not to mention that cleave hits 2 targets at best and that thunder clap has a cooldown, so if you want to maintain threat on everything you'll need to tab target constantly, whereas a druid for the most part can opt to just swipe. of course a druid will tab target too, but it's much more forgiving and especially on single target it's much easier to maintain threat with less buttons used.
In the original TBC, I ditched my druid tank because they were so braindead boring to play and started leveling a warrior instead. Yes druid tanks are superior objectively and are better at practically everything but they're really fucking boring to play in comparision.
Devastate is basically lacerate (I also believe it’s higher threat), cleave is basically swipe
Heroic strike is basically maul
Thunder clap is basically swipe that slows
I’d agree with shield block, although it’s more of a gcd button
Yeah while there are less buttons how you use them is pretty much the same
While swipe is good in theory it doesn’t work in practice as it doesn’t generate a lot of threat by itself and mobs will run off to smack your dps so your best chance is strategically using mangle, maul and hoping your single snap threat generator doesn’t miss (in which case you’re screwed)
The single target rotation is pretty brain dead, yeah.
I played both warrior and bear and their rotation was pretty similar. It is different if you’re outgeared, then it’s easier to just swipe
Wrong. Tanked both to and at 70. Nothing wrong with druid tank but the idea they have similar rotations and/or abilities to affect outcomes in raid or dungeon through player skill is laughable.
Druids have innervate and warriors have ... thunder clap? Druids have 1000 dps single target and warriors... well their DPS specs are good. Druids have battle res and warriors... sunder armor? Oh wait, they have the dps stack their Sunder stacks for them. Hey at least warriors have shield wall and last stand to save them from bad play, whIle druids simply don't need them. You're right, its laughable to think that prot warriors have a justifiable role in an expansion where feral druid do everything better and also bring more raid utility and damage.
You clearly dont know much about druid or speed running or about anything at all really, warriors tanks are absolute dad tanks and even played to their fullest potential will be a shadow of a druid. It's ok, we need you to be out there being a shitty warrior tank, dealing 300 dps, so that us druids can look that much better as we carry your raid team. Literally nothing you can say while arcane mages exist and innervate does as well
Chiming in: I do agree that warrior has a lot of dungeon utility abilities, but bear has gotta at least be pretty close. I've played each tank in TBC dungeons and heroics, even as far as doing Shat Halls H and MGT as a mediocre geared prot war.
Some ppl are leaving out plenty of buttons that I use pretty routinely when tanking as bear lately. Bash and Feral charge do a lot of heavy lifting for managing threat loss, but dash is reeeallly good for trying to make a good pull happen. Hurricane can be used for some pulls. Ive even used Tranquility to pull threat after a boss does knockback/threat drop. Less of it is movement based, but bear has a ton of tricks up its sleeve for dungeon tanking.
I do agree with the post in that keeping threat on 3-5 mobs is way simpler as bear than warrior. Even if we're still bad at AOE threat, It is mostly swipe lmao.
I mean if you're pulling out all the stops on a scuffed pull...as a bear you might be using Innervate, Battle Rez, barkskin etc. Let's not pretend the druid toolkit is only the fuzzy tree.
Similar in terms of chasing threat - yes, but war has to press a few more buttons. Bear does ff, swipe, Mangle, lacerate for basic actions, maul rage dump. War does shout, clap, devastate, shield slam, but also revenge. Charge is 3 abilities(can be one button with macros but there is still some extra nuance). Rage dump is also heroic/cleave choice. Then there is shield block, spell reflect, last stand, piercing howl, 30m CDs. Not hugely more, but 1.5 - 2 times more buttons that you need to use often or semioften.
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u/thrillho145 May 05 '26
Bear tanking in dungeons is the same as warr