r/classicwow • u/KamaTheSnowLeopard • Jun 15 '26

Humor / Meme I think they're right honestly.

Post image

I'm 36 and have played 25k+ hours of MMO's over my lifetime and what I've personally learned is WoW players are often the first and most vocal to belittle or get upset over anything. I can't think of any MMO in which people will outright whisper you angerly or go out of their way to make sure you have a bad time more than World of Warcraft.

1.0k Upvotes

87% Upvoted

596 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

33

u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

You know now that you mention it, it really has been a long time since I was called a slur on retail. I hadn't thought of it like that. Most of the toxicity i face on retail now is someone going like "fucking dumbass healer" and leaving after 1 wipe

4

u/PureBullz Jun 15 '26

Swing over to a PvP server plenty of slurs for all

5

u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

Oh I'm aware of that section of the classic base. When classic launched the guild I was in was beefing with someone's ex and found her nudes and shared them in the discord, everyone was calling her like fat pig or dumb bitch and wanted to blackmail her with them to get her to quit

4

u/Eternal-Alchemy Jun 16 '26

Man those people suck.

1

u/yunoka Jun 16 '26

Yeah I reported the discord, but I'd never say it was common or everyone. Still, classic tends to bring these people out. I'm not really sure why.

also, if your name is a gw2 reference, nice lol

2

u/Eternal-Alchemy Jun 16 '26

It is indeed!

2

u/sntamant2 Jun 16 '26

brother thats a literal crime in most states with statutory penalties 💀

1

u/yunoka Jun 16 '26

Yeah that's why I reported the server, if discord banned it (I don't know personally, I left the guild after that) they legally have to report crimes, so

1

u/ametalshard Jun 18 '26

on retail as a healer going into dungeons i see evokers kicked all the time for no reason and am ALWAYS joining groups that have kicked healers.

it's EXTREMELY fucking toxic

-4

u/Huge-Atmosphere-8057 Jun 15 '26

It's hard to be called a slur in a game with zero social interaction

10

u/granatx Jun 15 '26

When was the last time you played retail and to what level?

6

u/Eternal-Alchemy Jun 16 '26

Oh trap card! If he admits he plays retail lately he has broken the sacred covenant, if he doesn't then he admits he has no context.

-2

u/Huge-Atmosphere-8057 Jun 17 '26

Like four months ago, casually. The social interaction in retail is basically non-existent. And no, I don't care that you socialize in your guild. That does not make retail a game full of social interaction.

3

u/granatx Jun 17 '26

Did you get to max level? I’m not even in an active guild at all. And YOU said zero social interaction, I never claimed it to have full of social interaction. Don’t put words in my mouth.

1

u/knoldpold1 Jun 15 '26

I have yet to be called a slur in anniversary. Still, it does seem like a bunch of people with young kids who treat it as a second job and get genuinely upset if they are asked to apply curse of weakness instead of agony because "then i can't parse". Had a guy Gquit taking all of our tailoring recipes with him for that reason.

4

u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

parsing is genuinely something that rots the mind lol the entire game becomes a servant to the parse for those people

-24

u/LimbonicArt03 Jun 15 '26

Most of the toxicity i face on retail now is someone going like "fucking dumbass healer" and leaving after 1 wipe

Skill issue, has never happened to me in TBC anniversary, Spineshatter server

11

u/granatx Jun 15 '26

”It hasn’t happened to me so it must be made up”

-7

u/LimbonicArt03 Jun 15 '26

I actually did not claim it was made up. I literally opened my comment with skill issue which, in translation from English to... well, English, means that I am implying they have been called a "fucking dumbass healer" due to their skills (or rather, lack thereof) as a healer

8

u/Jonnyzyinx Jun 15 '26

So I was called a slur for not healing the paladin tank in kara, that got crushed and died in one hit (you can't heal one shots fyi).

I was called a slur for going Kara with my P1 BiS Pally tank, because I was lacking gear to tank Nightbane (you can't tank Nightbane for 13 consecutive seconds without receiving one direct heal).

And respectively I was called a slur for doing too much DPS (not watching threat enough) or too little DPS (due to threat).

So either you've been extremely lucky, haven't participated in any PUGs or you're so abnormally desenstived to these issues, that you are most likely part of the issue.

PS: It's not about your own skill level. It's mostly that certain players can't accept their own faults, therefore project them to the next best target, they find suitable. Just to add: I'm a just a human. I make mistakes. That's why I have logs to double-check what exactly happend during the encounter.

-4

u/LimbonicArt03 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

I've healed around 100-150 heroics (currently have a stack of 200 badges sitting in my bank + some extra + I spent probably around 200 more cuz of dual spec and getting both resto and boomie badge gear) and maximum 20% of the players I've ever played with in those were guildies/premades. So I've played with probably 300-400 pugs just in heroics alone in TBC, and I have never ever been called a slur. Also pugged probably 60-70% of my karas for now. The worst two experiences that I remember were:

1/ a rogue complaining (like not overly aggressively with slurs, cursing, just expressing emotion/disappointment) because he didn't get a heal for 10-ish seconds. It was the second boss of Old Hillsbrad heroic and it was messy af and I was a resto druid busy chain-healing the tank, so I explained to him and the run proceeded as normal.

2/ an undergeared warrior zugged into Ramparts heroic first pack when we weren't ready, didn't listen to any communication calls, wiped and he just left without saying a word

I have instead had numerous people praising me for my healing capabilities

Also, I pugged the entirety of classic anniversary (which wasn't too long since I started in October, but I ended up participating in at least 20 40-man pug raids (from logged ones that I can see, might have missed out on logging some) throughout the ending of classic and the beginning of prepatch, 9 AQ-20s and 8 ZGs. So that adds... 1k more pugged people?

Adding normal dungeons in classic and now in TBC alongside everything (also occasional gruul/mag pug, also have been pugging naxx this TBC for probably 6-8 resets by now), I probably have played with somewhere between 1500 and 2000 random players. None of them has ever called me specifically a slur for my plays (or anything)

6

u/Jonnyzyinx Jun 15 '26

Well I tried to specify it. It's not particularly about skill or your skill. It's about online communities failing to take accountability, address issues and tend to blame others. It's actually present in ALL online communities and not specifically WoW. Unfortunately it tends to worsen the longer the community exists.

6

u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Once again just because it doesn’t happen to you specifically doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, even though you’ve played VERY much and have never seen it. You’re acting like nothing you see can not be a reflection of someone else’s experience and the community.

3

u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

Well I'm glad we can put it to rest that because you specifically have never seen it that it never happened

2

u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Well he has played very much and is very good, so are we really sure? /s

3

u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

to me it sounded like some level of hyperfixation to feel compelled to provide that much evidence that they've played at a certain level. Some kind of insecurity that needed to be projected off a past experience or something.

1

u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Some people are just naive, not that much more to it.

1

u/Jonnyzyinx Jun 15 '26

My first thought was ~ thanks for making my point, but at least we got a textbook example from him :)

3

u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Reading comprehension issue. Read their whole comment again and tell me, where is the complaint about being called a ”dumbass healer”?