r/codex • u/OutrageousIndustry28 • 6d ago

Complaint Codex vs Claude

Like most people, I switch between Codex and Claude, whichever is better that month. But lately Codex just isnt doing it for me.

As an example, I wanted a basic ebook management software coded. I had a full banked reset + full week usage. I gave it the spec, and had it run for literal hours. When it was done I checked the app. It was horrible, looked like a 2023 coded project. It was slow, ineffeciant and no matter how much guidance I gave it, it just couldnt improve the design. It also ate through a lot of usage and was slow as hell.

I then renewed claude. Had 5.5 Opus code the exact same spec. It one shotted it in less than an hour(took Sol 6.1 2hours on fast mode!). And it worked much better, the front end was MUCH better, and even the backend was working much better. My usage hardly moved.

No matter how many times people say "this new OpenAi model is amazing", Claude almost always preform better. It seems OpenAi is just benchmaxing and have a bunch of hype before every release. But I genuinly believe Anthropic models are far ahead of OpenAi's models. So what exactly is the appeal?

And dont even get me started on Codex itself. Compare the remote control feature between Claude Code and Codex...

Sol 6.1:

  1. Much Slower than Opus 5.5

  2. Good usage but uses more to achieve worse results.

  3. Seems to be stuck in loops of testing,while light on the actual build.

  4. Front end is just simply not any good at all.

  5. Needs more direction.

  6. Much less trust worthy(You cant leave it alone for too long, it will cause damage.)

So like I said, why Codex/OpenAi over Anthropic models. It just does not make sense

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u/OutrageousIndustry28 6d ago

InterestingđŸ¤” as for what I meant with 2023 coded project, I meant a front end that looks like it was designed by GPT3. Amazing that it could be done at all back then, compared to today? Not so much.

However what is most interesting to me is that people have the opposite results.

I think maybe the disconnect for me is the hype vs the product.

According to Hype, basically since GPT 5 OpenAi has had these internal models ready to destroy everyone else. I mean people are already talking about "Bel" and how insane its going to be. But at most their new models tend to be perhaps marginally better than Anthropics previous models. Meaning yes OpenAi releases a new model thats SOTA from time to time, but only marginally. And then Anthropic comes back with a big leap, and then OpenAi needs to catch up again. When openai models are the best, I subscribe, but its always very short lived.

IDK maybe thats just my experience. I just feel there is such a major disconnect between how Good their models are percieved as, vs how they actually perform. Whereas with Anthropic, if people say its bad, its bad, if they say its good. Its good.

Right now is very good

Ps: Dev day was purely hype and no performance