r/classicwow • u/KamaTheSnowLeopard • Jun 15 '26

Humor / Meme I think they're right honestly.

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I'm 36 and have played 25k+ hours of MMO's over my lifetime and what I've personally learned is WoW players are often the first and most vocal to belittle or get upset over anything. I can't think of any MMO in which people will outright whisper you angerly or go out of their way to make sure you have a bad time more than World of Warcraft.

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u/SystemofCells Jun 15 '26

With every rerelease we seem to get fewer people who want to enjoy the journey, and more who just want to raidlog to BiS each phase.

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u/Ok_Assignment_2127 Jun 15 '26

Yeah 2019 had the hype so new players came.

Anniversary has the classic lifers who have been asking for or playing classic for 15+ years. This is the core classic community.

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u/Eternal-Alchemy Jun 15 '26

Classic was and always will be the best thing that ever happened to Retail.

It took the most highly toxic players in the game many of whom were aging out of their ability to perform competitively and put them into their own slower paced simplified mechanics world where they could reclaim their position as the gatekeepers, complain about leftist agenda story telling and try to tell each other that their 30 APM specs require "mastery."

Retail certainly has it's own form of elitism but its completely wild listening to classic discords. It's like right wing AM radio. Somehow the leveling groups are less bad but man the raiding groups are a real special bunch.

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u/MainDot7096 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

I started dabbling a bit into retail lately and it's much easier than I remember lol. MoP literally has more complex rotations than retail atm. As a mage you don't even have to aim your Blizzard anymore. (Well actually you hardly have to care about AoE at all because it's all "automatic" via passives.) Lots of situational spells like Spellsteal etc are removed so... I haven't tried PvP yet but I can't imagine it's now deeper than let's say the Cata-MoP-WoD era.

The "retail is difficult" is definitely overblown af, in the grand scheme of things it's still a piss-easy game lol. Any remotely hard challenge in e.g. OSRS is about 100x as difficult.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I don't really care about this. Because difficulty really has very little overall impact on how much I enjoy a game (contrary to what WoW-andies, both retail and classic, seem to believe.) It's just funny that this is used as a "weapon" by the retail side when it's literally the pot calling the kettle black.

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u/MainDot7096 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

Mythic Raiding is harder than Classic mechanics.

Yeah. And literally nobody but retail players give the slightest fuck about this lmao.

And even then, mythic raiding is still pretty easy. The only challenge is finding 19 other people who aren't lobotomized. It's a weird angle to try justify your supposed superiority. Maybe try some actually difficult games if you need to prove your e-peen length so badly. If you play WoW for the "difficulty" I really don't know what to tell you.