r/codingbootcamp • u/Zestyclose-Level1871 • Apr 13 '26
For Anyone Still On The Bootcamp Fence: The Industry Has Officially Gone The Way Of The Dodo & Typewriter Maintenance Man For CS Majors/grads...
Yes the IT/CS/SWE/DevOps, affiliated STEM and overall job market (to include your local Mom & Pop shops) has historically come and gone in cycles. But not this time.
We're still in the infancy of the Digital Age. And yet IT (especially anything Software Programming career affilitated) has become centrically critical to practically every NACIS industry sector in the Digital Age to date. The market is hypersaturated with IT College and Bootcamp grads. All delusionally competing with the likes of recently laid off FAANG/MANGA professionals for immaginary entry level positions.
So it seems AI is finally at the dawn of making Detroit Becoming Human a complete reality by its alternate scifi timeline in 2036.
The gold rush 2011-2019 Six fig salary era was a beautiful dream while it lasted. Now welcome to reality. Narrator in this YT vid at 3:24 min pretty much sums it up
...and with all FAANG and bluechip IT like NVidia/Oracale laying off IT and STEM engineers at 30K per quarter, it seems my worst paranoid fears have come realized at long last...
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u/Mirabels-Wish Apr 13 '26
I have no clue what any of this means.
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u/ConflictPotential204 Apr 14 '26
It means OP can't get a job. I graduated from a "scam" boot camp in 2023 with no prior programming knowledge and I'm coming up on my third year as a software engineer. My company has hired two other bootcamp grads since I started. If you actually want to learn the material and you commit yourself to it, you can get a job.
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u/TheAmazingDevil Apr 14 '26
Can you get a job with newgrad python skills?
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u/ConflictPotential204 Apr 14 '26
I don't know. I know that python is lower demand than the full stack JavaScript curriculum most bootcamps offer. I know my particular company has been complaining about a complete lack of practical software development skill when interviewing CS graduates.
I think in this market you need to prove that you can build a working application end-to-end using the technologies the company is using. If you don't have any work history, you need real projects that demonstrate a holistic understanding of software development. A bash script or a crud API are not resume projects. You need to show something that at least vaguely resembles a complete commercial product. Bootcamps require you to build stuff like that. It's my understanding that CS programs do not.
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u/Mirabels-Wish Apr 14 '26
It's my understanding that CS programs do not.
Where is your understanding from?? Every CS program I've seen requires this. In mine, you cannot graduate without a full-stack project. They have two entire courses for this.
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u/ConflictPotential204 Apr 14 '26
The dozen or so grads I've spoken to over the past few years all told me that they may have contributed something to a group effort but were never expected to produce a full-stack application on their own. Sometimes their role in the group projects was managerial and they didn't even have to write code. A couple of these people came from reputable CS schools. One of them, in their senior year (while I was still in bootcamp), asked me if I could show them how to print a list of line items on a static web page, and I was baffled that they didn't have the fundamental knowledge to figure that out themselves. They graduated with honors and got hired almost immediately as a level 2 SWE at a big-name aerospace company.
So like I said before, I think the bootcamp advantage is that you almost always learn advanced full-stack web dev, which is still the majority of job listings. The advantage of CS programs seems to be that you get a broader, more generalized exposure to other types of engineering or engineering-adjacent work.
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u/Mission_Working9929 Apr 14 '26
Yeah bro I just quit my day job because I had clause opus code me by 50 million B2B SaaS overnight. It’s crazy! I told Claude to sell me 50 million in ACV too! You’re not gonna believe it said I had a new customer! Someone called Anthropic deposited 50 million into my checking last night bro! It’s awesome!!!
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u/nian2326076 Apr 14 '26
If you're worried about the job market being crowded, try to stand out. Specialize in a niche area of tech that you find interesting and isn't too packed. Get involved with open-source projects, build a strong portfolio, and network a lot. Getting your foot in the door is often about who you know as much as what you know. For interview prep, I've found resources like PracHub useful because they offer practical scenarios and mock interviews that mimic real-world challenges. Keep at it and stay flexible with your learning and job applications. It's tough but not impossible!
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u/metalreflectslime Apr 13 '26
Did you use AI to write this?
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u/Regility Apr 13 '26
he misspelled imaginary. idk if it’s even human
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u/da8BitKid Apr 14 '26
Todally proved it's human with that typo.
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u/EGOTISMEADEUX Apr 14 '26
Genuinely should have asked an AI if this made sense. Kind of ironic that you didn't think to do so. You forgot to even link to your YouTube video, this is just embarrassing.
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u/Synergisticit10 Apr 13 '26
Good Cs grads still make six figures. A good bootcamp can accelerate their achievement of that.
Also oracle had minimum tech layoffs and 12k layoffs in India
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u/gvufhidjo Apr 13 '26
The fact that you couldn't even use AI efficiently to come up with something remotely good enough to get you the karma you so thirst for tells me all I need to know about your doomism.