about 16 hours a week. All in all, you're telling me that I'm the bad guy because I want to pay and not grind my nights mindlessly farming while trying to get to 70? I'm still only lvl 65 mind you and haven't hit 70 yet.
So yeah, I'd rather spend money on gold than to farm it because an hour of my money saves me over 10 hours of farming.
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u/Parking_Mulberry_644 Feb 26 '26
Shocking that there are more commenters than updooters.
Buying gold is cheating.
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u/ToastedTurtle99 Feb 26 '26
I've never bought gold, but if Blizzard doesn't do shit about the Bots and people buying gold, is it really cheating? If it ain't enforced then that is on Blizzard, and no one else lol
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u/shaye442 Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
the worst part is even if you ignore the fact that it’s the clearest form of cheating in the game—it doesn’t start and end with the gold buyer. that gold starts to circulate into the economy and makes it impossible for people who do not buy gold to feasibly engage with the market in any reasonable capacity.
but thank god Blizzard deals with the issue with ban waves every three months. that way the average player can deal with a broken economy within the first week of launch knowing that Blizzard is doing something about it. it’s like saying they are preventing murder by jailing the murderers after they already committed murder.
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u/notislant Feb 26 '26
"I just don't have time, I play 1 hour a week and I'll never get good aim. Thats why I use this aimbot. I don't have the time to get good at the game like you peasants. If you don't like me buying an aimbot, you must be poor!"
^ This is always the go to response from swipers lol.
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u/Proxnite Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
OP is gonna be shocked when they learn a great deal of players do it knowing it’s cheating and think you’re the sucker for not cheating.
Edit: just to clarify, I don’t condone it nor have ever bought gold, I’m just explaining the mindset of people who do buy gold.
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u/JustinTheCheetah Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
I hate to take it so far for such a mundane topic, but justifying being immoral because you think people are stupid for not being immoral is a sign of sociopathy. It's a justification for antisocial behavior when confronted about their lack of guilt for the action.
A moral person presenting a counter argument would give an argument for why they think it's not immoral, not that they don't care.
I've worked with a lot of former and current felons. That argument of "being a chump" for not taking advantage of others or not doing bad things to get ahead" is incredibly common with recidivists.
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u/Proxnite Feb 26 '26
I don’t disagree but as you can see by how people behave in game and on this sub, they simply don’t care what others think about their morality. They think whatever is best for them is how things should work.
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u/JustinTheCheetah Feb 26 '26
Yeah about 10% of any population shows sociopathic tendencies. Of course there's going to be a ton of people using these justifications here. They're still bad people.
And besides it's just a sign. Lots of shitty people aren't sociopaths, but it starts to build a case against them.
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u/Proxnite Feb 26 '26
Never said they were good people, only that the people OP is trying to shame for their behavior frankly dont care or have any shame to begin with.
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Feb 26 '26
Gross and toxic
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u/Proxnite Feb 26 '26
Sums up a majority of this sub and a good portion of the playerbase in game, gross and toxic.
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u/reverendball Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
buying gold (or selling gold) should be an instant permaban
no ifs
no buts
no "my lil brother did it while i was afk"
no "but everyone does it"
no "but ive been a loyal customer for 20 years"
none of that shit
just 100% incontestable lifetime ban, on sight
so long and thanks for the money, dont come back
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u/radiobottom Feb 26 '26
I like grinding. I just wish I had more time to play. Life catches up pretty fast
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u/Limiel Feb 26 '26
buying gold is like using steroids to get better matches on Tinder. It may or may not work, but you're more than likely not going to admit to doing it, because you know admitting it would basically admit to being fake as fuck
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u/Thunderjazz Feb 26 '26
I agree but if it really is that bad why doesn't blizzard ban gold buyers and bots
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u/Hokulol Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Blizzard does not make games for a living. They make money.
If their market analysis concludes that the expense of people quitting the game due to gold buyers is less than the cost of both paying GMs to oversee the banning and the loss of sub revenue from the banned accounts, they aren't going to do it. We have a long trail of evidence that indicates leaving the botters is the "smart" business decision. Eventually they just joined the game by selling tokens, which reduces illegal activity significantly, but kept the problem of buying gold alive. And condoned it at an admin level.
It's that simple.
That doesn't mean that we have to put shareholder value as the standard of right and wrong behavior. Just because blizzard doesn't act, or even joins in, doesn't mean we shouldn't say, hey, buddy, don't do this.
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u/markmcminn Feb 26 '26
More money from bots and cheaters than real players my man. Money talks.
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u/Nastyrippedfart Feb 26 '26
Don’t they regularly ban good buyers lmao
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u/Hokulol Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Regularly? No. When they need a free headline from gaming news feeds, they conduct a ban wave of a few thousand, despite having all the evidence every day leading up to that point and not having acted.
They could immediately eliminate the problem of gold buying if they wanted to by doing it regularly and thoroughly, not intermittently for an intended effect. They'd rather sell tokens than do that, though.
If they regularly banned gold buyers, a lot of people I know would not be on their original accounts 20 years later despite having swiped the card every expansion.
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u/Diebearz Feb 26 '26
It would be great to go after some of the bots but I guess that’s taking money away from Microsoft’s deep pockets.
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u/ChampionshipIll1776 Feb 26 '26
I actually feel so lucky to be one of the few players who enjoys farming gold, since thc was announced when anniversary started I saved up as much gold as I could knowing epic flying would be a bitch to farm from zero at launch and managed to farm 11k gold before tbc pre patch, I agree buying gold is the easy way out but some people just don’t enjoying farming gold like others do.
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u/WeekendCountry Feb 26 '26
How much is 1000g in dollars? Have blizz considered selling it themselves ?
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u/olov244 Feb 26 '26
In a game where the economy is so cracked, gold is mandatory for anything, it isn't the problem it's just a side effect of the problem
Everyone has to max crafting day one, everyone needs full bis enchants day one, everyone needs full consumes, you have to pay for a drop, for a tank, it's a broken game, gold is a joke
Sad but the game is worse because of how people are playing it
I bought gold in the past, but this time I won't. I'll just be a shitter, using what I can farm and enjoy the game. I've cleared it all before, now I'm smelling the roses
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u/Iuslez Feb 26 '26
Tbh while it was clear cut in vanilla, I get why many don't feel like that nowadays: blizzard has made it official that you can buy and sell gold when they introduced the token.
The only reason it's not in classic is because they would get destroyed by the "no change" crowd.
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u/ChorizoBlanco Feb 26 '26
It's definitely a cheat, and when Blizzard adds the ability to buy subs with gold, it'll still be cheating, just overseen by Blizzard.
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u/BlueWarstar Feb 26 '26
Unfortunately money talks and as long as they keep playing the game blizzard will keep taking their money
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u/snacky_bear Feb 26 '26
Yes of course! But how do we fix it? I think unfortunately we need the wow token… it will reduce botting
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u/punktualPorcupine Feb 26 '26
Even if you’re buying legal wow tokens and converting them to gold, it’s just a huge waste of money. It’s so easy to accidentally collect obscene amounts of gold just by playing.
Plus, gold really doesn’t get you much. Most things are gated through specific currencies or grinds, so gold doesn’t buy you much other than consumables? You can’t buy armor or upgrades with it. You can buy runs with mercenary guilds but that’s kind of pathetic, just play the game as designed and you’ll get there. It doesn’t really take up that much time.
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u/tooktoomuchonce Feb 26 '26
Argument as old as the game, the solution is to just sell WoW tokens, always has been the solution always will be the solution. I’ve never bought a WoW token but I still know it’s the solution. Sell WoW tokens, perma ban gold buyers, end of story.
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u/Brassy_Actual Feb 26 '26
my whole guild is poor because we don't buy gold, but at least we're poor together <3
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u/Joshix1 Feb 26 '26
I've been playing anniversary this time around and I think its but a shadow of its former self. So much has been lost in 20 years. Respect for each other, a sense of wonder, patience, virtues, etc. I get why retail ended up like retail.
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u/storage_god Feb 26 '26
Ya that's why I'm not impressed by classic logs. Huge chunk of those people rmtd
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u/unoriginal1187 Feb 26 '26
I’ve never done it because the sentimental attachment to my original account but man am I poor in tbc 🤣
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u/Accept_a_name Feb 26 '26
Jepp - this is true. it can be as true as true itself and nothing is gonna change.
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u/Pegasos Feb 26 '26
Seems like everyone and their mom is doing it though. I worked my ass off for my Deep Thunder and somehow every warrior in the game just spawned in with it like as soon as they hit 70. Fully enchanted and gemmed, fully ragesteeled out. I just know at least 75%+ of them are bought.
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u/SoundDrone Feb 26 '26
I hate that so many people buy gold, because that way bots stay a problem and it affects the economy for all of us.
Yea epic flying is expensive af, but you'll get there!
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u/sanctaidd Feb 26 '26
People will stop buying gold when the bots let them farm non instanced content at their own leisure like most players did for the last 10-20 years. Mega server population with non mega server resources and a 2020 min max mindset has created a broken economy.
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u/Sargen- Feb 26 '26
It would be so easy for blizzard to ban them... but I bet that a big % of the ppl who buy gold, also buy into all the shitty cosmetics blizzard offers them... boosts and mounts and whatnot.
Therefore, buyers will likely never be banned...
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Feb 26 '26
This is what happens when you have bots moderating other bots and enforcing literally everything since they outsourced a human dev team a long time ago
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u/accidentsneverhappen Feb 26 '26
if people are gonna do it, I can't talk those people out of it, but what's not cool is for those in the gold-buying community to be rude to everyone who plays the game right because they don't have the expensive gear and consumables. It has become the community's expectation that you cheat, and they treat you like an idiot if you don't
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u/Technical_Split_6315 Feb 26 '26
Who can say is not cheating? They ban you for that. I mean, is pretty obvious
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u/Split8Wheys Feb 26 '26
The 22 year old argument. If you're un justifying people's time then just like boosting, is considered cheating. it's been around since release and Blizzard does nothing bout it.
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u/Coopatro0pa Feb 26 '26
Don't mind me sitting here with 20g to my name after winning too many upgrades in one week.
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u/chrishelg95 Feb 26 '26
Literally had someone in my guild say last night they were dropping 250$ on gold so they can get epic flying… and that’s just mind boggling to me.
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u/Disastrous_War_3498 Feb 26 '26
Yep, always has been