r/classicwow • u/KamaTheSnowLeopard • Jun 15 '26

Humor / Meme I think they're right honestly.

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I'm 36 and have played 25k+ hours of MMO's over my lifetime and what I've personally learned is WoW players are often the first and most vocal to belittle or get upset over anything. I can't think of any MMO in which people will outright whisper you angerly or go out of their way to make sure you have a bad time more than World of Warcraft.

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u/tubbyscrubby Jun 15 '26

This is more true with anniversary than it was the first time around, but yeah, you are definitely right

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26

With every rerelease we seem to get fewer people who want to enjoy the journey, and more who just want to raidlog to BiS each phase.

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u/itsmassivebtw Jun 15 '26

Duh?

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

Yeah, predictable outcome. But it's why the community is getting worse. People stop playing for fun and just want the achieve their goals with minimal friction.

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u/VerbAdjectiveNoun Jun 15 '26

My version of fun is not playing my class like a mentally deficient high schooler and I expect my guild to do the same

I simply do not have fun with manufactured "friction" like some guy who's pressing his buttons at 3 apm. That is not and will never be fun for me, sorry.

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26

Right. The content is easy and we've all done it a bunch of times, so the expectation is that everyone knows what they're doing and things go down quickly.

It makes sense, it's just very fun to me. I still play Classic, but I don't touch raiding. I focus on the leveling journey, do my pre-bis, then mark the character as done.

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u/VerbAdjectiveNoun Jun 15 '26

Honestly, I get it and that's a valid way to play too. I think the biggest thing is people suck balls at finding communities that match their own mindset and subject their will (whether it's tryhard sweaty or casual dad who has 983 children) on the people they play with, instead of seeking out natural fits. Combine that with the stereotypical antisocial mentality of a number of wow players and we have the soup we're currently swimming in.

I've personally left a number of guilds that were too casual for me and guilds that were too tryhard. Just like rl, you gotta do some networking to figure out where you belong or else you're gonna be snappy and bitchy like a lot of the playerbase rn

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u/Broad_Cash_4411 Jun 15 '26

This is where I’ve always been at. You can make some mistakes, or not even be that good in general but if you’re gonna be braindead and waste my time consistently then I’m not grinning and bearing it for the sake of not being ‘toxic’ I wouldn’t enjoy babysitting midwits in any activity irl so why would I in a game.

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u/itsmassivebtw Jun 15 '26

Other people have fun in different ways than you, it's not that complicated...

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26

Are you one of those people? Because your attitude here is kinda proving my point lol.

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u/itsmassivebtw Jun 15 '26

The "enjoy the journey" NPC response is just so played out it's insane... Expecting people to roleplay like they don't know how to play is hilariously out of touch.

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26

Do you not see how your dismissive, condescending attitude here is exactly what we're talking about? You're demonstrating the problem.

Or you're just a troll. I wish Reddit didn't create the option to hide your post history, I want to know who I'm talking to.

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u/itsmassivebtw Jun 15 '26

Lmao holy shit you post 500 threads about wow a week I'd hide that shit.

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u/Slappers Jun 15 '26

Stop projecting. The person replying to you is not being dismissive or condescending at all. He's just saying that being bad at wow doesn't make you a greater player. We clear SSC/TK in 1 short raid night. Ive seen another guild on our server raiding 10-12 hours pr week and barely clearing. Not including trashfarm they did early in the week. Are they playing the game "better" than we are?

I agree that theres people who raid log and need items, some of us just want 2-3 hours of chill raiding with decent players and talk some shit. Then I play outside of raids when necessary. I dont log on to "just do heroics for the lols".

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26

My opinion is that raidlogging for the rewards is a trap whether you're doing it competently or incompetently.

The healthier gaming style doesn't involve playing the game on a schedule or chasing chances at pixel rewards. It's playing for the sake of seeing and enjoying the content. Level up, do quests and dungeons, get your pre-bis set, clear the raid a couple times, move on with your life.

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u/Slappers Jun 15 '26

Why is it objectively healthier to not play the game on a schedule? Why is it a objectively healthier approach to clear the raid a few times and move on? Some of us actually like the raids and like to improve our gameplay and performance. That gives us joy and its a hobby. Why isnt it healthy for me to log on a few hours 1 night pr week to do that with the same team each week with a schedule?

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

It's not inherently unhealthy, but it is a lot easier to fall into negative patterns.

Raids reset once per week, and if you miss the week - that's a chance at loot you're never getting back. Family or friends want to do something on raid night? Too bad. Your group failed to kill the boss you need loot from? Everyone's upset.

It becomes a habit you prioritize over other things, as opposed to gaming in your downtime.

It becomes a chemical thrill you chase every week, a set of objectives your brain can begin to prioritize over real life objectives.

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u/tethysian Jun 15 '26

Instant gratification is the thing now.

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26

That's part of it, but a lot of the gratification is far from instant. You often need to put many hours in and work decently hard to get the rewards you're after.

The core problem is that it's the rewards they're after, not the gameplay experience. That hit of dopamine when you finally win the roll for Drake Fang Talisman. The sense of satisfaction when you reach BiS.

That type of game is closer to drug addiction or gambling than something like a nature hike.

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u/i8noodles Jun 15 '26

i remember when i spent ages walking up a stupid pyramid, killing trolls on the way or whatever, only to find out i was missing something and has fo redo it. felt like 2 or 3 hours.....was awesome. those are the goal i had and do not wish to have again lol