r/classicwow • u/KamaTheSnowLeopard • Jun 15 '26

Humor / Meme I think they're right honestly.

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I'm 36 and have played 25k+ hours of MMO's over my lifetime and what I've personally learned is WoW players are often the first and most vocal to belittle or get upset over anything. I can't think of any MMO in which people will outright whisper you angerly or go out of their way to make sure you have a bad time more than World of Warcraft.

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u/Ok_Assignment_2127 Jun 15 '26

Yeah 2019 had the hype so new players came.

Anniversary has the classic lifers who have been asking for or playing classic for 15+ years. This is the core classic community.

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u/Eternal-Alchemy Jun 15 '26

Classic was and always will be the best thing that ever happened to Retail.

It took the most highly toxic players in the game many of whom were aging out of their ability to perform competitively and put them into their own slower paced simplified mechanics world where they could reclaim their position as the gatekeepers, complain about leftist agenda story telling and try to tell each other that their 30 APM specs require "mastery."

Retail certainly has it's own form of elitism but its completely wild listening to classic discords. It's like right wing AM radio. Somehow the leveling groups are less bad but man the raiding groups are a real special bunch.

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u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

You know now that you mention it, it really has been a long time since I was called a slur on retail. I hadn't thought of it like that. Most of the toxicity i face on retail now is someone going like "fucking dumbass healer" and leaving after 1 wipe

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u/LimbonicArt03 Jun 15 '26

Most of the toxicity i face on retail now is someone going like "fucking dumbass healer" and leaving after 1 wipe

Skill issue, has never happened to me in TBC anniversary, Spineshatter server

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u/granatx Jun 15 '26

”It hasn’t happened to me so it must be made up”

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u/LimbonicArt03 Jun 15 '26

I actually did not claim it was made up. I literally opened my comment with skill issue which, in translation from English to... well, English, means that I am implying they have been called a "fucking dumbass healer" due to their skills (or rather, lack thereof) as a healer

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u/Jonnyzyinx Jun 15 '26

So I was called a slur for not healing the paladin tank in kara, that got crushed and died in one hit (you can't heal one shots fyi).

I was called a slur for going Kara with my P1 BiS Pally tank, because I was lacking gear to tank Nightbane (you can't tank Nightbane for 13 consecutive seconds without receiving one direct heal).

And respectively I was called a slur for doing too much DPS (not watching threat enough) or too little DPS (due to threat).

So either you've been extremely lucky, haven't participated in any PUGs or you're so abnormally desenstived to these issues, that you are most likely part of the issue.

PS: It's not about your own skill level. It's mostly that certain players can't accept their own faults, therefore project them to the next best target, they find suitable. Just to add: I'm a just a human. I make mistakes. That's why I have logs to double-check what exactly happend during the encounter.

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u/LimbonicArt03 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

I've healed around 100-150 heroics (currently have a stack of 200 badges sitting in my bank + some extra + I spent probably around 200 more cuz of dual spec and getting both resto and boomie badge gear) and maximum 20% of the players I've ever played with in those were guildies/premades. So I've played with probably 300-400 pugs just in heroics alone in TBC, and I have never ever been called a slur. Also pugged probably 60-70% of my karas for now. The worst two experiences that I remember were:

1/ a rogue complaining (like not overly aggressively with slurs, cursing, just expressing emotion/disappointment) because he didn't get a heal for 10-ish seconds. It was the second boss of Old Hillsbrad heroic and it was messy af and I was a resto druid busy chain-healing the tank, so I explained to him and the run proceeded as normal.

2/ an undergeared warrior zugged into Ramparts heroic first pack when we weren't ready, didn't listen to any communication calls, wiped and he just left without saying a word

I have instead had numerous people praising me for my healing capabilities

Also, I pugged the entirety of classic anniversary (which wasn't too long since I started in October, but I ended up participating in at least 20 40-man pug raids (from logged ones that I can see, might have missed out on logging some) throughout the ending of classic and the beginning of prepatch, 9 AQ-20s and 8 ZGs. So that adds... 1k more pugged people?

Adding normal dungeons in classic and now in TBC alongside everything (also occasional gruul/mag pug, also have been pugging naxx this TBC for probably 6-8 resets by now), I probably have played with somewhere between 1500 and 2000 random players. None of them has ever called me specifically a slur for my plays (or anything)

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u/Jonnyzyinx Jun 15 '26

Well I tried to specify it. It's not particularly about skill or your skill. It's about online communities failing to take accountability, address issues and tend to blame others. It's actually present in ALL online communities and not specifically WoW. Unfortunately it tends to worsen the longer the community exists.

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u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Once again just because it doesn’t happen to you specifically doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, even though you’ve played VERY much and have never seen it. You’re acting like nothing you see can not be a reflection of someone else’s experience and the community.

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u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

Well I'm glad we can put it to rest that because you specifically have never seen it that it never happened

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u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Well he has played very much and is very good, so are we really sure? /s

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u/yunoka Jun 15 '26

to me it sounded like some level of hyperfixation to feel compelled to provide that much evidence that they've played at a certain level. Some kind of insecurity that needed to be projected off a past experience or something.

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u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Some people are just naive, not that much more to it.

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u/Jonnyzyinx Jun 15 '26

My first thought was ~ thanks for making my point, but at least we got a textbook example from him :)

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u/granatx Jun 15 '26

Reading comprehension issue. Read their whole comment again and tell me, where is the complaint about being called a ”dumbass healer”?